49ers Offensive Line

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You have to understand match ups and Shanahan doesn't. In this game you run right at the Ravens. You don't let that awesome defense tee off and pass rush you.

You don't have a lot of choice down 18 dude. 4 offensive plays and it goes from 4 to 18.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
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Even faithful realizes QB makes the difference.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You have to understand match ups and Shanahan doesn't. In this game you run right at the Ravens. You don't let that awesome defense tee off and pass rush you.

You don't have a lot of choice down 18 dude. 4 offensive plays and it goes from 4 to 18.

You can disagree with certain plays but saying Shanahan doesn't understand matchups is ridiculous. You actually think you know football better than Kyle. Get serious.

What's the word on Banks? Why not switch him to the right btw?

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
What's the word on Banks? Why not switch him to the right btw?

Better on the left to tandem with Trent Williams and give us at least 1 good side.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
What's the word on Banks? Why not switch him to the right btw?

And not right now obvs, just seems like it would potentially even out the strength of the line

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think we can certainly win the SB, in fact, I view us as the favorite. Now that's with a healthy OL. If TW is out, we move from favorite, to another team in the field, imo. It's a big blow. I am optimistic, that TW can miss this game, and the LA game, and we can still hopefully win out and get the bye. That's three weeks off.

Yes, Health has always been an issue with Kyle's teams. Not saying it isn't with other teams, but his offenses are so intricate that one key piece is missing and his offense or defense falls apart. But agree with you, if 49ers are in good health, they should still be the favorites to win the super bowl.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, I thought that would be the gameplan too, but I was wrong. McVay has won a super bowl and Kyle hasn't - I think - for a reason. McVay came out running against the Ravens and nearly beat them. I think the current difference between McVay and Kyle is that Kyle is much more aggressive and tends to try to outthink the opposition, whereas McVay will try to out-execute you and out-thinking you is not his main focus. IMO.

Running right at the Ravens is the way to go. It was working and we abandoned it. Letting them tee off with pass rush is a bad idea.

Running a the Ravens was the right game plan, I agree. That helps the pass protection - since the ravens lead the league in sacks. It's common sense to do so, I would think, but I guess not for Kyle.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, I thought that would be the gameplan too, but I was wrong. McVay has won a super bowl and Kyle hasn't - I think - for a reason. McVay came out running against the Ravens and nearly beat them. I think the current difference between McVay and Kyle is that Kyle is much more aggressive and tends to try to outthink the opposition, whereas McVay will try to out-execute you and out-thinking you is not his main focus. IMO.

Running right at the Ravens is the way to go. It was working and we abandoned it. Letting them tee off with pass rush is a bad idea.

Running a the Ravens was the right game plan, I agree. That helps the pass protection - since the ravens lead the league in sacks. It's common sense to do so, I would think, but I guess not for Kyle.

It seems not.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Running a the Ravens was the right game plan, I agree. That helps the pass protection - since the ravens lead the league in sacks. It's common sense to do so, I would think, but I guess not for Kyle.

Why do the Ravens lead the league in sacks?

Understanding the reason would probably illuminate why we struggled with them, especially when we don't see them regularly.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Why do the Ravens lead the league in sacks?

Understanding the reason would probably illuminate why we struggled with them, especially when we don't see them regularly.

They disguise coverages and blitzes better that the other 31 teams. Heck sometimes they just do creeper blitzes which aren't real blitzes (rush 5) and they do it so well that the QB and the O-line don't even notice that they are rushing only 4.

Fans say that we were losing by a lot and that's why Shanahan didn't run more but the reality is that in the first 2 drives we only ran once with CMC. I'm convinced that 3 or 4 runs with CMC in those first 2 possessions would have meant 2 TD's and the game would have been very different.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Running a the Ravens was the right game plan, I agree. That helps the pass protection - since the ravens lead the league in sacks. It's common sense to do so, I would think, but I guess not for Kyle.

Well that's because you have more "common sense" offensively than Kyle. I mean everyone knows that here.

But is there any record on here of you discussing this strategy BEFORE the game? Just asking.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
They disguise coverages and blitzes better that the other 31 teams. Heck sometimes they just do creeper blitzes which aren't real blitzes (rush 5) and they do it so well that the QB and the O-line don't even notice that they are rushing only 4.

Fans say that we were losing by a lot and that's why Shanahan didn't run more but the reality is that in the first 2 drives we only ran once with CMC. I'm convinced that 3 or 4 runs with CMC in those first 2 possessions would have meant 2 TD's and the game would have been very different.

To your second point, on that initial drive we went right down the field through the air against them. Every team stacks the box and prioritizes defending the run against us. It makes sense to attack through the air, and we were very successful until the QB made a pretty bad mistake in execution. It's easy to say we should have ran the ball when something like that happens. It's just as easy to say the QB shouldn't make that mistake.

That's not to crush Brock. He's a young player that's still learning. He's going to make mistakes and have bad games too. It's just bizarre to me that there's probably a pretty large crossover between people who think Brock is one of the best QB's in the league, but also think we can't ask him to make plays when the defense is susceptible to those plays…

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Running right at the Ravens is the way to go. It was working and we abandoned it. Letting them tee off with pass rush is a bad idea.

You can't run down 21 in the 4th quarter. Went from 4 down to 18 down in 4 offensive plays.

Not establishing the run from the outset was the problem,pretty good chance you don't end up with such a deficit if that had been the case.