Colin Kaepernick Thread

Great piece from Tim K, truth bomb!! Even Bow can't lie about how sh*t the offense is and specifically Krapnpick.

The biggest issue with 9ers' current problem lies in the fact all the bad decisions behind what is going wrong now are all interlocked. You almost just don't know where to begin to fix it.

http://www.mercurynews.com/tim-kawakami/ci_29056711/kawakami-picking-over-49ers-totality-wreckage

Originally posted by jvangeystel:

Originally posted by Baldie:
This would have probably been an easy TD to! Kaep just doesn't have the smarts. He does not have the mental smarts to play the position. Yeah he has the strongest arm and can run like a cheetah but can't distinguish a big play when there is one. Both WR's were open!!!! I mean seriously!!!!! I believe a couple of weeks ago Brady was in this same situation. They were going to run the ball but saw Gronk out wide open with no one on him and he snapped it and just threw it with the quickness....TD! How many times have we seen a guy wide open that Kaep does not see. I believe on one drive Patton was open in the endzone but Kaep decided to throw to Davis underneath?

He has to go.....play Gabbert....see what he has, its not like we're trying to get into the playoffs anyway.

I'm not saying that Kaep is good. I'm not even saying he deserves to start anymore. What I will say is i'm tired of every average joe on the streets pretending that they are somehow smarter than Kaep. Yes you seen these two receivers open. You are also sitting at home on your couch, looking at the play from a birds eye view, with no pressure. How do you know anything about what is going on in his head. Kaep never was the guy that could do well without an offensive line or a good running game. That's who he is right now. He can and probably will be a successful QB by the end of his career.Just not with this team. I don't mean the 49ers either. I mean the current roster.

We need a fire sale. Trash the o-line, TEs, and anyone else not pulling their weight. Kaep I think should get a pass because I just don't see how we could upgrade his position. Next year. First picks need to be pass rushing OLB or a stout d linemen and O-line, O-line, O-line. Let him play a year with an improved O-line and maybe we could get something in a trade. Maybe he plays well enough to keep him. All I know is Kaep is absolute trash right now and I personally think it's all in his head. He is capable of everything required of a QB. He's shown that. He just can't put it all together when he's got no time and the team itself is falling apart.

+1 on the first paragraph. Even Russell Wilson is barely surviving behind his horrible offensive line. And when Seattle's defense doesn't show up they're not even a playoff team.

My biggest problem with that play was that the coaches didn't see that and adjust. It was obvious that the Rams were selling out for the run and the coaches still called 3 straight runs. Of course the result of each one was predictable.

Originally posted by All22:
+1 on the first paragraph. Even Russell Wilson is barely surviving behind his horrible offensive line. And when Seattle's defense doesn't show up they're not even a playoff team.

My biggest problem with that play was that the coaches didn't see that and adjust. It was obvious that the Rams were selling out for the run and the coaches still called 3 straight runs. Of course the result of each one was predictable.

This goes without saying but Kaep is the flavor du jour. Russ has a much more lucrative contract and he's got 9TD 6INTs and the Seahawks are 4-4..should probably be 2-6. The line and running game is a huge factor in how a QB plays. Kaep is trash, he sucks, OK I got that. That's fine. But Rodgers against a good D last night looked terrible. He was getting rushed consistently and put up 77 yards.

I agree that Kaep sucks now, but not with the rewriting of history that he always sucked. He was clutch in the 2013 playoffs on the road against Carolina and Green Bay. He was the only reason we kept it close against Seattle in the NFC championship. This was after 1 1/2 years of him playing, when defenses had figured out the read option. Last year he was mediocre as was the team. This year there was a steep drop off, which coincided with a new coaching staff.

I swear he is a terrorist. Just a funding baby for ISIS

Originally posted by wailers15:

I swear he is a terrorist. Just a funding baby for ISIS

He sure looks the part

This coaching staff shoulders some blame for Kap's drop off.

Like I stated earlier who in their right mind thought putting a bunch of known losers (football wise) into a group would create a winning mentality?

We all saw the writing on the wall when JT was named HC and no one wanted to join his staff.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Who says we fall behind by that much vs Atlanta?
Hell, maybe we win more games in the regular season and win home field advantage.

2011- we win that super bowl if not for Kyle Williams

And if we don't give up a kick return Kap completes the greatest comeback and in SB history and carries our defense to a SB.

And we win the 2011 nfcc with a Kap playoff performance. Alex was awful.

im not sure hy were talking about alex in this thread

but in that game we had 2 muffed punts and if im not mistaken brett swain started for us

that may have been the worst wr unit to be played in playoff history

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And if we don't give up a kick return Kap completes the greatest comeback and in SB history and carries our defense to a SB.

And we win the 2011 nfcc with a Kap playoff performance. Alex was awful.

but even so that is the past every single team has found out how to defend kap and he is unable to change he may be the most athletically gifted qb to ever play the game but at certain points you have to use your head - and i have no doubt about his intelligence but he just doesnt have the qb smarts and thats on him not the coaches OC etc

Originally posted by Youngone:
This coaching staff shoulders some blame for Kap's drop off.

Of course they do, and so does the front office for field a lien that is essentially a butt funnel right to the QB...but unfortunately that doesn't make any of what he has become untrue. He isn't seeing the field anymore and that was never his biggest strength to start, he isn't delivering the ball accurately when he manages to have a pocket even if there aren't many. He is scared of rushes that aren't there even though most of the time they are. That is the deal at this point, even though a lot is bad he has proven time and again that he has lost the ability to perform well even when things are actually going right....much less the ability to occasionally make up for others short comings.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by Youngone:
This coaching staff shoulders some blame for Kap's drop off.

Of course they do, and so does the front office for field a lien that is essentially a butt funnel right to the QB...but unfortunately that doesn't make any of what he has become untrue. He isn't seeing the field anymore and that was never his biggest strength to start, he isn't delivering the ball accurately when he manages to have a pocket even if there aren't many. He is scared of rushes that aren't there even though most of the time they are. That is the deal at this point, even though a lot is bad he has proven time and again that he has lost the ability to perform well even when things are actually going right....much less the ability to occasionally make up for others short comings.

i disagree
at some point its the student and not the teacher

I can go to the best teacher in the world and still not be able to pick things up when under fire

i mean how many times can you tell someone to go through progressions or teach someone that

Originally posted by harryj:

im not sure hy were talking about alex in this thread

but in that game we had 2 muffed punts and if im not mistaken brett swain started for us

that may have been the worst wr unit to be played in playoff history

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

And if we don't give up a kick return Kap completes the greatest comeback and in SB history and carries our defense to a SB.

And we win the 2011 nfcc with a Kap playoff performance. Alex was awful.

but even so that is the past every single team has found out how to defend kap and he is unable to change he may be the most athletically gifted qb to ever play the game but at certain points you have to use your head - and i have no doubt about his intelligence but he just doesnt have the qb smarts and thats on him not the coaches OC etc

Alex had prime Vernon, prime Crab, delanie, and a solid run game. He just played like Alex.

And you're right, i dont get why guys like solidg20 continue to bring Alex up. He blew it in 2011, and wouldn't have performed better than Kap during our playoff runs. So i really don't care that Alex sucks a little less than Kap in 2015, because it really doesn't matter anymore, the team sucks.

Edit: just wanted to add that Kap tore it up in the playoffs with those guys. Moss is in his last season was the only difference from crab, VD, and delanie. Alex is the only one to lose a playoff game where our defense and run game showed up.

Originally posted by harryj:
i disagree
at some point its the student and not the teacher

I can go to the best teacher in the world and still not be able to pick things up when under fire

i mean how many times can you tell someone to go through progressions or teach someone that

You're right. Kaep shoulders some blame but he's taking ALL blame here. Kaep is not a traditional QB. He isn't going to work in just any system. He needs a system and a coach that will work to his strengths. Why on earth did Jed decide to go and get a defensive minded coach and then give him an OC with 0 experience? A QB coach who isn't highly regarded? On top of that he give the worst ranked offensive line in the league. Pears and Devey are graded at the bottom. Martin is bad as well. Then I'm not sure if it was management or not but why has Kaep changed his throwing motion. The guy is trying to relearn how to play a certain way that isn't natural to him not to mention change his throwing motion while running for his life. So yea, he takes some blame but the team did a textbook job on how to ruin a QB. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

We still have a bad, bad coaching staff and gameplan. Even when Tebow played as limited as he ways they changed the entire offensive scheme to suit his strengths. Vick filled in for Big Ben and they had him rolling out. Intelligent coaching staffs play to their QB's strengths. Regardless of how bad you think Kaep is, the coaching staff should still be able to squeeze more poduction out of him.