49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

I've seen our Oline ranked 25th-22nd in various capacities somewhat recently, and even a bump up to 20th after the Cardinals game--but they suck.

Without TW I could see us being in the bottom 3,easily.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

We can only run the football on the left side behind Trent. And it always cracks me up that people think this is a good thing.

We do this out of necessity because our right side f**king sucks balls

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

I'd love it if our line was the 2nd comming of the redskins Hogs line that dominated the mid '80's. They were big, fast, agile, and hostile. Unfortunately we have a smallish agile and athletic line that doesn't have size or power (other than Trent) to anchor against a defense bent on pass rushing if they are behind. The saving grace is that this team is rarely behind.

If this team can develop two McKivitz's and three Banks (and keep Trent Williams playing till he's 40), that would go a long way towards getting a dominant OLine.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

Agree 💯%, and its one of the few times Kyle has been out coached. But I like Kyle on re-matches, he's smart enough or humble or wants revenge enough to change his game plan to win. But he has to get his nose bloodied to get him to change. He's that far ahead of most coaches, in that way.

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

I've seen our Oline ranked 25th-22nd in various capacities somewhat recently, and even a bump up to 20th after the Cardinals game--but they suck.

Without TW I could see us being in the bottom 3,easily.

Agree, if Kyle can't generate a ground game, his offense falls apart like a jenga game. I.e. Pull out one piece and the whole thing crumbles.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

Agree 💯%, and its one of the few times Kyle has been out coached. But I like Kyle on re-matches, he's smart enough or humble or wants revenge enough to change his game plan to win. But he has to get his nose bloodied to get him to change. He's that far ahead of most coaches, in that way.

I think we would play way better in a rematch as well. I said in another post we need the jimmy g offense when the line isn't holding up. Quick drop, quick routes etc. Ball out asap aka nothing deep lol. I honestly thought we'd try to run it 35x this game.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

Agree 💯%, and its one of the few times Kyle has been out coached. But I like Kyle on re-matches, he's smart enough or humble or wants revenge enough to change his game plan to win. But he has to get his nose bloodied to get him to change. He's that far ahead of most coaches, in that way.

I think we would play way better in a rematch as well. I said in another post we need the jimmy g offense when the line isn't holding up. Quick drop, quick routes etc. Ball out asap aka nothing deep lol. I honestly thought we'd try to run it 35x this game.

Agree, I thought that would be the gameplan too, but I was wrong. McVay has won a super bowl and Kyle hasn't - I think - for a reason. McVay came out running against the Ravens and nearly beat them. I think the current difference between McVay and Kyle is that Kyle is much more aggressive and tends to try to outthink the opposition, whereas McVay will try to out-execute you and out-thinking you is not his main focus. IMO.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

"Purdy is amazing but..." ---this is the problem right here. He is already a SuperHero in your mind.

He can do no wrong. He cant possibly have a bad start to a game where a large chunk of the blame is on him.

He is amazing and that's that.

Then you point directly towards everyone without a jersey you plan to buy.

Same recycled story whenever we lose. Does it not get old?

We got beat by a better team. Period.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

Agree 💯%, and its one of the few times Kyle has been out coached. But I like Kyle on re-matches, he's smart enough or humble or wants revenge enough to change his game plan to win. But he has to get his nose bloodied to get him to change. He's that far ahead of most coaches, in that way.

I think we would play way better in a rematch as well. I said in another post we need the jimmy g offense when the line isn't holding up. Quick drop, quick routes etc. Ball out asap aka nothing deep lol. I honestly thought we'd try to run it 35x this game.

Agree, I thought that would be the gameplan too, but I was wrong. McVay has won a super bowl and Kyle hasn't - I think - for a reason. McVay came out running against the Ravens and nearly beat them. I think the current difference between McVay and Kyle is that Kyle is much more aggressive and tends to try to outthink the opposition, whereas McVay will try to out-execute you and out-thinking you is not his main focus. IMO.

Crazy to see a take like this. Just 2 years ago fans were all the time crying that Kyle is too conservative. Doesn't have that killer instinct. Isn't aggressive enough. Now apparently he is too agressive. Someone needs to get Kyle Shanahan that memo. Time to change it up again.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Do we have to have the worst offensive line of all competitors every single year?

Worst OLine, Worst Playcaller. Your usual fallbacks.

It's helpful to actually watch the games.

It's amazing some folks still give us s**t for simply saying the o line is bad. It's the crutch of this roster.

It's not like we're even trying to pick a fight or insult Kyle. We love him but the truth is the o line has been neglected.

Purdy is amazing but there's only so much a qb can do without protection. The ravens played a fantastic scheme against our tendencies. Out-coached and outmatched along the line.

Agree 💯%, and its one of the few times Kyle has been out coached. But I like Kyle on re-matches, he's smart enough or humble or wants revenge enough to change his game plan to win. But he has to get his nose bloodied to get him to change. He's that far ahead of most coaches, in that way.

I think we would play way better in a rematch as well. I said in another post we need the jimmy g offense when the line isn't holding up. Quick drop, quick routes etc. Ball out asap aka nothing deep lol. I honestly thought we'd try to run it 35x this game.

Agree, I thought that would be the gameplan too, but I was wrong. McVay has won a super bowl and Kyle hasn't - I think - for a reason. McVay came out running against the Ravens and nearly beat them. I think the current difference between McVay and Kyle is that Kyle is much more aggressive and tends to try to outthink the opposition, whereas McVay will try to out-execute you and out-thinking you is not his main focus. IMO.

Crazy to see a take like this. Just 2 years ago fans were all the time crying that Kyle is too conservative. Doesn't have that killer instinct. Isn't aggressive enough. Now apparently he is too agressive. Someone needs to get Kyle Shanahan that memo. Time to change it up again.

Against most teams he can play his typical game plan, but not against John's team. They are very well coached and don't get fooled very much. His game plan didn't work. Evidence of this -- just look at Monday night's score board.

Only NC thinks this OL could end up top 2-3 in the league at season's end (his words a week ago,... not mine).

No one else has said such and we universally want a younger guy in there developing into a possible LT.

Could use a center upgrade as well.

Hasanyone not been on board with a tackle upgrade even through all the wins?

Forgive me for not understanding the thought process of crying about what is already known whenever we lose a game (that our QB clearly played bad in, btw).

Originally posted by TyCore:
Without TW I could see us being in the bottom 3,easily.

Cool story. Now take every other team's top tackle away and redo the errant comparision.

Interested in this breakdown actually,... If you are truly committed to doing it?