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Dec 2, 2024 at 10:53 AM
- leakyfausett
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Ben Bartch was better than Banks has been at any point this year. Not sure what the powers that be see in Banks and Brendel. Jaylon Moore has had two very good game as well.
Dec 2, 2024 at 11:07 AM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Ben Bartch was better than Banks has been at any point this year. Not sure what the powers that be see in Banks and Brendel. Jaylon Moore has had two very good game as well.
Would be nice if Moore could grab one of the OT spots going fwd.
Dec 2, 2024 at 11:13 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Ben Bartch was better than Banks has been at any point this year. Not sure what the powers that be see in Banks and Brendel. Jaylon Moore has had two very good game as well.
I do wonder how much of that was due to the conditions and both teams struggling to mount a pass rush. But I don't see Banks having a future here, or Brendel so I'd be happy to see them move some guys around, try some new people in the starting lineup.
Dec 2, 2024 at 11:50 AM
- OnTheClock
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Moore should be the starting RT. I will continue to say this year after year. He is just plain better than McKivitz and shouldn't be stuck as a backup for the sole reason of our clown OL coach only wanting him on the left.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 2, 2024 at 11:58 AM ]
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:20 PM
- leakyfausett
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Ben Bartch was better than Banks has been at any point this year. Not sure what the powers that be see in Banks and Brendel. Jaylon Moore has had two very good game as well.
I do wonder how much of that was due to the conditions and both teams struggling to mount a pass rush. But I don't see Banks having a future here, or Brendel so I'd be happy to see them move some guys around, try some new people in the starting lineup.
It was his run blocking that stuck out to me. Moore also has had two very good games and looks comfortable.
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:24 PM
- leakyfausett
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Moore should be the starting RT. I will continue to say this year after year. He is just plain better than McKivitz and shouldn't be stuck as a backup for the sole reason of our clown OL coach only wanting him on the left.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
We definitely need a new Center. Puni has been very good. McKivitz is having a decent season. I would love to find Moore a spot because he looks the part. Williams is still good when not hurt. Banks and Brendel can let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:33 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by leakyfausett:Williams might not be back for the season.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Moore should be the starting RT. I will continue to say this year after year. He is just plain better than McKivitz and shouldn't be stuck as a backup for the sole reason of our clown OL coach only wanting him on the left.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
We definitely need a new Center. Puni has been very good. McKivitz is having a decent season. I would love to find Moore a spot because he looks the part. Williams is still good when not hurt. Banks and Brendel can let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
Maybe
Moore - Zakeji - Bart - Puni - Mck
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:43 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:Williams might not be back for the season.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Moore should be the starting RT. I will continue to say this year after year. He is just plain better than McKivitz and shouldn't be stuck as a backup for the sole reason of our clown OL coach only wanting him on the left.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
We definitely need a new Center. Puni has been very good. McKivitz is having a decent season. I would love to find Moore a spot because he looks the part. Williams is still good when not hurt. Banks and Brendel can let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
Maybe
Moore - Zakeji - Bart - Puni - Mck
At this point I'd just sit Williams (along with guys like Warner) for rest of the season. Let them get rested and healed up and hopefully Moore can continue to play well seize a spot going into the offseason
Dec 3, 2024 at 9:24 AM
- Niner4ever
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Prioritize this group in the off-season, enough already.
Dec 3, 2024 at 7:58 PM
- leakyfausett
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:Williams might not be back for the season.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Moore should be the starting RT. I will continue to say this year after year. He is just plain better than McKivitz and shouldn't be stuck as a backup for the sole reason of our clown OL coach only wanting him on the left.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
We definitely need a new Center. Puni has been very good. McKivitz is having a decent season. I would love to find Moore a spot because he looks the part. Williams is still good when not hurt. Banks and Brendel can let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
Maybe
Moore - Zakeji - Bart - Puni - Mck
At this point I'd just sit Williams (along with guys like Warner) for rest of the season. Let them get rested and healed up and hopefully Moore can continue to play well seize a spot going into the offseason
I posted in another thread that they should sit Warner, Bosa, Williams, and Greenlaw. There is no need to push through injuries for these guys. Play some younger guys and see what we have.
Dec 4, 2024 at 2:49 AM
- random49er
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Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Prioritize this group in the off-season, enough already.
Prioritizing a position wont necessarily make it better, though. There may be a good amount of swings and misses before you truly get what you want. And at that point, what will the effect of less prioritization of other positions look like?
Just something to think about because the tone here seems to always be that so long as we prioritize a position (like OL), we're winning a Lombardi in a year or 2.
Dec 4, 2024 at 3:53 AM
- babarvaart
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Originally posted by leakyfausett:
I posted in another thread that they should sit Warner, Bosa, Williams, and Greenlaw. There is no need to push through injuries for these guys. Play some younger guys and see what we have.
tough to sell that to the players, bonus incentives and all that.
Dec 4, 2024 at 6:33 AM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:Williams might not be back for the season.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Moore should be the starting RT. I will continue to say this year after year. He is just plain better than McKivitz and shouldn't be stuck as a backup for the sole reason of our clown OL coach only wanting him on the left.
For this year, I'd consider trying a line of:
TRENT - MOORE - BARTCH - PUNI - MCKIVITZ
If you ask me, for the future, if they insist on McKivitz starting, try him at guard instead. He's played there before. But IMO he's better as a backup swing.
IMO we should draft 4 OL in the coming off-season. 2 OT, 2 IOL.
We definitely need a new Center. Puni has been very good. McKivitz is having a decent season. I would love to find Moore a spot because he looks the part. Williams is still good when not hurt. Banks and Brendel can let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
Maybe
Moore - Zakeji - Bart - Puni - Mck
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Dec 4, 2024 at 6:36 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Ben Bartch was better than Banks has been at any point this year. Not sure what the powers that be see in Banks and Brendel. Jaylon Moore has had two very good game as well.
I do wonder how much of that was due to the conditions and both teams struggling to mount a pass rush. But I don't see Banks having a future here, or Brendel so I'd be happy to see them move some guys around, try some new people in the starting lineup.
Banks will be gone imo. I think he's been battling injuries all yr, no?
Dec 4, 2024 at 1:03 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Center is just disgusting.
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