Colin Kaepernick Thread

LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.


Luck threw 4700 yards, 40 tds and 16 ints. almost 300 yards a game

Kap threw 3300 yards, 19 tds and 10 ints. 210 yards a game

ill take 1400 yards and 20+ tds for 6 picks.

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.

Only if you have a very shallow understanding of the game.

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.


Luck threw 4700 yards, 40 tds and 16 ints. almost 300 yards a game

Kap threw 3300 yards, 19 tds and 10 ints. 210 yards a game

ill take 1400 yards and 20+ tds for 6 picks.

I will take kaep and lucks division all day

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The problem last year was that the HC just built up Kaep big time..

saying all kinda crap like how Kaep knows his offense inside out and all he needed do is send him a play and Kaep will know what to do..

suddenly, Gonzopernick believed the hyped as well, thinking and acting like he's Peyton w/the pre-snap reads on defenses.. formation changes.. reading what really isn't there.. audibles.. then the clock will run out, or just out-smart himself on doing all those which often resulted into nothing..

This year, I hope they just made the offense simple, and let him take what the defense gives him.. he's not ready to take what he wants "per say", just make sure to have a good and a balance offensive game plan and he'll be fine..

Other then the fact that they have heavily utilized formational and presnap player movement ever since harbaugh got there, and the QB always had to read the defense and audible to the right play, and that play clock issues have been here since 2011 because of all the things that I just listed. But, yeah other then that youre right. Its just Kaep's big ego, not the injuries to the oline, lack of a running game, no TE production, slow Wr's, or bad play calling. I wonder if you actually have watched the niners prior to last year, or do you just forget everything you ever saw from prior seasons?

Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.

Only if you have a very shallow understanding of the game.

point me to any GM/Coach in the league who would take Kap over Luck

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.


Luck threw 4700 yards, 40 tds and 16 ints. almost 300 yards a game

Kap threw 3300 yards, 19 tds and 10 ints. 210 yards a game

ill take 1400 yards and 20+ tds for 6 picks.

I will take kaep and lucks division all day

ok you do that!

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.

Only if you have a very shallow understanding of the game.

Huh, I thought he did well for a guy that received the play with less than six seconds on the play clock, a DT in his face from the point if the snap, and executing a play the defense knows coming. But hey, my understanding isn't blissfully shallow

Originally posted by 9moon:
Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

For the sake of my own reputation as a poster on these boards, I want to make clear that I don't agree with this dude.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
For the sake of my own reputation as a poster on these boards, I want to make clear that I don't agree with this dude.

I don't even understand half of what he's talking about to even form an opinion on whether I agree or disagree with him.

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.


Luck threw 4700 yards, 40 tds and 16 ints. almost 300 yards a game

Kap threw 3300 yards, 19 tds and 10 ints. 210 yards a game

ill take 1400 yards and 20+ tds for 6 picks.

I will take kaep and lucks division all day

ok you do that!

you dont even know why i said that

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
For the sake of my own reputation as a poster on these boards, I want to make clear that I don't agree with this dude.

I don't even understand half of what he's talking about to even form an opinion on whether I agree or disagree with him.

That's why you shoulda stayed in high school instead of tagging on busses my friend..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
For the sake of my own reputation as a poster on these boards, I want to make clear that I don't agree with this dude.

I don't even understand half of what he's talking about to even form an opinion on whether I agree or disagree with him.

That's why you shoulda stayed in high school instead of tagging on busses my friend..

Just cause you post stupid fallacy s**t ..you want to call someone else out ?...look at your post...that spells special ed

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Save the personal attacks for PM. Thanks.



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Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Thanks Buck! The reason I say that is he gets too much credit for really accomplishing nothing while playing indoors for 8 games, in a crappy division against crap teams. He gets to the playoffs and promptly s**ts the bed every year. The continue to tell us how great he is yet he's done NOTHING great.

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To be fair, he has made it one game further in the playoffs each year. Hard to say that he "promptly s**ts the bed every year" when you look at the trend. He has had some bad playoff games, but he's also put up some unreal numbers. And he's still young.

Edit: I see crabman82 made this exact same point in the Colts thread. Feel free to disregard or hash it out over there. This is the Kap thread, after all.

I agree that being fair is important.

Given the similarities between Luck and Kaepernick, at least in their Red Zone stats, I would suggest that many posters do not seem very willing to extend that fairness to Kaepernick.

But, make no mistake. Kaepernick, and Luck for that matter, needs to improve his game.

I think, and hope, that Kaepernick and the 49er offense will be much better in the coming year.

I do not really care one whit how Luck and the Colt offense do in the coming year.

If Kap and Luck are similar, and Luck is overrated, does that mean Kap is overrated by some of the over-the-top guys in this thread?

II am not exactly sure who the "over-the-top guys" are, but I do not think "they" are necessarily supporters of Kaepernick.
But, nevertheless, some of them, by definition it would seem, must overrate Kaepernick.

I am sure that some posters feel that I overrate Kaepernick. But, I do not think that I spend much time, if any, attacking quarterbacks from other teams.

The 49er offense last year was not very good. Kaepernick contributed to the team's offensive woes, and hopefully will play better in the coming year. The fact that Kaepernick focused on improving his quarterback skills this off-season seems to indicate that he also feels that he needs to improve.

But, when we look at the problems in the 49er offense last year, it is absolutely clear that the lack of good blocking, dropped passes, and play calling were major factors in the disaster that was the 49er offense. Kaepernick was part of the problem, but only one part of the problem.

I cannot wait to see what the coming year has to bring.

I willing acknowledge that I have a bias in favor of 49er players, but I do not think that my pro-49er bias is very extensive, and given that this is a 49er forum I do not think having a pro-49er bias is all that surprising.

Anyway, on to the coming year.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The problem last year was that the HC just built up Kaep big time..

saying all kinda crap like how Kaep knows his offense inside out and all he needed do is send him a play and Kaep will know what to do..

suddenly, Gonzopernick believed the hyped as well, thinking and acting like he's Peyton w/the pre-snap reads on defenses.. formation changes.. reading what really isn't there.. audibles.. then the clock will run out, or just out-smart himself on doing all those which often resulted into nothing..

This year, I hope they just made the offense simple, and let him take what the defense gives him.. he's not ready to take what he wants "per say", just make sure to have a good and a balance offensive game plan and he'll be fine..

Other then the fact that they have heavily utilized formational and presnap player movement ever since harbaugh got there, and the QB always had to read the defense and audible to the right play, and that play clock issues have been here since 2011 because of all the things that I just listed. But, yeah other then that youre right. Its just Kaep's big ego, not the injuries to the oline, lack of a running game, no TE production, slow Wr's, or bad play calling. I wonder if you actually have watched the niners prior to last year, or do you just forget everything you ever saw from prior seasons?

Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

First off I don't like crabtree, especially not since he has been such a diva this last year.

You may watch but you dont pay attention, EVEN ALEX SMITH MADE PLAY CALLS AND ADJUSTMENTS AT THE LINE, THAT IS PART OF THE SYSTEM. Not sure what you dont get about that? What proof do you have that Kap was trying to act like Peyton? The presnap stuff is what Jim Harbaugh does and has done with his QB's. You say you watch everything but you are blaming it solely on Kap.

Niner fans have been complaining about the play calling for years with Greg roman, who I thought did a great job in the 2012 playoffs up until the last couple plays of that superbowl but has been streaky at best since. So what your saying is play calling has never been an issue, Greg Roman is fine and its all Kaep? Please make that statement.

Its Kap's problem that his probowl Te from the year prior held out and then immediately got injured and didn't produce the rest of the season? Yeah he should have just healed both Vance and Vernon, lets just blame that one on him. Vernon was also his only deep threat, with no deep threat to open it up it completelty changed how defenses played us. We had no one to keep them honest. But your probably just going to complain that Kap should have made his receivers faster. He did get a great connection on short routes to his Number 1 in Boldin, and crabtree was garbage last season, reason why no teams offered him a big deal and he is playing on a prove it deal right now.

Its fine if you just dont like Kaep thats your opinion, but stop making statements that flat out have no logical or factual basis.