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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

A tackle was in the cards either way since McGlinchey left. No high picks last year.

It really isint about Trent as much as it is about improving at the tackle spot.
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 30, 2024 at 7:42 PM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

A tackle was in the cards either way since McGlinchey left. No high picks last year.

It really isint about Trent as much as it is about improving at the tackle spot.

Yes, Very true. It is an overdue need.
Who is Chris Foerster, as an offensive line coach, in my opinion? Did he not realize that the offensive lines needed to be trained on how to protect our quarterback?
Observe how the Chiefs had excellent offensive lines to shield Mahomes. I wonder who Andy Heck's offensive line coach is.
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Who is Chris Foerster, as an offensive line coach, in my opinion? Did he not realize that the offensive lines needed to be trained on how to protect our quarterback?

I don't know… but he needs a 24/7 chaperone the minute they land in Vegas
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
We should trade up for this guy.

Tyler Guyton

Oklahoma · OT · Senior

Guyton is a tall, long and rangy right tackle. He doesn't have a ton of starting experience (15 total starts over four years at Oklahoma and TCU), but he is very gifted. In pass pro, he explodes out of his stance and has the range to cover up speed rushers. He is very fluid and smooth in his redirect versus counter rushers. He plays with excellent knee bend. His problems arise versus power rushers, where he can look a little flimsy up top and get tugged/pulled. He has very good awareness for someone with limited reps. In the run game, he moves like a tight end. He can reach and cut off easily, excelling in space. He is exceptional as a puller because of his athleticism and balance on the perimeter. He does a great job staying off the ground. Overall, Guyton is still a work in progress, but he has elite traits and tools.
We'll most likely have the 31st or 32n'd pick in the first round. That's Basically a high second round pick. I'd love for the 49ers to trade down that pick and get multiple day two picks and get some depth that the bottom feeding teams will poach from us. Guy's like Chase Young, Celine Ferrel, Jauan Jennings, Pryor, Feliciano etc... I think will be poached, or if retained will take a chunk of limited 2024 cap space. Got to have a good draft and hit on some starters (hopefully one or two on the OLine squad) this next draft to keep that Superbowl window open.

I hope we can retain Aiyuk, but he's going to command premium cap space. It's going to be really hard to retain him, but if anybody can do it -- ShanaLynch can do it.
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
I'd love to see a new exciting right tackle come in and learn from Trent Williams while he is still here

Also if we get a good Right Tackle, the opposition defences wont know which way e are going to run the ball instead of it always being to the left

Agree, I'd like that depth that comes with a rookie Offensive Tackle. I still like McKivitiz. I think he's *better* than McGlinchy, and also I think he's progressed and can be - I think - a top right tackle if he keeps improving on his current trajectory. I saw McKivitz pancake some Lion's DLinemen in the NFCCG - and I didn't expect that.
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

I would love that. However, They've been impressive finding free agent OLine gems in Compton, Brunskill, Brendel, Feliciano in free agency. I"m betting that's probably the first thing they do, aside from trying to sign Aiyuk to a long term deal in the offseason.

As for the draft, A lot of draft nerd threads point out to a loaded OLine crop this year - I'm hoping the 49ers double and possibly triple dip on the OLine crop this next year. I don't think they need to trade up to get a Trent Williams 2.0. First of all they have Foerster who's done well with developing Banks, McKivitz, Brendel, and found Feliciano. I"m comfortable if they draft Trent's replacement in in Day two, as long as Trent buys them time to develop that day two draft pick in a year or two down the road - when Trent hangs 'em up.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

I would love that. However, They've been impressive finding free agent OLine gems in Compton, Brunskill, Brendel, Feliciano in free agency. I"m betting that's probably the first thing they do, aside from trying to sign Aiyuk to a long term deal in the offseason.

As for the draft, A lot of draft nerd threads point out to a loaded OLine crop this year - I'm hoping the 49ers double and possibly triple dip on the OLine crop this next year. I don't think they need to trade up to get a Trent Williams 2.0. First of all they have Foerster who's done well with developing Banks, McKivitz, Brendel, and found Feliciano. I"m comfortable if they draft Trent's replacement in in Day two, as long as Trent buys them time to develop that day two draft pick in a year or two down the road - when Trent hangs 'em up.

Last year we kept holding our breath for an Olineman to be drafted early and it never happened. At least we got the early round kickers out of the way.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Last year we kept holding our breath for an Olineman to be drafted early and it never happened. At least we got the early round kickers out of the way.

This year there's a better group though. None of the OTs they passed on are gonna be missed long term imo.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

I would love that. However, They've been impressive finding free agent OLine gems in Compton, Brunskill, Brendel, Feliciano in free agency. I"m betting that's probably the first thing they do, aside from trying to sign Aiyuk to a long term deal in the offseason.

As for the draft, A lot of draft nerd threads point out to a loaded OLine crop this year - I'm hoping the 49ers double and possibly triple dip on the OLine crop this next year. I don't think they need to trade up to get a Trent Williams 2.0. First of all they have Foerster who's done well with developing Banks, McKivitz, Brendel, and found Feliciano. I"m comfortable if they draft Trent's replacement in in Day two, as long as Trent buys them time to develop that day two draft pick in a year or two down the road - when Trent hangs 'em up.

You can add Laken Tomlinson and Mike Person to this list.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes true, but by bringing a talent to Trent Williams to learn during the season, it could still happen.

Better now than when Trent is gone.

Joe Staley mentered McGlinchey, didn't really work out. The prospect has to be good.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
We should trade up for this guy.

Tyler Guyton

Oklahoma · OT · Senior

Guyton is a tall, long and rangy right tackle. He doesn't have a ton of starting experience (15 total starts over four years at Oklahoma and TCU), but he is very gifted. In pass pro, he explodes out of his stance and has the range to cover up speed rushers. He is very fluid and smooth in his redirect versus counter rushers. He plays with excellent knee bend. His problems arise versus power rushers, where he can look a little flimsy up top and get tugged/pulled. He has very good awareness for someone with limited reps. In the run game, he moves like a tight end. He can reach and cut off easily, excelling in space. He is exceptional as a puller because of his athleticism and balance on the perimeter. He does a great job staying off the ground. Overall, Guyton is still a work in progress, but he has elite traits and tools.
We'll most likely have the 31st or 32n'd pick in the first round. That's Basically a high second round pick. I'd love for the 49ers to trade down that pick and get multiple day two picks and get some depth that the bottom feeding teams will poach from us. Guy's like Chase Young, Celine Ferrel, Jauan Jennings, Pryor, Feliciano etc... I think will be poached, or if retained will take a chunk of limited 2024 cap space. Got to have a good draft and hit on some starters (hopefully one or two on the OLine squad) this next draft to keep that Superbowl window open.

I hope we can retain Aiyuk, but he's going to command premium cap space. It's going to be really hard to retain him, but if anybody can do it -- ShanaLynch can do it.

Depends on the available talent. At 31 or 32, you are hoping a better talent has fallen or its a guy so good you want the 5th year option. If it isn't that strong OR we can get a starter on the OL at the top of the 2nd, while picking up another 3rd, I'm all for it. Everything should be on the table, but I'd rather not a trade up.
[ Edited by LifelongNiner on Jan 31, 2024 at 4:24 PM ]
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Who is Chris Foerster, as an offensive line coach, in my opinion? Did he not realize that the offensive lines needed to be trained on how to protect our quarterback?

I don't know… but he needs a 24/7 chaperone the minute they land in Vegas

OMG.
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