49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Daft late round rookie QBs and spend big FA money on mediocre vet QBs who you limped into playoffs with.

Draft only OL

This is the way

Since no team ever does this... Nor ever will (because of the ignorant tunnel vision it would involve with millions of dollars at stake)... They rely on the fact that we cant instantly outline that these crazy ideas are blatantly false.

Imagine that?

Im all for everyone having their own opinion. Just dont completely take over thread topics and gatekeep it with nonsense.

With the exception of having Brady, the Patriots always spent heavy resources on their line. The skill players would come and go along with the defenders.

I would like to try the experiment though. I know it would never happen but would be Hella interesting.

Every smart HC knows, the second you get a tier 1 QB, especially if he's a classic drop back QB, you do everything in your power to get him a tier 1 OL.

How these guys ignore that, even recently, is beyond me.

Bingo. Unless you want to be the NYJ,

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
🤣 more bad faith arguments

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Right. Wirfs was a homerun pick and rare. Rookie that plays at an all pro level out of the gate. Buy, trade, draft, develop, etc. Do whatever it takes to allow your FQB to play at an optimal level.

Imagine fighting against that strategy as a fan. Imagine expecting that FQB to transcend the list of garbage I noted previously in front of him (not to mention all the OL injuries over the years here too).

Good luck with that proven losing formula.

Resources for improvement are finite. Available talent is finite. Success in acquisition is hit and miss. The rest of the team also has to be addressed.

There aint a fan alive that doesn't want 5 all pro OL.

True...lots of ways to build a team but we're talking 7 off seasons. That's more than enough time to build up your trenches to optimal level esp. the second you think you've got your FQB (from Jimmy to Trey to Brock).

Let's start with 2 at the same time? Haha

Originally posted by NCommand:
Every smart HC knows, the second you get a tier 1 QB, especially if he's a classic drop back QB, you do everything in your power to get him a tier 1 OL.

How these guys ignore that, even recently, is beyond me.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Right. Wirfs was a homerun pick and rare. Rookie that plays at an all pro level out of the gate. Buy, trade, draft, develop, etc. Do whatever it takes to allow your FQB to play at an optimal level.

Imagine fighting against that strategy as a fan. Imagine expecting that FQB to transcend the list of garbage I noted previously in front of him (not to mention all the OL injuries over the years here too).

Good luck with that proven losing formula.

Resources for improvement are finite. Available talent is finite. Success in acquisition is hit and miss. The rest of the team also has to be addressed.

There aint a fan alive that doesn't want 5 all pro OL.

True...lots of ways to build a team but we're talking 7 off seasons. That's more than enough time to build up your trenches to optimal level esp. the second you think you've got your FQB (from Jimmy to Trey to Brock).

Let's start with 2 at the same time? Haha

Yeah I would say the issue is while we have very talented roster the o line is glaringly weak. RT and RG especially. I mean without Trent the o-line is barely mediocre. I get not every position can be all pro, but RT is like a D- and can easily cost us the W.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yup. Would tier 2-3 QB's like Goff and Mayfield have won their divisions and made the playoffs if they didn't have tier 1, top 5 OL?

It works both ways. You need both. And yes, a top QB is still more important than a top OL. But they're both very important (esp. together) to a winning formula.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yeah I would say the issue is while we have very talented roster the o line is glaringly weak. RT and RG especially. I mean without Trent the o-line is barely mediocre. I get not every position can be all pro, but RT is like a D- and can easily cost us the W.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You got me bro. We both wanted Wirfs as well. Imagine if they drafted him and still got Trent. oooof.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You got me bro. We both wanted Wirfs as well. Imagine if they drafted him and still got Trent. oooof.

Imagine if we drafted Brady?

Or Lamar Jackson?

Or Mahomes?

I mean we can go on forever with "What ifs." They don't really serve much of a purpose though.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You got me bro. We both wanted Wirfs as well. Imagine if they drafted him and still got Trent. oooof.

Imagine if we drafted Brady?

Or Lamar Jackson?

Or Mahomes?

I mean we can go on forever with "What ifs." They don't really serve much of a purpose though.

Pretending we had a chance to draft wirf is also hilarious

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You got me bro. We both wanted Wirfs as well. Imagine if they drafted him and still got Trent. oooof.

Imagine if we drafted Brady?

Or Lamar Jackson?

Or Mahomes?

I mean we can go on forever with "What ifs." They don't really serve much of a purpose though.

Pretending we had a chance to draft wirf is also hilarious

I mean, we had a chance. Tackle was just not considered a "need" at that point with MM.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I mean, we had a chance. Tackle was just not considered a "need" at that point with MM.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I mean, we had a chance. Tackle was just not considered a "need" at that point with MM.

Would have had to trade up IIRC.