49ers Offensive Line

at what point does our Oline coach get some blame..... everyone keeps saying its our players which they're correct, but damn no one talks about our Oline coach.....

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Whether it was them or the play call there were multiple plays today where the Vikings had a defender completely unblocked to the QB. You would think the 49ers would have learned from the last play of the SB but I guess not.

The OL gets exposed against the elite DCs. It was rather complacent to commit to Purdy, look at last season's struggles, and still not prioritize upgrading the OL.

Broken record on this s**t. Our RG is average, and the C, RT are all below average players. Jury still out on Puni. And our LT is closing in on 40. No real development of any players behind these guys. No depth. It's cool though every team has a s**tty o line.

Originally posted by lamontb:
Broken record on this s**t. Our RG is average, and the C, RT are all below average players. Jury still out on Puni. And our LT is closing in on 40. No real development of any players behind these guys. No depth. It's cool though every team has a s**tty o line.

Wait, you call the RG average then proceed to say jury still out on Puni?

I get the philosophy of not prioritizing OL over skill players, as skill players are the guys who put points on the board. Yet you have to be flexible & smart with that philosophy and remember football is still a game that's won in the trenches. You need a better OL than what the Niners have continued to put out there over the Shanahan era.

Currently, Puni looks promising for a rookie, Banks is above average IMO, and you have the dominant Williams who's 36. But being satisfied with Brendel at C and McKivitz at RT is unacceptable, especially on a team with such high hopes and excellent talent on both sides of the ball. You put Brendel and McKivitz vs. quality DL and/or a good scheme and it's immediate trouble where you have to gameplan somehow to accommodate those mismatches, which is a big risk in running an effective (and complex) offense against such teams.

Look at last year's playoff run...every team the Niners faced had far and away a better OL. Green Bay, Detroit, KC...those teams' OL were a big factor in helping them get as far as they did and each were a big factor against the Niners.

The Niners need to do what it takes to finally match up better with its OL vs. quality opposition. I know it's a completely different era, but every one of the Niners' five SB winning teams had good-to-great OLs that controlled things up front. I remember thinking before each of those SBs that the Niners were going to win the battle of the trenches on offense with the OLs they had put together. It was a comforting thought because even back then you knew how important it was for a team with championship aspirations to have a championship-level OL.

Surprised to see Puni get such a low PFF grade. He was one of the 3 lowest graded players on offense.I didn't see much pressure coming from the right side or even up the middle. So it must have been the run blocking grade that really hurt him because I did notice they get alot of good runs to the right in this game.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Broken record on this s**t. Our RG is average, and the C, RT are all below average players. Jury still out on Puni. And our LT is closing in on 40. No real development of any players behind these guys. No depth. It's cool though every team has a s**tty o line.

Wait, you call the RG average then proceed to say jury still out on Puni?

I meant LG was average, My bad.

I watched the line during the game and each of the OL played bad but to me Brendel played the worst. I didn't see proper adjustments to the pass blocking scheme and I noticed he was pancaked on a few plays.

Soft and wet

Hmmm...bad OL play...sounds familiar.

I really hope either we find another OG for next year and slide Puni to center, or Nugent gets to where he needs to be to take over.

Nugent is very technically sound, but his issue is play strength. The thing that showed up on tape in college was that he'd get pushed back easily by power. Granted he could dig in and gather himself, but if he can add around 7-10 pounds of muscle and get stronger with an NFL training program, I think he can easily take over one of the IOL spots next year.

Wouldn't be surprised to see an OL of:

Trent - Burford - Puni - Nugent - McKivitz (wish we could find an upgrade here)

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I really hope either we find another OG for next year and slide Puni to center, or Nugent gets to where he needs to be to take over.

Nugent is very technically sound, but his issue is play strength. The thing that showed up on tape in college was that he'd get pushed back easily by power. Granted he could dig in and gather himself, but if he can add around 7-10 pounds of muscle and get stronger with an NFL training program, I think he can easily take over one of the IOL spots next year.

Wouldn't be surprised to see an OL of:

Trent - Burford - Puni - Nugent - McKivitz (wish we could find an upgrade here)

No he's great at RG and we need that. Just leave him where he is. I would not move him at all. We just need a better Center. So free agent, draft pick or upgrade that grows with our team like Nugent possibly.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I really hope either we find another OG for next year and slide Puni to center, or Nugent gets to where he needs to be to take over.

Nugent is very technically sound, but his issue is play strength. The thing that showed up on tape in college was that he'd get pushed back easily by power. Granted he could dig in and gather himself, but if he can add around 7-10 pounds of muscle and get stronger with an NFL training program, I think he can easily take over one of the IOL spots next year.

Wouldn't be surprised to see an OL of:

Trent - Burford - Puni - Nugent - McKivitz (wish we could find an upgrade here)

If only it could've been Trent-Kingston-Nugent-Puni-McKivitz. But we'll see if Kingston becomes anything. If Burford does work out at LG, then I can live with your line because Purdy can at least step up in the pocket and avoid the f ups by McKivitz lol. We definitely can upgrade if we want to.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

I really hope either we find another OG for next year and slide Puni to center, or Nugent gets to where he needs to be to take over.

Nugent is very technically sound, but his issue is play strength. The thing that showed up on tape in college was that he'd get pushed back easily by power. Granted he could dig in and gather himself, but if he can add around 7-10 pounds of muscle and get stronger with an NFL training program, I think he can easily take over one of the IOL spots next year.

Wouldn't be surprised to see an OL of:

Trent - Burford - Puni - Nugent - McKivitz (wish we could find an upgrade here)

No he's great at RG and we need that. Just leave him where he is. I would not move him at all. We just need a better Center. So free agent, draft pick or upgrade that grows with our team like Nugent possibly.

Yeah I get that, I'm fine with having Nugent compete against Brendel too..
Puni worked at center in the senior bowl and did well so I guess what I'm saying is ultimately, whatever gives us the best five while upgrading center is what I want.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
at what point does our Oline coach get some blame..... everyone keeps saying its our players which they're correct, but damn no one talks about our Oline coach.....

When he has NFL caliber players to coach. Puni and Trent are the exception. The line is trash after that. Pure trash.