49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:


what's interesting about the Bengals, take a look at Jake Browning's numbers

Speaks more to the skill positions than it does to their bad OL.

You need both

Agree, to win a championship - you need *both* and preferably at the highest levels.

"preferably"

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Our most recent higher draft pick investment suggests Kyle isn't stuck on drafting smaller athletic lineman ideally fit for the zone scheme.

That's true. TW is his (and everybody's) ideal and Banks is a big strong boy. I'm curious if they go that route again at RG this year...not giving up on Burford of course. I'm very curious what they do at C and T in terms of bringing in legit challenging talent.

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Bwahahaha. I'm FULLY prepared for it. I'm battled tested and ready! Bring it on and the gossip fan boys to support it 10000000%.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahahaha. I'm FULLY prepared for it. I'm battled tested and ready! Bring it on and the gossip fan boys to support it 10000000%.

You look at all the aggregate statistical rankings and it indicates we have a very good run blocking line and not so great in pass protection. Given our offensive success revolves around the run and playaction passing I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't the priority fans would want it to be. Also just depends on who's available when we draft (or through trade/FA).

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:


what's interesting about the Bengals, take a look at Jake Browning's numbers

Speaks more to the skill positions than it does to their bad OL.

You need both

Agree, to win a championship - you need *both* and preferably at the highest levels.

Preach, bretherens!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Our most recent higher draft pick investment suggests Kyle isn't stuck on drafting smaller athletic lineman ideally fit for the zone scheme.

That's true. TW is his (and everybody's) ideal and Banks is a big strong boy. I'm curious if they go that route again at RG this year...not giving up on Burford of course. I'm very curious what they do at C and T in terms of bringing in legit challenging talent.

.

Bwahahaha. I'm FULLY prepared for it. I'm battled tested and ready! Bring it on and the gossip fan boys to support it 10000000%.

That's what makes the draft interesting for me. You truly never know what any GM/Coach is going to do in the draft. After the first two picks - it's basically unpredictable at that point.

Having said that, Kyle's made up for a lot of his OLine shortcomings with his free agency acquisitions. That always seems a positive and not a negative attribute in Kyle's case. I think he does this on purpose. So he can devote the draft to his weakness (in a sense) the defense. I.e. he's not a defensive coach, and he'll let his offensive expertise make up the talent differential on the offense (and more specifically) the offensive line - and let the defense have all the athletic talent. Just a theory.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahahaha. I'm FULLY prepared for it. I'm battled tested and ready! Bring it on and the gossip fan boys to support it 10000000%.

A high end corner instead of a tackle? The horror.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
A high end corner instead of a tackle? The horror.

s**t I'd take another WR, lol. Let's just get good players, whatever they are.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahahaha. I'm FULLY prepared for it. I'm battled tested and ready! Bring it on and the gossip fan boys to support it 10000000%.

A high end corner instead of a tackle? The horror.

battle tested but needs to block people who bring up the truth

Originally posted by Giedi:
That's what makes the draft interesting for me. You truly never know what any GM/Coach is going to do in the draft. After the first two picks - it's basically unpredictable at that point.

Having said that, Kyle's made up for a lot of his OLine shortcomings with his free agency acquisitions. That always seems a positive and not a negative attribute in Kyle's case. I think he does this on purpose. So he can devote the draft to his weakness (in a sense) the defense. I.e. he's not a defensive coach, and he'll let his offensive expertise make up the talent differential on the offense (and more specifically) the offensive line - and let the defense have all the athletic talent. Just a theory.

Kyle is well versed on the Defensive side... Trying to turn opinions into facts is whats causing this thread to turn to crap

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:
That's what makes the draft interesting for me. You truly never know what any GM/Coach is going to do in the draft. After the first two picks - it's basically unpredictable at that point.

Having said that, Kyle's made up for a lot of his OLine shortcomings with his free agency acquisitions. That always seems a positive and not a negative attribute in Kyle's case. I think he does this on purpose. So he can devote the draft to his weakness (in a sense) the defense. I.e. he's not a defensive coach, and he'll let his offensive expertise make up the talent differential on the offense (and more specifically) the offensive line - and let the defense have all the athletic talent. Just a theory.

Kyle is well versed on the Defensive side... Trying to turn opinions into facts is whats causing this thread to turn to crap

Defense is more about talent than scheme.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahahaha. I'm FULLY prepared for it. I'm battled tested and ready! Bring it on and the gossip fan boys to support it 10000000%.

You look at all the aggregate statistical rankings and it indicates we have a very good run blocking line and not so great in pass protection. Given our offensive success revolves around the run and playaction passing I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't the priority fans would want it to be. Also just depends on who's available when we draft (or through trade/FA).

I'm right there with you. And if they pull it off this year and can stick to that winning formula, because they are very good at that strength, I won't argue it much other than T to be more proactive, knowing TW won't be here forever and this system could take a full year just to learn. But yeah, it also very much depends on who's available and their willingness to move up and down for it.

Either way, like always, I'll be over here:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:
That's what makes the draft interesting for me. You truly never know what any GM/Coach is going to do in the draft. After the first two picks - it's basically unpredictable at that point.

Having said that, Kyle's made up for a lot of his OLine shortcomings with his free agency acquisitions. That always seems a positive and not a negative attribute in Kyle's case. I think he does this on purpose. So he can devote the draft to his weakness (in a sense) the defense. I.e. he's not a defensive coach, and he'll let his offensive expertise make up the talent differential on the offense (and more specifically) the offensive line - and let the defense have all the athletic talent. Just a theory.

Kyle is well versed on the Defensive side... Trying to turn opinions into facts is whats causing this thread to turn to crap

Defense is more about talent than scheme.

That's if you have the talent, but that is irrelevant to your statement of Kyle not knowing Defense

Kyle promotes all his offensive coaches to study the Defensive side first as he did. It's the basis of how he can exploit defenses with his scheme

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm right there with you. And if they pull it off this year and can stick to that winning formula, because they are very good at that strength, I won't argue it much other than T to be more proactive, knowing TW won't be here forever and this system could take a full year just to learn. But yeah, it also very much depends on who's available and their willingness to move up and down for it.

Either way, like always, I'll be over here:

Considering a new coach (Possibly Jim Harbaugh) going to the Chargers, if I was ShanaLynch - I'd make it a priority to see if they can get Rashawn Slater by hook or by crook! Jim's been back here for the 49er Alumni meetings and so it seems Jed and Jim have patched up their relationship. I hope that would make any trades easier in the offseason, specially if Jim hired Adam Peters for his GM - if the 49ers go with getting free agents for the offensive line versus drafting them.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:
That's what makes the draft interesting for me. You truly never know what any GM/Coach is going to do in the draft. After the first two picks - it's basically unpredictable at that point.

Having said that, Kyle's made up for a lot of his OLine shortcomings with his free agency acquisitions. That always seems a positive and not a negative attribute in Kyle's case. I think he does this on purpose. So he can devote the draft to his weakness (in a sense) the defense. I.e. he's not a defensive coach, and he'll let his offensive expertise make up the talent differential on the offense (and more specifically) the offensive line - and let the defense have all the athletic talent. Just a theory.

Kyle is well versed on the Defensive side... Trying to turn opinions into facts is whats causing this thread to turn to crap

Defense is more about talent than scheme.

That's if you have the talent, but that is irrelevant to your statement of Kyle not knowing Defense

Kyle promotes all his offensive coaches to study the Defensive side first as he did. It's the basis of how he can exploit defenses with his scheme

I never said Kyle *didn't know defense* - I said - it's not his strength.

If you subtract feliciano I think this is the worst group kyles has since he took over coaching... The whole right side is turnstile bad... Brendel is worse than that previous underachiever we had at center too.

I don't recall us having that before.