49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'll make it very simple. The 9ers O line is the Jimmy G of O lines. Slightly above average. They absolutely can win the SB with that because of Brock.

It's also a Jimmy G like secondary. Needs to be carried by the front 7.

Every team left has flaws. Even Baltimore. Who can mitigate them the best with execution wins.

Good analogy....I agree that we have Brock to carry the line unless we don't call the correct plays. Our secondary is the Jimmy G of the defense and without Arik we are feeling that effect.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But ok if you are really think it requires both who has both right now?

The last 7 winners had both. I just don't see it with Hurts and Goff despite their OL's being in Tier 1 ATM. Brock has clearly played far better but like we've seen several times, even that might not be enough and definitely not if he has an off game.

Both Chiefs (#3) and the Ravens are currently at tier 2 so perhaps they'll have moved up into tier 1 by the end of the season. Even then, Mahomes has not played tier 1 all year. Even Lamar is streaky. Now Brock had a poor game of TO's.

I just don't see a lot of tier 1 consistent play at either OL or QB to date across the league. The difference between 1 and 7 is minimal and shifts weekly.

What do you think?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But ok if you are really think it requires both who has both right now?

The last 7 winners had both.

Because they are picking them at the end.

4eva challenged you to "pick" without the use of hindsight for once. As we all see, you have no opinion to share in advance.

You are selling something over and over that you never come through on,....and reversing the question back to doubters.

Originally posted by NCommand:
The last 7 winners had both. I just don't see it with Hurts and Goff despite their OL's being in Tier 1 ATM. Brock has clearly played far better but like we've seen several times, even that might not be enough and definitely not if he has an off game.

Both Chiefs (#3) and the Ravens are currently at tier 2 so perhaps they'll have moved up into tier 1 by the end of the season. Even then, Mahomes has not played tier 1 all year. Even Lamar is streaky. Now Brock had a poor game of TO's.

I just don't see a lot of tier 1 consistent play at either OL or QB to date across the league. The difference between 1 and 7 is minimal and shifts weekly.

What do you think?

I think the 9ers have every bit the shot to win the SB as anyone else. Go as far as Brock takes em as I've said. 4 picks won't get it done.

Originally posted by random49er:
Because they are picking them at the end.

4eva challenged you to "pick" without the use of hindsight for once. As we all see, you have no opinion to share in advance.

You are selling something over and over that you never come through on,....and reversing the question back to doubters.

If the Ravens win the next two games and Thorn undeservedly promotes the Ravens O line to tier 1 on the back of Lamar making them look better than they are that's what he'll lean on.

He picked the Eagles and Lions on the strength of their O Lines not qbs. Just gotta own it.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
If the Ravens win the next two games and Thorn undeservedly promotes the Ravens O line to tier 1 on the back of Lamar making them look better than they are that's what he'll lean on.

He picked the Eagles and Lions on the strength of their O Lines not qbs. Just gotta own it.

I'd be curious to see his previous rankings and how they changed through the Super Bowl.

I wishing the San Francisco 49ers offensive lines success in their endeavors to build a formidable and well-protected team.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by random49er:
Because they are picking them at the end.

4eva challenged you to "pick" without the use of hindsight for once. As we all see, you have no opinion to share in advance.

You are selling something over and over that you never come through on,....and reversing the question back to doubters.

If the Ravens win the next two games and Thorn undeservedly promotes the Ravens O line to tier 1 on the back of Lamar making them look better than they are that's what he'll lean on.

He picked the Eagles and Lions on the strength of their O Lines not qbs. Just gotta own it.

No, I made a bet because the last 7 years the Superbowl winner just magically came from a team within their tier 1. So I stuck with that for year 8 for fun since that's been half the proven formula.

I'm not sure how your silly brain draws OL > QB from that. The previous winners all had tier 1 QB's also. That combination is the winning formula not just the OL. That's been 1/2 of the formula.

This year, I'd easily say Brock + Mahomes > Hurts + Goff and both are in the OL tier 2 currently.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
The last 7 winners had both. I just don't see it with Hurts and Goff despite their OL's being in Tier 1 ATM. Brock has clearly played far better but like we've seen several times, even that might not be enough and definitely not if he has an off game.

Both Chiefs (#3) and the Ravens are currently at tier 2 so perhaps they'll have moved up into tier 1 by the end of the season. Even then, Mahomes has not played tier 1 all year. Even Lamar is streaky. Now Brock had a poor game of TO's.

I just don't see a lot of tier 1 consistent play at either OL or QB to date across the league. The difference between 1 and 7 is minimal and shifts weekly.

What do you think?

I think the 9ers have every bit the shot to win the SB as anyone else. Go as far as Brock takes em as I've said. 4 picks won't get it done.

If you're a top 5-7 team with a QB playing near an MVP level, an OL in tier 2, DL in tier 1, you'll always be in the hunt.

Look at TW's week 16 rankings. You can make a case for 6 of the 7 teams winning it all. And that wouldn't be a coincidence they have higher end OL's either.

OL Rankings – Week 16
1. Eagles
2. Lions
3. Chiefs
4. Bucs
5. 49ers
6. Cowboys
7. Ravens

Ironically, I'd say of the DL rankings, only half of those teams I'd expect to be in the hunt.

DL Rankings – Week 16
1. Cowboys
2. Steelers
3. Jets
4. Eagles
5. Browns
6. 49ers (temp drop d/t key injuries)
7. Chiefs

Knowing how your silly brain works, I'm sure you just concluded something like this: "NC is now saying OL >>>> QB and DL. Just own it!"

Originally posted by NCommand:
No, I made a bet because the last 7 years the Superbowl winner just magically came from a team within their tier 1. So I stuck with that for year 8 for fun since that's been half the proven formula.

I'm not sure how your silly brain draws OL > QB from that. The previous winners all had tier 1 QB's also. That combination is the winning formula not just the OL. That's been 1/2 of the formula.

This year, I'd easily say Brock + Mahomes > Hurts + Goff and both are in the OL tier 2 currently.

And what's the other half of the formula? A tier one QB apparently. What is Jared Goff not? A tier one QB.

So if the formula is so important why bet the Lions?

What's never been mentioned in the Brock Purdy thread? Any mention that he needs to be a tier one QB to win the Super Bowl.

The Caveats keep growing 😂

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
The Caveats keep growing 😂

What subject matter expert with a paywall will we need to read only the free stuff of to determine who the tier one Qbs are I wonder.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
But ok if you are really think it requires both who has both right now?

The last 7 winners had both. I just don't see it with Hurts and Goff despite their OL's being in Tier 1 ATM. Brock has clearly played far better but like we've seen several times, even that might not be enough and definitely not if he has an off game.

Both Chiefs (#3) and the Ravens are currently at tier 2 so perhaps they'll have moved up into tier 1 by the end of the season. Even then, Mahomes has not played tier 1 all year. Even Lamar is streaky. Now Brock had a poor game of TO's.

I just don't see a lot of tier 1 consistent play at either OL or QB to date across the league. The difference between 1 and 7 is minimal and shifts weekly.

What do you think?

Thanks for asking me. I think Burrow was well on his way to elite tier 1 territory. They were moving with ease. Then he got hurt. Other than that, Dak was tier 1 but you can't trust him. That may make some people mad, but Dak at his best is elite. He shows up like that maybe 6-7 times a year tho. The rest of the games are average

The O line, before the injuries, played no worse than they have all season. Anyone blaming the O line for the loss against the ravens instead of the game plan by the HC and execution by the QB simply has an agenda.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The O line, before the injuries, played no worse than they have all season. Anyone blaming the O line for the loss against the ravens instead of the game plan by the HC and execution by the QB simply has an agenda.

An agenda in this thread? Never