49ers Offensive Line

It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
is Trent overrated?

I think he is underrated.

All I hear about our O-line is how weak it is, I rarely hear about the once in a lifetime future H.O.F left tackle that we have on that o-line.

When he was out last season the offense was horrible. We couldn't run the ball at all. Its quite scray tbh.

FACTS

I think a lot of people bash the o-line because we only have 1 household name up front. I watched Bill Walsh use this same strategy when he had o-line coach Bobb McKittrick. If we really think about it; Shanahan has gotten to two super bowls using a similar strategy (Coaching up UDFA and late round picks to man the o-line positions).

https://www.mercurynews.com/2010/01/21/san-francisco-49ers-hire-disciple-of-late-bobb-mckittrick/

With that said, our true staple up front (Big Trent) was drafted #4 overall when he came out of college. He is not a typical low round pick, he is the cream of the crop. Shanahan's scheme fits this guy perfectly. I know we want 5 Trent Williams type of O-linemen up front (Similar to the Hogs 1980's or the 1990's Cowboys) but I don't think that is possible in today's football due to the salary cap. Not to mention we would have to consistently draft in the top 5-10 picks to make that happen which is also highly unlikely.

Big $ now goes to QB's & WR's, with that you get one Trent Williams (once in a generation talent) up front on most good teams.

My thought when reading your post is we do not have Bob McKittrick. Some say Scarnecchia(?) was that to Bill in NE all those years.

I figured once we found Brock and he had his damn elbow blown up, they would shift focus to protecting him, but ...nope.

That was a back up TE that missed that block (NFCCG Injury vs Philly) not a O-linemen. So if there was an issue it was scheme related not O-line related.

It was both the line not recognizing Reddick was one on one v with Kroft and you have rest. That was on the right tackle to adjust call a time out whatever to not let that happen however yea that was a back up tight end.

RT calling time outs now? lol

Stop the play or make adjustments. I know you only see one side but in reality your just plain defending the miss assignment of blocking Reddick. Either it's Kyle calling the personnel or a RT not accounting for Reddick. Which one or what's your excuse.

I'm the only one being one sided? lol

i'm not the ignorant one saying the Right tackle should be calling time outs, then hiding under the "because Kyle is the HC!" Schtick once you get called out for it. lol

It seems you are being one sided... you did not answer the question. What's your excuse for a back up tight end on Reddick and why did the play continue.

I don't need to make excuses. 9 out of 10 times that play goes for a TD or big gain.

It probably would have been a TD if Kittle was in which is why it was a bad play with personnel in to block Riddick.

This is a fair take.

Pretty sure Reid called the same play vs the eagles and had their backup TE blocking Riddick.

He did and it worked. Like within the first 5 plays of that Super Bowl. My view is more along the lines of probability. TEs block on those plays all the time, but which would you have more faith in to execute the block? For the record, I'm not one that is mad at Kyle for calling that play.

To Kyle's credit, he took advantage of Reddick selling out as a pass rusher BIG TIME in that December game. I still stand by if Kittle's out there, it's highly unlikely Reddick gets near Brock.

What chaps my hide is that it's really *injuries* that have kept Kyle out of the 🏆 wins. The first Superbowl match between KC, our OLine was missing Richburg and Person had to take on Chris Jones. The next Superbowl match between KC, our OLine was again injured (Feliciano, add in Greenlaw - both out) and again Chris Jones did us in against Burford. In the Kyle Shanahan thread, there's a big debate on whether Kyle is a Superbowl winning coach or not, but really it's been injuries that have prevented him from winning the big one in my opinion.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

I hate to criticize the dude because he's all world, but Trent Williams was awful in the Superbowl. A guy the Chiefs pulled off the practice squad put Trent on skates and straight up whooped his ass. He also whiffed on multiple open-field blocks. I know this is blasphemy to say, but Trent has low-key been a liability in the playoffs the last few years. I still think the 49ers beat the Rams in the 2021 NFCC if Trent wasn't in the game playing with one leg and zero ability to drive off the ball.

My biggest concern going into 2024 isn't so much the individual play but rather the alarming number of protection busts. They happened way too often last season, and it was one of the main issues in the SB with the protection. Obviously, this starts with Jake Brendel and the line's communication. If they can remedy this issue, that alone will help a lot in 2024.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Ah I see, thanks. By that same logic the naysayers can say we also lost two superbowls as well lol.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Ah I see, thanks. By that same logic the naysayers can say we also lost two superbowls as well lol.

Either way, you can't make it that far if the line is bad is the point.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Ah I see, thanks. By that same logic the naysayers can say we also lost two superbowls as well lol.

Either way, you can't make it that far if the line is bad is the point.

I am in the middle on that. I think Kyle can scheme around weaknesses insanely well, but to a point. So when you get towards the end talent shows up regardless of how much scheme you can muster up etc.

I think we said it before. This is how this regime goes about their business, hard to argue much of it, but o line is the main area we all debate on and nobody will complain if they ever invest more heavily into it either.

I really hope he surprises us and throws Puni out there.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Ah I see, thanks. By that same logic the naysayers can say we also lost two superbowls as well lol.

Either way, you can't make it that far if the line is bad is the point.

I am in the middle on that. I think Kyle can scheme around weaknesses insanely well, but to a point. So when you get towards the end talent shows up regardless of how much scheme you can muster up etc.

I think we said it before. This is how this regime goes about their business, hard to argue much of it, but o line is the main area we all debate on and nobody will complain if they ever invest more heavily into it either.

I really hope he surprises us and throws Puni out there.

Why would you be in the middle on that if Kyle is making water into wine with the OL? That would make him a miracle worker ?

also when you say in the end, talent shows. our OL wasn't to blame for our SB loss. No CMC fumble, No punt turnover and No Greenlaw jumping like a mad man nullifies a close game at the end. Meaning Chris Jones isn't a factor. Ball security was the issue,

as for business, like I said in my post above and the details on how much we invested a few pages back. We done a great job at building OL with where we are now and where we started. Drafting late will not get you the top consensus pick, unless you trade up.

our picks look good this year but they are the same as years before (Later round guys). As a fan base we just need to be patient while we keep stacking wins and finally get over the hump.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Ah I see, thanks. By that same logic the naysayers can say we also lost two superbowls as well lol.

Either way, you can't make it that far if the line is bad is the point.

I am in the middle on that. I think Kyle can scheme around weaknesses insanely well, but to a point. So when you get towards the end talent shows up regardless of how much scheme you can muster up etc.

I think we said it before. This is how this regime goes about their business, hard to argue much of it, but o line is the main area we all debate on and nobody will complain if they ever invest more heavily into it either.

I really hope he surprises us and throws Puni out there.

Why would you be in the middle on that if Kyle is making water into wine with the OL? That would make him a miracle worker ?

also when you say in the end, talent shows. our OL wasn't to blame for our SB loss. No CMC fumble, No punt turnover and No Greenlaw jumping like a mad man nullifies a close game at the end. Meaning Chris Jones isn't a factor. Ball security was the issue,

as for business, like I said in my post above and the details on how much we invested a few pages back. We done a great job at building OL with where we are now and where we started. Drafting late will not get you the top consensus pick, unless you trade up.

our picks look good this year but they are the same as years before (Later round guys). As a fan base we just need to be patient while we keep stacking wins and finally get over the hump.

The o-line didn't help much either in SB. Untimely mistakes are there. Not sure why the football gods don't favor the 49ers anymore.

Unless Kyle starts Puni it's the same line. That's crazy to me since the consensus is this is the weakest part of the roster.

Patience is all we have, it's been 30 years since we last won it all and Kyle is entering year 8 already? Damn.

I said it before, the best hope for me is Purdy, but I'd like to see him behind a wall.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by lamontb:
It's a shaky ass bunch outside of Trent. I just pray for the best. I don't expect pass pro to be any better. Hopefully they actually give Puni a shot at starting. But history tells us they won't unless there is an injury.

A Super Bowl is Shaky now? Lol

What do you mean?

He said the line is shaky outside of Trent, but that outside shakeyness got us to a Super Bowl

We got to the SuperBowl in spite of that shakiness. It's a gamble to assume we can continue to overcome it again.

Football doesn't work in spite.

whats to gamble, 3 NFCCG in a row is proof enough.

Ah I see, thanks. By that same logic the naysayers can say we also lost two superbowls as well lol.

Either way, you can't make it that far if the line is bad is the point.

I am in the middle on that. I think Kyle can scheme around weaknesses insanely well, but to a point. So when you get towards the end talent shows up regardless of how much scheme you can muster up etc.

I think we said it before. This is how this regime goes about their business, hard to argue much of it, but o line is the main area we all debate on and nobody will complain if they ever invest more heavily into it either.

I really hope he surprises us and throws Puni out there.

Why would you be in the middle on that if Kyle is making water into wine with the OL? That would make him a miracle worker ?

also when you say in the end, talent shows. our OL wasn't to blame for our SB loss. No CMC fumble, No punt turnover and No Greenlaw jumping like a mad man nullifies a close game at the end. Meaning Chris Jones isn't a factor. Ball security was the issue,

as for business, like I said in my post above and the details on how much we invested a few pages back. We done a great job at building OL with where we are now and where we started. Drafting late will not get you the top consensus pick, unless you trade up.

our picks look good this year but they are the same as years before (Later round guys). As a fan base we just need to be patient while we keep stacking wins and finally get over the hump.

The o-line didn't help much either in SB. Untimely mistakes are there. Not sure why the football gods don't favor the 49ers anymore.

Unless Kyle starts Puni it's the same line. That's crazy to me since the consensus is this is the weakest part of the roster.

Patience is all we have, it's been 30 years since we last won it all and Kyle is entering year 8 already? Damn.

I said it before, the best hope for me is Purdy, but I'd like to see him behind a wall.

The Chiefs OL wasn't helping the chiefs either. But the most flagged OL wasn't flagged once.

With our roster, no doubt our OL would be up towards the weakest. Our roster is pretty dope

if puni doesn't work out, does that mean we haven't invested? I think not.

Originally posted by Giedi:
What chaps my hide is that it's really *injuries* that have kept Kyle out of the 🏆 wins.

All teams deal with em. Next subject....