49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Without Brock, this offense is in big trouble.

Without CMC and Elijah, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Kittle and Juice, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Aiyuk and Deebo, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Bosa and Young, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Armstead and Hargrave, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Warner and Greenlaw, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Mooney and Lenoir, this defense is in big trouble.

Liberty has also cracked the code

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Liberty has also cracked the code

Which one is most survivable?

Honestly would go with CMC/Eli… which is probably blasphemy to the CMC MVP crowd, lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Which one is most survivable?

Honestly would go with CMC/Eli… which is probably blasphemy to the CMC MVP crowd, lol.

Masons blitz pickup would still be very concerning.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Liberty has also cracked the code

Which one is most survivable?

Honestly would go with CMC/Eli… which is probably blasphemy to the CMC MVP crowd, lol.

Mason looks good running the ball, but he might get Brock kill in pass protection, so I really don't know.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Mason looks good running the ball, but he might get Brock kill in pass protection, so I really don't know.

We'd have to pick up a couple dudes. Gotta be a flawed runner decent pass pro type out there.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Banks too. Without Trent and Banks, this OL is in big trouble. And you can misquote me out of context on that one.

Without Brock, this offense is in big trouble.

Without CMC and Elijah, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Kittle and Juice, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Aiyuk and Deebo, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Bosa and Young, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Armstead and Hargrave, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Warner and Greenlaw, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Mooney and Lenoir, this defense is in big trouble.

well how bout this, with no TW or with TW injured we are 0-4; even with Brock, CMC and you name it playing

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Liberty has also cracked the code

Which one is most survivable?

Honestly would go with CMC/Eli… which is probably blasphemy to the CMC MVP crowd, lol.

We played with a back up center and back up RG in the superbowl and nearly won

If Brock is out things only work if we can have the next Brady/Bellicheck combo in Darnold/Wiks steering the ship.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Without Brock, this offense is in big trouble.

Without CMC and Elijah, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Kittle and Juice, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Aiyuk and Deebo, this offense is in big trouble.

Without Bosa and Young, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Armstead and Hargrave, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Warner and Greenlaw, this defense is in big trouble.

Without Mooney and Lenoir, this defense is in big trouble.

Liberty has also cracked the code

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

well how bout this, with no TW or with TW injured we are 0-4; even with Brock, CMC and you name it playing

I think we should keep him for next season as well then. You agree?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Liberty has also cracked the code

Which one is most survivable?

Honestly would go with CMC/Eli… which is probably blasphemy to the CMC MVP crowd, lol.

Mooney and Lenoir if I had to.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Is he wrong tho, in terms of a future loss?

I watched our losses this year. 65 team rush yds, with a MVP convo HOF RB, and a MVP convo QB.
all our losses we were running into the brick wall
or I believe it was 20 for 50 in the NFCCG, do the math on that one (the YPC math)...

not saying this is guaranteed, but there is a trend here..
AA talked about team rush yds, and the correlation of how it relates to winning, it's often what the game comes down to, I would say team rush yds, and TO battle are of the highest correlation, aside from points

How can I be wrong about a future loss that hasn't even happened? The point is to watch the games and evaluate what happens in the games. Not identify what you think are problematic areas of the team and then assign blame to them regardless of what happens in a game. That was the point of my post. NC's wording, like others in the Kyle or QB conversations, indicate that if we don't win it will be because of this problem he has with the team. Wait and see first.

The rest of your points here and results from weeks or even months ago, and certainly in previous years, really don't indicate a thing about what's going to happen going forward. Hell the games you referenced from earlier this season were played without Trent Williams, who is currently healthy. Even then, although the run game certainly suffered, OL performance wasn't necessarily the reason we lost those games. There were many factors including turnovers from QB… substandard defense…

No one is assigning blame regardless, that's where you are off. I am saying that in the Ls we have had, I know what the issues were, imo at least..
so if one considers the way in which we lose, there are some culprits that are perhaps more likely than others, that's all I am suggesting
NC just earlier today, admitted losing some bet of some sort, so he doesn't strike me as the type to stick with a narrative, even if the facts are glaringly in opposition..

😂

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
No one is assigning blame regardless, that's where you are off. I am saying that in the Ls we have had, I know what the issues were, imo at least..
so if one considers the way in which we lose, there are some culprits that are perhaps more likely than others, that's all I am suggesting
NC just earlier today, admitted losing some bet of some sort, so he doesn't strike me as the type to stick with a narrative, even if the facts are glaringly in opposition..

Jed York clearly

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
No one is assigning blame regardless, that's where you are off. I am saying that in the Ls we have had, I know what the issues were, imo at least..
so if one considers the way in which we lose, there are some culprits that are perhaps more likely than others, that's all I am suggesting
NC just earlier today, admitted losing some bet of some sort, so he doesn't strike me as the type to stick with a narrative, even if the facts are glaringly in opposition..

Jed York clearly

I'm not Jed, but he does set the standard, which is Super Bowls

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Take out Trent Williams, and I think our OLine becomes average. Take out Banks, and it becomes sub par. Just my opinon, of course.

Take the best player from every team and see what they become?

I say this every time this is my response.

No one exercises this "game" or furthers the point. Truthfully, there is no point.

We had an awesome SB team with Steve Young.

But you take Deion Sanders away the following 2 years and you also took away SB Ring #6 and #7 and handed it to the Cowboys.

So what is this thing about taking great players away all about? It makes completely no sense.

I think taking away Ricky Watters was just as bad as losing Deion. The next year we just didn't have 2 of our main horses that got us there before. Yes taking away one of our best players in TW would cause any unit to degrade to less than average.

All that being said when the Ravens Queen said we have "Tells". We are going to need great line play to let plays develope to confuse that A$$ Hat. I don't care about tiers but we are gong to have to play our best game to beat the Ravens should we meet them in the superbowl.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'm not Jed, but he does set the standard, which is Super Bowls

It clearly isn't, nor should it be.