49ers Offensive Line

We can wash the aggregates, the rankings, and their importance away for now. Glad we get a break from that stuff.

Everyone wants an OL that plays well, A QB that plays well, etc,

The silliness is in trying to translate rankings directly to real life like we're playing Tecmo Bowl. If you understand numbers, you'll understand that rankings are not stats and they cant be predictive to begin with. But I realize that understanding such is a little higher than the forced discussion that is now extinct.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Give NC credit on one thing, Dak did look like Jimmy G today. Wonder if Cowboy fans are blaming their O line.

I'm not sure if I have ever seen Jimmy pad stats on like that during an ugly loss.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Give NC credit on one thing, Dak did look like Jimmy G today. Wonder if Cowboy fans are blaming their O line.

i'm sure there is cheato fingered guy in a basement somewhere posting about it on a Cowgirl board

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Give NC credit on one thing, Dak did look like Jimmy G today. Wonder if Cowboy fans are blaming their O line.

I'm not sure if I have ever seen Jimmy pad stats on like that during an ugly loss.

To be fair a great o line can elevate a good or mediocre qb but also expose a not so good qb as well. I think Dallas should move on from dak. He ain't it.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
To be fair a great o line can elevate a good or mediocre qb but also expose a not so good qb as well. I think Dallas should move on from dak. He ain't it.

Dak ain't it. Goff ain't it. Hurts ain't it.

I'll post this in a couple places since I took the time just now to put it together....but just in case someone's trying to sell you on QB talent not being the main divider between team success ,...here are the 11 QBs still standing as of now:

So...6 Top 10 picks,..2 more 1st rounders, a 2nd, a 3rd, and our guy.

Originally posted by random49er:
So...6 Top 10 picks,..2 more 1st rounders, a 2nd, a 3rd, and our guy.

The 2nd might be out tomorrow. 3rd will be out barring something crazy.

Let's see how TrenchWarfare and Brandon Thorn are doing so far.

TW/BT = 3-1 so far. We've had some amazing tier 1 QB play to go with it too. The only loss is Dallas but TW evaluates trench play, not QB (Jimmy Garoppolo 2.0) play in this exercise but I'd still give the edge to the Packers overall. They played their ass off.

You need both.

Let's see what tonight brings.

Aggregate | Playoff Seeding | Record
1. Cowboys 3. (2) | 2 | 12-5 - Eliminated
6. Eagles 1. (3.5) | 5 | 11-6
2. 49ers 7. (4.5) | 1 | 12-5
5. Chiefs 6. (5.5) | 3 | 11-6
10. Lions 2. (6) | 3 | 12-5
9. Texans 5. (7) | 4 | 10-7
8. Ravens 8. (8) | 1 | 13-4
4. Browns 12. (8) | 5 | 11-6 - Eliminated
13. Bucs 4. (8.5) | 4 | 9-8
3. Steelers 14. (8.5) | 7 | 10-7
7. Packers 11. (9) | 7 | 9-8
11. Rams 10. (10.5) | 6 | 10-6 - Eliminated
12. Bills 9. (10.5) | 2 | 11-6
14. Dolphins 13. (13.5) | 6 | 11-6 - Eliminated

Just based on trench talent+, Eagles and Steelers should have the edge. Let's see how it pans out and how their QB's play.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
To be fair a great o line can elevate a good or mediocre qb but also expose a not so good qb as well. I think Dallas should move on from dak. He ain't it.

Perfect example that even if you have tier 1 trench play, you can't transcend a poor QB who's psychologically broken (like Jimmy). And vice versa. A tier 1 QB can only transcend so much (Mahomes, Burrow, Brees, Brady, Stafford, etc.). They lose without it, as proven.

Hard concept to grasp even with the proof.

You need both, ideally (as proven).

Talk to you, tomorrow!

So when the 49ers win the SB will that automatically make our O line tier 1?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So when the 49ers win the SB will that automatically make our O line tier 1?

It will suddenly be the best line they ever constructed yes.

I mean according to BT, that DAL O line is atleast tier 2 right? Then you add in that Dak was awarded 2nd team All-Pro. That means DAL has the O line + the QB and lost to a 7th seed team that barely made it into the playoffs. Shouldn't that be enough to debunk the theory you need both? How about you need a QB, a defense and a coach capable of getting you there?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I mean according to BT, that DAL O line is atleast tier 2 right? Then you add in that Dak was awarded 2nd team All-Pro. That means DAL has the O line + the QB and lost to a 7th seed team that barely made it into the playoffs. Shouldn't that be enough to debunk the theory you need both? How about you need a QB, a defense and a coach capable of getting you there?

That is the far superior formula.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I mean according to BT, that DAL O line is atleast tier 2 right? Then you add in that Dak was awarded 2nd team All-Pro. That means DAL has the O line + the QB and lost to a 7th seed team that barely made it into the playoffs. Shouldn't that be enough to debunk the theory you need both? How about you need a QB, a defense and a coach capable of getting you there?

That is the far superior formula.

In the illustrious where's of a fellow poster….

Hard concept to grasp even with the proof