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Originally posted by NYniner85:

THought he played sax for Springsteen
So, would it be hard to coach Alvin Kamara to over 500 yards rushing in college? I think it would be harder to hold him to 500 yards. Kidding....probably a good young hire.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:

What you have been doing since Sunday. Never spent one minute this season wanting the 9ers to win. Pretty sad.

His pathetically lame new "Good enough" line is cringe.

What kinda weirdo tries to set the framework for a new line (because his other dumb lines have failed) day after day before his team's SB?

You really can't make this stuff up. If someone knows him personally,...please check on him.
[ Edited by random49er on Feb 15, 2024 at 7:16 AM ]
OLine is good but NOT good enough and the whole country saw that.

If KS/JL need to get Super Aggressive in getting it fixed instead of searching for retreads and bargain basement draft picks.

And the beat reporters should be hammering them incessantly about it.

Enough is enough - Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit showed the weakness big time.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
OLine is good but NOT good enough and the whole country saw that.

If KS/JL need to get Super Aggressive in getting it fixed instead of searching for retreads and bargain basement draft picks.

And the beat reporters should be hammering them incessantly about it.

Enough is enough - Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit showed the weakness big time.

I wouldn't even say its good. The OL is good in the same way the defense was "good." Some stats might paint a pretty picture but when push comes to shove, it falls apart.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
OLine is good but NOT good enough and the whole country saw that.

Everyone but a few in this thread 8 years running. But they're still posting, dead on that hill. LOL

At least now we have a full audience to talk about the OL and unit PP in objectivity again.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
OLine is good but NOT good enough and the whole country saw that.

If KS/JL need to get Super Aggressive in getting it fixed instead of searching for retreads and bargain basement draft picks.

And the beat reporters should be hammering them incessantly about it.

Enough is enough - Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit showed the weakness big time.

I wouldn't even say its good. The OL is good in the same way the defense was "good." Some stats might paint a pretty picture but when push comes to shove, it falls apart.

When it matters and the talent needs to stand on its own, it's game over. Long pattern of this, no matter the QB, defense, ST, TO's, and any other pivot topic one can come up with.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 15, 2024 at 7:56 AM ]
Aside from Trent, they went cheap on the O-Line and it shows. You get what you put into it. And they got mediocrity, at best.
Originally posted by Schulzy:
Aside from Trent, they went cheap on the O-Line and it shows. You get what you put into it. And they got mediocrity, at best.

TBH even Trent got his butt handed to him on a few plays. He was rusty in the 1st quarter. That being said the rest suck.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
OLine is good but NOT good enough and the whole country saw that.

Then CMC isint good enough either,...since we can base everything on 1 game. Because the OL was surprisingly dominating to start the game off and he fumbled the likely-winning TD drive away.

We can play these silly games till the cows come home but tackle was in need of a talent upgrade either way. Pinning the loss squarely on the OL this last game is one of those "I feel better if I believe this" train of thoughts.

Totally void of reality.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I wouldn't even say its good.

Brandon Thorn says it's the 5th best in the NFL. Not sure why it even matters though.

This last game was a TEAM LOSS.

I know some of you don't wanna face reality just yeat but if we're talking about throwing the football,... then late in close games, Patrick Mahomes is the guy over Brock 10 times out of 10,....and IDC WHAT kind of OLine you give Brock.

Maybe that will change as years pass but Brock is mostly a timing and "in-sync" passer; that's his strength. His legs is a strength. And that is going to pretty much show up early in games and sometimes max out early. Ad-lib throwing and late clutch throws is NOT a strength just yet,..and we saw that the entire playoff run pretty much.

The team with the better QB won the game late. I can blame different positions (OL, DL, LB, DB, etc.) with hindsight nitpicking while avoiding their good plays but what is the point?
[ Edited by random49er on Feb 15, 2024 at 8:45 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I wouldn't even say its good.

Brandon Thorn says it's the 5th best in the NFL. Not sure why it even matters though.

This last game was a TEAM LOSS.

That's why rankings are subjective. They aren't garbage as it's obvious some units are better than others throughout a season etc, but there's a million variables and scheme's etc.

Going into this game the overall consensus from the fanbase was the o-line is our main fear on offense and run defense.....

I was told the coaches would absolutely make sure Chris Jones was accounted for and wouldn't beat us again. This mofo wasn't even blocked on the most important pass of some guys lives and blew up two other huge plays. You may argue well he's a HOF, but then that means he's the one guy who should be accounted for and doubled every damn play. Inexcusable.

You aren't wrong in saying the team loss part, but imo if Purdy had better protection we would have won regardless of all the other mistakes and that infuriates me since most of us were begging them to try and upgrade the line last off season and for years.
Our last 1st Rd Tackle signed with another team and our highest draft pick this last draft was basically a 4th rounder.

We were going to focus on the OL in later drafts EITHER WAY,...whether we won or loss.

I didn't see anyone here clamoring for resigning McGlinchey during the last season he had here to prove his worth. The season right after that -- again -- we had a 4th rounder TOPS.

So the timeline for most of the OL whining & criticism just doesn't add up.
[ Edited by random49er on Feb 15, 2024 at 8:51 AM ]
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
That's why rankings are subjective. They aren't garbage as it's obvious some units are better than others throughout a season etc, but there's a million variables and scheme's etc.

Exactly. They are excellent reference points when done by actual subject matter experts and updated weekly per injuries, personnel changes, competition faced, etc.

And as always, they turned out to be as accurate as you'll get. A tier 1 OL nearly got to a Superbowl with Goff at QB. Two Tier 2 OL's with two MVP-caliber QB's faced off in the Superbowl. A tier 1 DL and tier 2 DL faced off in the Superbowl. On balance, the #3 & #4 trench teams faced off in the Superbowl and it took OT for one to win.

How much more accuracy do you need? LOL

The very reasons this OL has never made it to Tier 1 under this regime are the very reasons that cost us in the end...annually.

And after 8 years, everyone can finally see that.

Not a hard concept to follow...except for a few, apparently.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly. They are excellent reference points when done by actual subject matter experts and updated weekly per injuries, personnel changes, competition faced, etc.

And as always, they turned out to be as accurate as you'll get. A tier 1 OL nearly got to a Superbowl with Goff at QB. Two Tier 2 OL's with two MVP-caliber QB's faced off in the Superbowl. A tier 1 DL and tier 2 DL faced off in the Superbowl. On balance, the #3 & #4 trench teams faced off in the Superbowl and it took OT for one to win.

How much more accuracy do you need? LOL

The very reasons this OL has never made it to Tier 1 under this regime are the very reasons that cost us in the end...annually.

And after 8 years, everyone can finally see that.

Not a hard concept to follow...except for a few, apparently.

It's a concept that changes with the wind. That's the issue.

The guy that said BOTH teams that were in the SB COULDN"T win the SB doesn't get to take a victory lap.

If Brock Purdy completes the 3rd and 4 that was open and Moody makes the FG the 9ers O line WOULD HAVE BEEN good enough. Much like the Chiefs O line was good enough because everyone else was able to cover up for them.

This is the year to address the O line in the draft. I expect they will.
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