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49ers Offensive Line
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:38 PM
- BobSacamano69
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I saw Buford let his DT TOTALLY blow by him multiple times this game. We still need help on the OL.
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:39 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
It's always been that. b******ters going to b******t
Oh I know. Sad day for him knowing is chosen horses will be the 3 and 5 seeds now barring a Cowboy DC collapse.
Oh he will he rooting his ass off for the niners to lose.
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:40 PM
- jreff22
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Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
I saw Buford let his DT TOTALLY blow by him multiple times this game. We still need help on the OL.
If Banks is back Buford needs to sit
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:41 PM
- Hoovtrain
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So banks was active today, but didn't play?
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:45 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
I saw Buford let his DT TOTALLY blow by him multiple times this game. We still need help on the OL.
This was the plan before the 1st snap of the 1st game,....and quite naturally, it still is (@ tackle).
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:56 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
I saw Buford let his DT TOTALLY blow by him multiple times this game. We still need help on the OL.
If Banks is back Buford needs to sit
No doubt.
Dec 31, 2023 at 1:57 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
OL was mostly good outside of goal line run blocking. Most of the pressures were coverage or Brock.
Get rested for the playoffs.
Very solid day esp. given Burford started again and Feliciano had to move back to LG for Banks.
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:01 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
If the Bears and Giants happened to have been in tier 1 ATT, I would have taken them too. Stick with the formula until proven otherwise. You're 0-7. I see why you didn't take the bet.
So the formula really is tier 1 OL and who cares at QB. But you need both.
Finally some honesty.
You and All go to the same school of comprehension. I won't spell it out for you for the billionth time. Too dense.
At the end of the day, there will be no formula in year 8. There is no tier 1 QB + tier 1 OL combination like last year and the previous 6.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 31, 2023 at 2:06 PM ]
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:02 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
OL was mostly good outside of goal line run blocking. Most of the pressures were coverage or Brock.
Get rested for the playoffs.
Yes, the Offensive line dominated the Washington DLine, for sure. Feliciano is a good lineman, hope Banks can get healthy for our first playoff game. Thats a solid (but not outstanding) with Banks and Feliciano in there. Burford and Feliciano are very similar from a physical standpoint, the difference is that Feliciano is stronger mentally. The OLine just clicks better with Feliciano in there.
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:03 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think there is one poster on here that doesn't think we should dedicate heavy draft capital to the O line.
My work here is done then. Haha.
Haha
I mean if we all agree they need to dedicate a lot capital to the OL…then the OL is clearly not that good
I just want to make it clear that this conversation shouldn't be like god and the devil. Where everything good is because of god (Kyle's sceme) and everything bad is because of the devil (O line). We have won 73% of our games this season with this O line. That includes 6 wins against teams currently sitting in playoff seeding. If we don't win a SB it won't solely be because of the devil. Do we need to upgrade the O line? Absolutely. But blaming everything on the O line everytime things don't go our way is a bs excuse and really just a narrative that a select few like to drive.
If you take the game to the Superbowl level, and typically a Superbowl team usually has very little to no weaknesses - then that's a different measuring stick. I think to win a Superbowl, you need all three at very good to elite level. (OLine, QB, and Coaching). We're not talking about an average regular season game here where the 49ers OLine has won 73% of their games. We're talking super bowl level matchups. If the Ravens vs 49ers *was* the championship game, we would have lost our 3rd super bowl. Having said that there are schematic and personnel changes, that ShanaLynch can do to have a better chance in February - but at this point given our current OLine (even if all were healthy) I wouldn't feel very confident about the OLine going into another Ravens vs 49ers championship game.
GTFOH! Every team has weaknesses. The SB comes down to injuries and matchups.
Relatively speaking *every team* isn't *elite* at every squad position, but they (Super Bowl teams) generally have *NO* weaknesses - as compared to the average NFL standards. I'm talking the Super Bowl WINNERS, not losers.
That is bs.
Look at the 5 49er superbowl wins, no weaknesses on those teams. Look at the two losses. Weakness at DB and QB/OLine.
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:04 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
I saw Buford let his DT TOTALLY blow by him multiple times this game. We still need help on the OL.
If Banks is back Buford needs to sit
No doubt.
Agree.
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:06 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by NCommand:
You and All go to the same school of comprehension. I won't spell it out for you for the billionth time. Too dense.
At the end of the day, there will be no formula in year 8. There is no tier 1 QB + OL combination like last year and the previous 6.
Uhmm,...you WILL spell it out, though. Once all the results of the season and postseason are officially in, it will be spelled out very clearly and precisely what you've really been saying all along,...and how you are right for an 8th consecutive season.
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:09 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Look at the 5 49er superbowl wins, no weaknesses on those teams. Look at the two losses. Weakness at DB and QB/OLine.
Why would we look at the 5 49er SB wins when free agency began in 1993 and the salary cap was implemented in 1994?
Perhaps you can explain to us how a completely different era of talent acquisition and the ability to keep it relates to now?
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 31, 2023 at 2:11 PM ]
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:11 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by random49er:
Free agency began in 1993 and the salary cap was implemented in 1994.
Perhaps you can explain to us how a completely different era of talent acquisition and the ability to keep it relates to now?
It doesn't.
Besides being a completely different league, it's also effectively a completely different franchise.
Hopefully we get it done this year. We have as good a chance as any other team and are in position.
Dec 31, 2023 at 2:15 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
It doesn't.
Besides being a completely different league, it's also effectively a completely different franchise.
Hopefully we get it done this year. We have as good a chance as any other team and are in position.
Even without a tier one OL. Imagine that.