49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Well - yes - what you get in terms of having more skill players is needing less O-line talent. *However* that is going to take up a lot of cap space. Kittle, Deebo, and CMC are probably being paid 15+ million a year each (I Defer to AB81 on this), a top tier O-line might be more cap friendly.

An OLine with two McKivitz on the outside OTs and three Banks on the inside, and Ronnie Bell, Dwelly, Mason, Ray Ray, Jauan Jennings (at the skill positions) - might be more sustainable from a cap perspective than Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juszczyk and CMC all together (for example).

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
-See guys I was right, it's the OL fault they lost..,..
-No no no, I never said it's just the OL fault, it's everything, except the QB, you have reading comprehension issues
-no I've always said you need both guys and it's totally on the QB also, you have reading comprehension issues
-see guys I've never been wrong on this OL subject and am right, it's the OL.

full circle 🤣

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's better. Stick to your humor!

i mean, you aren't saying anything.. just repeating how wrong your are.

Wrong is something I haven't been on on this topic...for years! You? You've died on that hill for years. But that's OK. It's like a Christmas gift that just keeps on giving!

if you weren't wrong you would have more people backing you than ridicule you.. what, you got 4f6 and 9moon backing you on this.. that's quite the brain trust there lol

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Really? Brady made a career out of playing with weak, often injured no name receivers behind really good lines. That's not minimizing the importance of skill positions esp. ones like our that are designed for YAC on passes under 2.5s. Besides, how are you getting the ball to great skill positions if you're on your back and can't run? #Madden

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Well - yes - what you get in terms of having more skill players is needing less O-line talent. *However* that is going to take up a lot of cap space. Kittle, Deebo, and CMC are probably being paid 15+ million a year each (I Defer to AB81 on this), a top tier O-line might be more cap friendly.

An OLine with two McKivitz on the outside OTs and three Banks on the inside, and Ronnie Bell, Dwelly, Mason, Ray Ray, Jauan Jennings (at the skill positions) - might be more sustainable from a cap perspective than Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juszczyk and CMC all together (for example).

top players paid in any position is going to take up cap space, but who would take a top paid OL vs a top paid skill player

Cap friendly OL that is above avg is what we have now, and you see the results of having a better team all around. You don't need the best OL

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Really? Brady made a career out of playing with weak, often injured no name receivers behind really good lines. That's not minimizing the importance of skill positions esp. ones like our that are designed for YAC on passes under 2.5s. Besides, how are you getting the ball to great skill positions if you're on your back and can't run? #Madden

is that's what happening to our team right now.. on our back and can't run lol

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Well - yes - what you get in terms of having more skill players is needing less O-line talent. *However* that is going to take up a lot of cap space. Kittle, Deebo, and CMC are probably being paid 15+ million a year each (I Defer to AB81 on this), a top tier O-line might be more cap friendly.

An OLine with two McKivitz on the outside OTs and three Banks on the inside, and Ronnie Bell, Dwelly, Mason, Ray Ray, Jauan Jennings (at the skill positions) - might be more sustainable from a cap perspective than Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juszczyk and CMC all together (for example).

top players paid in any position is going to take up cap space, but who would take a top paid OL vs a top paid skill player

Cap friendly OL that is above avg is what we have now, and you see the results of having a better team all around. You don't need the best OL

But you need the best skill positions? Is that your best combination? Top tier QB + Skill positions? #Madden

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's better. Stick to your humor!

i mean, you aren't saying anything.. just repeating how wrong your are.

Wrong is something I haven't been on on this topic...for years! You? You've died on that hill for years. But that's OK. It's like a Christmas gift that just keeps on giving!

if you weren't wrong you would have more people backing you than ridicule you.. what, you got 4f6 and 9moon backing you on this.. that's quite the brain trust there lol

LOL. Hoov, Random, All, Gore??? That's an all star cast of incite, stalkers.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Really? Brady made a career out of playing with weak, often injured no name receivers behind really good lines. That's not minimizing the importance of skill positions esp. ones like our that are designed for YAC on passes under 2.5s. Besides, how are you getting the ball to great skill positions if you're on your back and can't run? #Madden

is that's what happening to our team right now.. on our back and can't run lol

No, we have a top 5 OL ANNNNNND top skill positions. Plus this cool little thing called an MVP QB.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So now top 5 is ok? Thought you needed tier 1 elite 2 OL.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I haven't said a thing about the rankings other than I could see why they have it ranked that way this week. You and 2 others have an issue with it yet never have a thing to add about why you object to it. Odd stance esp. for units in tier 1 or 2.

If only team football were that simple in the real world. Per usual, you see no other factor in an outcome. Sad. There's so much more to football esp. here where the QB has the least passing attempts in the league.

As opposed to using one dudes ranking as the determination on whether a SB can be won or lost?

If it was all about team football you wouldn't have made your bet. You did it because you believe the O line and the O line alone will be what costs this team.

Brocks play will be the main factor. Not the only factor but the main one. Elite QB play is needed THE MOST. Elite o line play is a nice to have but not essential.

You mean subject matter experts? And proven end results after 7 straight years? Yeah, sorry if in don't pivot to you and All for best combination odds.

Nope, QB + OL in combination. That's the difference. At the time of the bet, the OL was the biggest question mark on the team and we were still learning about Brock. Nobody expected him to turn into an MVP candidate nor the OL being considered in the top five by SME's this late in the season. That's incredible. We should be celebrating that. Instead, it's just another no-argument, no POV.

History shows you need both. You can't be an elite QB if your OL is s**tting the bed. That combination is critical if you want to win a SuperBowl. That's football. But yes, Brock is the most critical piece. But make no mistake about it, the OL can undo him too, no matter how great he is. Let's hope that's not the case this year.

If no SME considered how well they would be, maybe they aren't SMEs

history shows you need a good QB and good enough OL, not the best OL

I'll just add the receivers are important. If you have a good QB, good OLine but only one or two receivers, the OLine has to pass protect longer to give the fewer recivers more time to get open (example:double moves).

Because the 49ers have so many weapons, multiple recivers are open on any given play. That helps the offensive line and the OLine stats. So as long as the 49ers OLine can give Brock a good solid 2.5 seconds, with his multiple offensive weapons - he's good. On another team, same OLine, and only one or two recivers, I'm betting not so good.

So the OLine (I still think) is still a couple of steps below the top, but still its an impressive run blocking OLine. McCaffrey isn't a possible MVP without getting those run blocks from the left side. That makes the OLine rise higher in terms of tiers.

Yes, the Skill players are more of a priority. if we replaced all our skill players with #1 OL.. the offense wouldn't be they way it is today

Well - yes - what you get in terms of having more skill players is needing less O-line talent. *However* that is going to take up a lot of cap space. Kittle, Deebo, and CMC are probably being paid 15+ million a year each (I Defer to AB81 on this), a top tier O-line might be more cap friendly.

An OLine with two McKivitz on the outside OTs and three Banks on the inside, and Ronnie Bell, Dwelly, Mason, Ray Ray, Jauan Jennings (at the skill positions) - might be more sustainable from a cap perspective than Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Juszczyk and CMC all together (for example).

top players paid in any position is going to take up cap space, but who would take a top paid OL vs a top paid skill player

Cap friendly OL that is above avg is what we have now, and you see the results of having a better team all around. You don't need the best OL

But you need the best skill positions? Is that your best combination? Top tier QB + Skill positions? #Madden

i see you can't comprehend.. no where did i say you need that lol

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So now top 5 is ok? Thought you needed tier 1 elite 2 OL.