Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by LowerTheBoom:

Originally posted by buck:

I may be wrong but it seems that you tend to insult people in almost every thread that you post in.

The tone and tenor of your posts just irritates me.

This place becomes toxic very fast.

I feel that we should attempt to avoid that toxicity.

But, hey you can post however you please.

I am hardly a moderator.

They irritate you because you don't agree with me and I'm good at breaking down facts to illustrate that I'm correct. Sorry if that sounds cocky, but people don't like being wrong, even if they truly are.

Look at my post right above this one- the guy clearly doesn't agree with me, and I answered his questions politely. Just like I have with other posters that come at me the same way about players in the draft section.

I don't mean to be rude, but I'm also not gonna be kind to someone whose being rude/smart themselves and is spewing non-sense.

If I was wrong, everybody would just be laughing at me and not taking me seriously. It pisses people off when someone wins and there isn't anything they can do about it -- Same reason why so many people hated Jim Harbaugh

The only thing that is correct is Harbaugh sucking which we already know....I think we are on the same page with this topic

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Not really. I believe the horrid offensive line play was the biggest factor in our offense sucking so bad last year. The importance of a good offensive line can't be overstated because they make everything work in football. Sh*tty O-line makes everything on offense suck or at least hinders it quite a bit

Agree! Having four centers during the year should be a dead give away as to the problems on offense! Any change in the center usually takes some time to work out the kinks...four changes...ouch!

Before I read your post I actually had forgotten all about the fact that we had to go through about 7 different centers last season, at least 1 or 2 of them rookies. That will definitely screw with an already shaky O-line

Originally posted by LowerTheBoom:
They irritate you because you don't agree with me and I'm good at breaking down facts to illustrate that I'm correct. Sorry if that sounds cocky, but people don't like being wrong, even if they truly are.

Look at my post right above this one- the guy clearly doesn't agree with me, and I answered his questions politely. Just like I have with other posters that come at me the same way about players in the draft section.

I don't mean to be rude, but I'm also not gonna be kind to someone whose being rude/smart themselves and is spewing non-sense.

If I was wrong, everybody would just be laughing at me and not taking me seriously. It pisses people off when someone wins and there isn't anything they can do about it -- Same reason why so many people hated Jim Harbaugh

Cocky and not accurate.

I do agree with some your points. I do not like it when posters bash 49ers. I have also argued that the failures of the 49er last year can not be placed on any one individual----be that individual Kaepernick, Roman, or Harbaugh. I try not bash any member of the 49ers or other posters.

I was happy that Harbaugh was fired, but there is no reason to turn him into the sole reason for the failures of last year.

I still think that you spend too much time insulting other posters, but like I said you can post however you want.

And please, if you do not know me don't tell me why I dislike your tone and tenor.

But, I do feel like talking with you about this is becoming a waste of your and my time.

Have a good day.

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Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Not really. I believe the horrid offensive line play was the biggest factor in our offense sucking so bad last year. The importance of a good offensive line can't be overstated because they make everything work in football. Sh*tty O-line makes everything on offense suck or at least hinders it quite a bit

Agree! Having four centers during the year should be a dead give away as to the problems on offense! Any change in the center usually takes some time to work out the kinks...four changes...ouch!

Before I read your post I actually had forgotten all about the fact that we had to go through about 7 different centers last season, at least 1 or 2 of them rookies. That will definitely screw with an already shaky O-line

The plus is I think Kilgore will better than Goodwin. See how the guards work out.

#7tormsComing #7evenPounds #7evenEleven #WhoDoYouLove #IDontGetTired #BowDown2MyPresence

That was quite possibly the most epic instagram post ever. The Packers and the rest of the league will bow down to his presence.

Originally posted by BodhiPaddlesOut:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by SFGiant49ers:
Not really. I believe the horrid offensive line play was the biggest factor in our offense sucking so bad last year. The importance of a good offensive line can't be overstated because they make everything work in football. Sh*tty O-line makes everything on offense suck or at least hinders it quite a bit

Agree! Having four centers during the year should be a dead give away as to the problems on offense! Any change in the center usually takes some time to work out the kinks...four changes...ouch!

Before I read your post I actually had forgotten all about the fact that we had to go through about 7 different centers last season, at least 1 or 2 of them rookies. That will definitely screw with an already shaky O-line

The plus is I think Kilgore will better than Goodwin. See how the guards work out.

Yeah Kilgore was lookin good last season til his injury. One has to think that this upcoming season they cant possibly have as many injuries as last year which should obviously help

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Cons definetly outweighed the pros

If you feel that some short sighted statistics and some frustrations in the excitement department out weighed:

- 2 Division Titles

- 36 regular season W's in 3 seasons (12-4 average record)

- 5 playoff W's in 3 postseasons

- 3 straight trips to the NFCCG, 1 trip to the Super Bowl

- Most creative and arguably the best running game in the NFL during that span


Then.... LOL!!!

You're right, we would have been better off if we had an offense like the Saints, Broncos and Lions-- who did WORSE against elite playoff D's like the Seahawks, had less Playoff W's... IF they went, and IF they won a game when they did.

Where did those fancy stats and "elite" passing games go in the playoffs?

FACT: Every single playoff game that we didn't win, came RIGHT down to the wire. The teams I listed got completely suffocated against good D's when it mattered

FACT: When the tempo of a game that MATTERED dictated that our offense generate points/yards in high scoring games (Falcons, Saints, Ravens, Packers)... we did

Originally posted by LowerTheBoom:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Cons definetly outweighed the pros

If you feel that some short sighted statistics and some frustrations in the excitement department out weighed:

- 2 Division Titles

- 36 regular season W's in 3 seasons (12-4 average record)

- 5 playoff W's in 3 postseasons

- 3 straight trips to the NFCCG, 1 trip to the Super Bowl

- Most creative and arguably the best running game in the NFL during that span


Then.... LOL!!!

You're right, we would have been better off if we had an offense like the Saints, Broncos and Lions-- who did WORSE against elite playoff D's like the Seahawks, had less Playoff W's... IF they went, and IF they won a game when they did.

Where did those fancy stats and "elite" passing games go in the playoffs?

FACT: Every single playoff game that we didn't win, came RIGHT down to the wire. The teams I listed got completely suffocated against good D's when it mattered

FACT: When the tempo of a game that MATTERED dictated that our offense generate points/yards in high scoring games (Falcons, Saints, Ravens, Packers)... we did

Seem like you forget that our defense were the reasons we accomplished in what we did ...imagine if we had half as good offense of the examples you brought up...we could have had 3 rings....but we sucked on offense which is fact

Originally posted by buck:
Cocky and not accurate.

I do agree with some your points. I do not like it when posters bash 49ers. I have also argued that the failures of the 49er last year can not be placed on any one individual----be that individual Kaepernick, Roman, or Harbaugh. I try not bash any member of the 49ers or other posters.

I was happy that Harbaugh was fired, but there is no reason to turn him into the sole reason for the failures of last year.

I still think that you spend too much time insulting other posters, but like I said you can post however you want.

And please, if you do not know me don't tell me why I dislike your tone and tenor.

But, I do feel like talking with you about this is becoming a waste of your and my time.

Have a good day.

.

Forgive me for not being more polite to people who pose their poorly thought out opinion as a fact.

You claim it's inaccurate... but you provide no facts to prove your claim.

And I do not need to know you to know that it's human nature for people to hate admitting that they are wrong, even when it's proven substantially so. Especially on the internet. And especially when you've specifically disagreed with me and I've in detail using real game examples and history to show that you're incorrect.

Just because everyone has a "right" to an opinion, doesn't mean that every opinion is based on rational thought and substance. I can have the "opinion" that ISIS is a positive force in the world... I just wouldn't expect anyone to respect it because it would be a baseless statement.


Last thing- these discussions get "toxic" when people refuse to admit they are wrong and refuse to see the other side of the fence and come to a rational conclusion. I addressed the good AND the bad about the 49ers' offense and it's shortcomings... and provided well thought out, fact based, rational perspective on why ultimately it was a poor reason to fire Harbaugh.

You guys just wanna emphasize and blow out of proportion the flaws... and not even so much as acknowledge all the good that came from it as well.

The WHOLE SPORTS WORLD -- including hated rival Pete Carroll -- all but thought it's a joke that we would oust Harbaugh after the success we've had. Yes, SUCCESS.

So ya, it's a waste of time trying to debate with someone who sees only what they wanna see and pretends there are only point on their side of the argument.

Have a good evening.

Originally posted by LowerTheBoom:

Forgive me for not being more polite to people who pose their poorly thought out opinion as a fact.

You claim it's inaccurate... but you provide no facts to prove your claim.

And I do not need to know you to know that it's human nature for people to hate admitting that they are wrong, even when it's proven substantially so. Especially on the internet. And especially when you've specifically disagreed with me and I've in detail using real game examples and history to show that you're incorrect.

Just because everyone has a "right" to an opinion, doesn't mean that every opinion is based on rational thought and substance. I can have the "opinion" that ISIS is a positive force in the world... I just wouldn't expect anyone to respect it because it would be a baseless statement.


Last thing- these discussions get "toxic" when people refuse to admit they are wrong and refuse to see the other side of the fence and come to a rational conclusion. I addressed the good AND the bad about the 49ers' offense and it's shortcomings... and provided well thought out, fact based, rational perspective on why ultimately it was a poor reason to fire Harbaugh.

You guys just wanna emphasize and blow out of proportion the flaws... and not even so much as acknowledge all the good that came from it as well.

The WHOLE SPORTS WORLD -- including hated rival Pete Carroll -- all but thought it's a joke that we would oust Harbaugh after the success we've had. Yes, SUCCESS.

So ya, it's a waste of time trying to debate with someone who sees only what they wanna see and pretends there are only point on their side of the argument.

Have a good evening.

Lol..you're so full of it...and can't even follow your own advice....the only facts that are positive are the out comes ...but fail to see that the offense sucked and Harbaugh didn't know how to adjust, game plan, relay plays to the QB or even call plays

The only credit is due is to fangio...for having to carry jim and his 20 offensive coaches

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LowerTheBoom:

Forgive me for not being more polite to people who pose their poorly thought out opinion as a fact.

You claim it's inaccurate... but you provide no facts to prove your claim.

And I do not need to know you to know that it's human nature for people to hate admitting that they are wrong, even when it's proven substantially so. Especially on the internet. And especially when you've specifically disagreed with me and I've in detail using real game examples and history to show that you're incorrect.

Just because everyone has a "right" to an opinion, doesn't mean that every opinion is based on rational thought and substance. I can have the "opinion" that ISIS is a positive force in the world... I just wouldn't expect anyone to respect it because it would be a baseless statement.


Last thing- these discussions get "toxic" when people refuse to admit they are wrong and refuse to see the other side of the fence and come to a rational conclusion. I addressed the good AND the bad about the 49ers' offense and it's shortcomings... and provided well thought out, fact based, rational perspective on why ultimately it was a poor reason to fire Harbaugh.

You guys just wanna emphasize and blow out of proportion the flaws... and not even so much as acknowledge all the good that came from it as well.

The WHOLE SPORTS WORLD -- including hated rival Pete Carroll -- all but thought it's a joke that we would oust Harbaugh after the success we've had. Yes, SUCCESS.

So ya, it's a waste of time trying to debate with someone who sees only what they wanna see and pretends there are only point on their side of the argument.

Have a good evening.

Lol..you're so full of it...and can't even follow your own advice....the only facts that are positive are the out comes ...but fail to see that the offense sucked and Harbaugh didn't know how to adjust, game plan, relay plays to the QB or even call plays

The only credit is due is to fangio...for having to carry jim and his 20 offensive coaches

He won't be able to hear you for a while.

Man these QB specific threads sure do get heated lol

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LowerTheBoom:
Forgive me for not being more polite to people who pose their poorly thought out opinion as a fact.

You claim it's inaccurate... but you provide no facts to prove your claim.

And I do not need to know you to know that it's human nature for people to hate admitting that they are wrong, even when it's proven substantially so. Especially on the internet. And especially when you've specifically disagreed with me and I've in detail using real game examples and history to show that you're incorrect.

Just because everyone has a "right" to an opinion, doesn't mean that every opinion is based on rational thought and substance. I can have the "opinion" that ISIS is a positive force in the world... I just wouldn't expect anyone to respect it because it would be a baseless statement.


Last thing- these discussions get "toxic" when people refuse to admit they are wrong and refuse to see the other side of the fence and come to a rational conclusion. I addressed the good AND the bad about the 49ers' offense and it's shortcomings... and provided well thought out, fact based, rational perspective on why ultimately it was a poor reason to fire Harbaugh.

You guys just wanna emphasize and blow out of proportion the flaws... and not even so much as acknowledge all the good that came from it as well.

The WHOLE SPORTS WORLD -- including hated rival Pete Carroll -- all but thought it's a joke that we would oust Harbaugh after the success we've had. Yes, SUCCESS.

So ya, it's a waste of time trying to debate with someone who sees only what they wanna see and pretends there are only point on their side of the argument.

Have a good evening.

Lol..you're so full of it...and can't even follow your own advice....the only facts that are positive are the out comes ...but fail to see that the offense sucked and Harbaugh didn't know how to adjust, game plan, relay plays to the QB or even call plays

The only credit is due is to fangio...for having to carry jim and his 20 offensive coaches

He won't be able to hear you for a while.