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Originally posted by fister30:
We can twist reality all we want, at the end of the day we have to hope Kap does something he hasn't done so far in his career, pass the ball effectively from the pocket. I think kap is on thinner ice than what most fappers want to admit. This is why I won't be surprised if we use a higher draft choice and select his possible replacement.

If kap turns into a much better QB this year, then awesome! Good for him and the 49ers. As far as I am concerned we should have drafted a QB in last years draft unless the front office has faith in Gabbert, which again I have no faith in gabbert whatsoever.

...have you seen the QBs coming out this year?
Clearly the line and the QB have a shared responsibility to avoid sacs. The quarterback must help with movement in the pocket, and most importantly reading the defense and hitting his back or other quick outlet if there is pressure or coverage slanted to his first reads, or even a line breakdown. Now the QB also has a shared responsibility with the sideline as well, but these things haven't gone particularly well lately, and the QB is the one with the ball and must do something with it in a timely manner.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Clearly the line and the QB have a shared responsibility to avoid sacs. The quarterback must help with movement in the pocket, and most importantly reading the defense and hitting his back or other quick outlet if there is pressure or coverage slanted to his first reads, or even a line breakdown. Now the QB also has a shared responsibility with the sideline as well, but these things haven't gone particularly well lately, and the QB is the one with the ball and must do something with it in a timely manner.

A 3rd responsibility lies with play calling and proper adjustments, as well.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by fister30:
We can twist reality all we want, at the end of the day we have to hope Kap does something he hasn't done so far in his career, pass the ball effectively from the pocket. I think kap is on thinner ice than what most fappers want to admit. This is why I won't be surprised if we use a higher draft choice and select his possible replacement.

If kap turns into a much better QB this year, then awesome! Good for him and the 49ers. As far as I am concerned we should have drafted a QB in last years draft unless the front office has faith in Gabbert, which again I have no faith in gabbert whatsoever.

...have you seen the QBs coming out this year?

Of course not....he just posts off his hatred of Harbaugh being fired
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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Clearly the line and the QB have a shared responsibility to avoid sacs. The quarterback must help with movement in the pocket, and most importantly reading the defense and hitting his back or other quick outlet if there is pressure or coverage slanted to his first reads, or even a line breakdown. Now the QB also has a shared responsibility with the sideline as well, but these things haven't gone particularly well lately, and the QB is the one with the ball and must do something with it in a timely manner.

Kaepernick does need to reduce the number of sacks that are on him. But, make no mistake the vast majority of the sacks taken last year are not on Kaepernick.

He does have a relatively high number compared to other quarterbacks, but the percentage of sacks that were on him last year was less than the year before.

The Seattle quarterback was, if I remember correctly, on the quarterbacks that had a higher percentage of sacks that were on him.

Also, Kaepernick has been forced, or induced, to run quite a bit on passing plays. Some of that is on him.

So, in short the both the quarterback and the blockers need to improve in the passing game.

Kaepernick work in the offseason should, hopefully, help with this problem.

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If I remember correctly, PFF gave Kaepernick responsibility for 7% of his sacks. I don't know how they figure that out, but there it is - they obviously didn't think he was the main problem in that area.
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Originally posted by crake49:
If I remember correctly, PFF gave Kaepernick responsibility for 7% of his sacks. I don't know how they figure that out, but there it is - they obviously didn't think he was the main problem in that area.

alot of the time he had about two seconds before the pocket collapsed. our pass protection has not been good in my opinion going back to 2011. i was not pleased when the niners hired a o line coach who did not do well in his last job, but i like the fact we have some guys coming back from injury, thomas will be a gem i think.what the coaches did in their former jobs means nothing to me once they become a niner, its just like a player to me in that regards. of course we had nice success but there ARE some glaring things that have been problem children since 2011 and they MUST be corrected. i have faith the new coaches know what they are and will set about to correct them. ck has taken it upon himself to make himself better and thank god we are not discussing a dolphins hat or a woman in his hotel room here in the off season with him
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Originally posted by crake49:
If I remember correctly, PFF gave Kaepernick responsibility for 7% of his sacks. I don't know how they figure that out, but there it is - they obviously didn't think he was the main problem in that area.


I will check tomorrow but I am sure it was 7 of his 52 sacks. or 13.4% of his sacks.



I checked

Just to compare I looked at Luck and Wilson also.

Colin Kaepernick ---13.46%
Russell Wilson-------23.81%
Andrew Luck---------11.11%
[ Edited by buck on Apr 15, 2015 at 5:00 PM ]
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Torrey Smith will be a good addition for Kaepernick in two senses.

On the field he will stretch the defense, although I would like to see get more than some short and medium work as well.

Off the field, the man seems to have his head set on his shoulders quite properly.

I see him as reinforcing Colin Kaepernick's move towards being more open and civil in his dealing with the media.

Colin Kaepernick and Torrey Smith could well be the future leaders of the 49er offense.

[ Edited by buck on Apr 15, 2015 at 6:15 PM ]
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Clearly the line and the QB have a shared responsibility to avoid sacs. The quarterback must help with movement in the pocket, and most importantly reading the defense and hitting his back or other quick outlet if there is pressure or coverage slanted to his first reads, or even a line breakdown. Now the QB also has a shared responsibility with the sideline as well, but these things haven't gone particularly well lately, and the QB is the one with the ball and must do something with it in a timely manner.

A 3rd responsibility lies with play calling and proper adjustments, as well.

I think I said that with my sideline comment. Five passes to the backs all year long doesn't help keep the rush off of you, among many other things. Like I said, I do think it's a shared responsibility of the line, qb, and coaching, and believe it is really not possible to put too fine a point on it as to the proper allocation of fault. The biggest change this year will be the coaching, so the performance this year will be revealing. What I do know is that if you want to go deep to Smith, you have got to keep the defense off balance with quick hitters first, or our QB will get killed.
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Originally posted by buck:
Torrey Smith will be a good addition for Kaepernick in two senses.

On the field he will stretch the defense, although I would like to see get more than some short and medium work as well.

Off the field, the man seems to have his head set on his shoulders quite properly.

I see him as reinforcing Colin Kaepernick's move towards being more open and civil in his dealing with the media.

Colin Kaepernick and Torrey Smith could well be the future leaders of the 49er offense.

boldin has certainly been at the forefront of being a team spokesman so far in the young off season. i think he always was but perhaps he looked around , saw the loss of gore and willis and maybe country as vet leaders and is taking even more of a role??
Originally posted by cciowa:
boldin has certainly been at the forefront of being a team spokesman so far in the young off season. i think he always was but perhaps he looked around , saw the loss of gore and willis and maybe country as vet leaders and is taking even more of a role??

You know he is. He is aware he has to lead
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by fister30:
We can twist reality all we want, at the end of the day we have to hope Kap does something he hasn't done so far in his career, pass the ball effectively from the pocket. I think kap is on thinner ice than what most fappers want to admit. This is why I won't be surprised if we use a higher draft choice and select his possible replacement.

If kap turns into a much better QB this year, then awesome! Good for him and the 49ers. As far as I am concerned we should have drafted a QB in last years draft unless the front office has faith in Gabbert, which again I have no faith in gabbert whatsoever.

...have you seen the QBs coming out this year?

Here's a place to start your research...which of these guys should the niners go after to replace Kaepernick?

QBs rated above the seventh round by CBS Prospects:

1st Round
WInston
Mariota

2nd Round
Hundley

3rd Round
Petty

3/4 Round
Grayson

4/5 Round
Mannion

6th Round
Bridge

6/7 Round
Halliday

I don't recall a worse year for QBs!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Apr 15, 2015 at 6:43 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by fister30:
We can twist reality all we want, at the end of the day we have to hope Kap does something he hasn't done so far in his career, pass the ball effectively from the pocket. I think kap is on thinner ice than what most fappers want to admit. This is why I won't be surprised if we use a higher draft choice and select his possible replacement.

If kap turns into a much better QB this year, then awesome! Good for him and the 49ers. As far as I am concerned we should have drafted a QB in last years draft unless the front office has faith in Gabbert, which again I have no faith in gabbert whatsoever.

...have you seen the QBs coming out this year?

Of course not....he just posts off his hatred of Harbaugh being fired

And amphetamines...don't forget the amphetamines.

Kidding...sort of...dude is intense.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by fister30:
We can twist reality all we want, at the end of the day we have to hope Kap does something he hasn't done so far in his career, pass the ball effectively from the pocket. I think kap is on thinner ice than what most fappers want to admit. This is why I won't be surprised if we use a higher draft choice and select his possible replacement.

If kap turns into a much better QB this year, then awesome! Good for him and the 49ers. As far as I am concerned we should have drafted a QB in last years draft unless the front office has faith in Gabbert, which again I have no faith in gabbert whatsoever.

...have you seen the QBs coming out this year?

Here's a place to start your research...which of these guys should the niners go after to replace Kaepernick?

QBs rated above the seventh round by CBS Prospects:

1st Round
WInston
Mariota

2nd Round
Hundley

3rd Round
Petty

3/4 Round
Grayson

4/5 Round
Mannion

6th Round
Bridge

6/7 Round
Halliday

I don't recall a worse year for QBs!

Those first two are likely going to go one and two over all and they will likely not be as good as Kap, who we got a round and half later.
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