Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The problem last year was that the HC just built up Kaep big time..

saying all kinda crap like how Kaep knows his offense inside out and all he needed do is send him a play and Kaep will know what to do..

suddenly, Gonzopernick believed the hyped as well, thinking and acting like he's Peyton w/the pre-snap reads on defenses.. formation changes.. reading what really isn't there.. audibles.. then the clock will run out, or just out-smart himself on doing all those which often resulted into nothing..

This year, I hope they just made the offense simple, and let him take what the defense gives him.. he's not ready to take what he wants "per say", just make sure to have a good and a balance offensive game plan and he'll be fine..

Other then the fact that they have heavily utilized formational and presnap player movement ever since harbaugh got there, and the QB always had to read the defense and audible to the right play, and that play clock issues have been here since 2011 because of all the things that I just listed. But, yeah other then that youre right. Its just Kaep's big ego, not the injuries to the oline, lack of a running game, no TE production, slow Wr's, or bad play calling. I wonder if you actually have watched the niners prior to last year, or do you just forget everything you ever saw from prior seasons?

Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

First off I don't like crabtree, especially not since he has been such a diva this last year.

You may watch but you dont pay attention, EVEN ALEX SMITH MADE PLAY CALLS AND ADJUSTMENTS AT THE LINE, THAT IS PART OF THE SYSTEM. Not sure what you dont get about that? What proof do you have that Kap was trying to act like Peyton? The presnap stuff is what Jim Harbaugh does and has done with his QB's. You say you watch everything but you are blaming it solely on Kap.

Niner fans have been complaining about the play calling for years with Greg roman, who I thought did a great job in the 2012 playoffs up until the last couple plays of that superbowl but has been streaky at best since. So what your saying is play calling has never been an issue, Greg Roman is fine and its all Kaep? Please make that statement.

Its Kap's problem that his probowl Te from the year prior held out and then immediately got injured and didn't produce the rest of the season? Yeah he should have just healed both Vance and Vernon, lets just blame that one on him. Vernon was also his only deep threat, with no deep threat to open it up it completelty changed how defenses played us. We had no one to keep them honest. But your probably just going to complain that Kap should have made his receivers faster. He did get a great connection on short routes to his Number 1 in Boldin, and crabtree was garbage last season, reason why no teams offered him a big deal and he is playing on a prove it deal right now.

Its fine if you just dont like Kaep thats your opinion, but stop making statements that flat out have no logical or factual basis.

What? You never heard of pretzel logic?...

Originally posted by thl408:
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Save the personal attacks for PM. Thanks.



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So its ok to attack someone on pm instead of the boards? Man i would love to give sum of these posters a piece of my mind.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by thl408:

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Save the personal attacks for PM. Thanks.



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So its ok to attack someone on pm instead of the boards? Man i would love to give sum of these posters a piece of my mind.

You still can get warned, TO and banned

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by thl408:
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Save the personal attacks for PM. Thanks.



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So its ok to attack someone on pm instead of the boards? Man i would love to give sum of these posters a piece of my mind.

You still can get warned, TO and banned

Ahhh man u can't have any fun around here

It's ok guys, he can twist a pineapple in half

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Thanks Buck! The reason I say that is he gets too much credit for really accomplishing nothing while playing indoors for 8 games, in a crappy division against crap teams. He gets to the playoffs and promptly s**ts the bed every year. The continue to tell us how great he is yet he's done NOTHING great.

To be fair, he has made it one game further in the playoffs each year. Hard to say that he "promptly s**ts the bed every year" when you look at the trend. He has had some bad playoff games, but he's also put up some unreal numbers. And he's still young.

Edit: I see crabman82 made this exact same point in the Colts thread. Feel free to disregard or hash it out over there. This is the Kap thread, after all.

This issue and reason for the post is he gets credit from webzone posters for nothing and Kaep gets s**t on from the same posters even though he's played better against better teams in the same moments.

Right. Lot's of posters around here are careful to be fair when discussing Luck. With Kaepernick, not so much.

That cuts both ways. Lots of other posters around here are always willing to give Kap a pass and are happy to pile on coaching or the O line or other aspects of the team. They then turn around and dump on other QBs around the league (Luck and Wilson being common targets) for a bad play or performance. You'll never see them acknowledge the inconsistency of their criticisms, though.

If you can't see that it cuts both ways, then I don't think it's worth continuing this discussion.

Edit: The point of my post was to correct a misleading statement. If you think that getting further into the playoffs every year is "promptly s**tting the bed," please explain. Fact transcends fandom for some of us.

s**tting the bed is 12 INTs and 9 Tds in the playoffs.

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
LOL you guys are too much. Kap is nowhere near Luck's level.

Only if you have a very shallow understanding of the game.

point me to any GM/Coach in the league who would take Kap over Luck

Point to me ANY GM that would take Luck's playoff performances over Kaeps......

Great, Kap broke the new RB's thumb. Still can't dial it back and put any damn touch on his throws.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Great, Kap broke the new RB's thumb. Still can't dial it back and put any damn touch on his throws.

I'm going to reserve judgement on his touch passes until I see a game. According to Bush, they're going to be running swings and screens, so I'm sure there is touch in play. The time will come in games when Kap has to fire it in there. You don't really want the first time a receiver or back sees that fastball to be in a game. Just like with Elway, Farvre and Rodgers, they've got to learn to catch that fastball when he throws it. I agree with anyone who wants to see more touch passes this year, but I still like the fact that Kaepernick can fire it in there when he has to. Last year, Boldin said in one interview that the fastball was a "huge advantage" because it gives him time to turn and react.

And BTW, Davis didn't break his thumb. From the article:

"Davis is participating in Thursday afternoon's practice, and showing
no signs of the thumb injury, even when catching Kaepernick passes in
warm ups."

It'll be interesting to see how Kaep does this year.

You could make an argument that he has been able to "hide" behind the defense and Gore for the last 2 years (save the playoffs), but that might not be the case now.

Eric Mangini will coach his butt off, but I'm not sure the defense doesn't take a step back. The optimists are counting on a lot of unknowns and the odds are that not every player is going to pan out. Plus team success a lot of the time comes down to luck.

If Colin plays like he did when he first became the starter, the 49ers will be there at the end (barring injury).

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The problem last year was that the HC just built up Kaep big time..

saying all kinda crap like how Kaep knows his offense inside out and all he needed do is send him a play and Kaep will know what to do..

suddenly, Gonzopernick believed the hyped as well, thinking and acting like he's Peyton w/the pre-snap reads on defenses.. formation changes.. reading what really isn't there.. audibles.. then the clock will run out, or just out-smart himself on doing all those which often resulted into nothing..

This year, I hope they just made the offense simple, and let him take what the defense gives him.. he's not ready to take what he wants "per say", just make sure to have a good and a balance offensive game plan and he'll be fine..

Other then the fact that they have heavily utilized formational and presnap player movement ever since harbaugh got there, and the QB always had to read the defense and audible to the right play, and that play clock issues have been here since 2011 because of all the things that I just listed. But, yeah other then that youre right. Its just Kaep's big ego, not the injuries to the oline, lack of a running game, no TE production, slow Wr's, or bad play calling. I wonder if you actually have watched the niners prior to last year, or do you just forget everything you ever saw from prior seasons?

Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

Yet you could not remember that Wilhoite had lined up as a starter with Bowman on multiple occasions

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The problem last year was that the HC just built up Kaep big time..

saying all kinda crap like how Kaep knows his offense inside out and all he needed do is send him a play and Kaep will know what to do..

suddenly, Gonzopernick believed the hyped as well, thinking and acting like he's Peyton w/the pre-snap reads on defenses.. formation changes.. reading what really isn't there.. audibles.. then the clock will run out, or just out-smart himself on doing all those which often resulted into nothing..

This year, I hope they just made the offense simple, and let him take what the defense gives him.. he's not ready to take what he wants "per say", just make sure to have a good and a balance offensive game plan and he'll be fine..

Other then the fact that they have heavily utilized formational and presnap player movement ever since harbaugh got there, and the QB always had to read the defense and audible to the right play, and that play clock issues have been here since 2011 because of all the things that I just listed. But, yeah other then that youre right. Its just Kaep's big ego, not the injuries to the oline, lack of a running game, no TE production, slow Wr's, or bad play calling. I wonder if you actually have watched the niners prior to last year, or do you just forget everything you ever saw from prior seasons?

Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

Yet you could not remember that Wilhoite had lined up as a starter with Bowman on multiple occasions

He thinks Willis and bowman were playing together last year...yup never missed a game

Originally posted by eastie:
What? You never heard of pretzel logic?...

Yes, but Ricky lost my number so I don't have it anymore!

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by 9moon:
The problem last year was that the HC just built up Kaep big time..

saying all kinda crap like how Kaep knows his offense inside out and all he needed do is send him a play and Kaep will know what to do..

suddenly, Gonzopernick believed the hyped as well, thinking and acting like he's Peyton w/the pre-snap reads on defenses.. formation changes.. reading what really isn't there.. audibles.. then the clock will run out, or just out-smart himself on doing all those which often resulted into nothing..

This year, I hope they just made the offense simple, and let him take what the defense gives him.. he's not ready to take what he wants "per say", just make sure to have a good and a balance offensive game plan and he'll be fine..

Other then the fact that they have heavily utilized formational and presnap player movement ever since harbaugh got there, and the QB always had to read the defense and audible to the right play, and that play clock issues have been here since 2011 because of all the things that I just listed. But, yeah other then that youre right. Its just Kaep's big ego, not the injuries to the oline, lack of a running game, no TE production, slow Wr's, or bad play calling. I wonder if you actually have watched the niners prior to last year, or do you just forget everything you ever saw from prior seasons?

Oh, I haven't missed a 49er game on TV since the KC Joe Montana Duel, but I do have that recorded on VHS...

but yeah, other than all you've listed, it's just KAEPs big ego...

OL injuries - even before this unfortunate event happened, Kaep would always think that he's Peyton Manning when it comes to pre-snap read.. Don't you remember the SUPER BOWL pass to your favorite 49er playef of all time in CRABTREE??

Lack of Runing game - my goodness, he's the QB of the team, if he feels like our RBs been suckin, then maybe he needs to step up and talk to the coaches that maybe, just maybe we need to use a different back, or design a new play or two and promise not to change or audible out of it..

TE production and Slow WRs - as slow as they may be, it's KAEPs problem as a QB that he can NOT throw a simple slant, simple touch, and is just inlove with the idea of beating the odds anytime of the day when and if he "sees Crab One on One against Anybody"...

OH, AND YEAH, BAD PLAY CALLING - last but not the least... HOW COME NO ONE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PLAY CALLING WHEN KAEP WAS RUNNING ALL OVER GREEN BAY... SAINTS... ATLANTA... and WINNING?? all of a sudden, it's the play calling??

The Seahawks offense seems to be moving in a different direction when Russell Wilson ain't the QB, is that because of BAD play calling???

Yet you could not remember that Wilhoite had lined up as a starter with Bowman on multiple occasions

GOTEEEEMMMMM

so dumbbb.. i cant believe you guys sometimes...

wasn't this argument yesterday??? did it take you guys 24 hours to find something else to say??

I have never missed any 49er games on tv because i've always paid for the NFL gameplan on directv.. but i never said I would remember every freakin plays for the last 10 years... sheezzz....

someone here said that BOWMAN had the 2 games of his career when Willis was not playing, so I asked when did Bowman play last year?? 2014!!!

that's the only reason why I asked that because I thought someone had made a mistake saying that Wilhoite lined up with Bowman last year..

sheezzz..

and by the way, how come no one is answering my questions regarding how Russell Wilson suddenly makes the Seattle Seahawks Offense better??