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Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.

Football thread.
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Who do you think is more prepared at this very moment to start at QB?

Gabbert that shouldn't be questioned
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Dicekiller:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Dicekiller:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Dicekiller:
On that completion to Dres Anderson that was nearly an interception, it does look like maybe Kap at least tried to keep his eyes in the middle of the field first instead staring down in the direction of the two receivers the whole way through, if only for a moment. Can't see what that safety does until the ball is already by Anderson, so it's hard to say what happened.

I looked at that play half a dozen times and I see no helmet moved by CK that would indicate he looked anywhere but Anderson.

It's between his 2nd and 3rd step of his dropback. I definitely could just be looking too much into it or misinterpreting it though.

I see him getting the snap, look up, then left. If he did tried to hold the safety by looking down the middle, it wasn't enough.

That's pretty much what I thought initially, so I'll just go ahead and finish what my train of thought was.

If it was a middle safety(well, higher than the one that dropped down) which I'm gonna guess there was, Kap either pretty much negated trying to hold him and should be faulted for the almost pick. Or, it could be spun that he did just barely enough to rocket the ball in have that not intercepted. Although admittedly, that's not good either. Just to cover my bases in case I was wrong, if there wasn't a middle safety, and the safety that almost picked Kap was already in that area when the ball was snapped, maybe Kap just thought he could rocket the ball in there. Which wouldn't be good either.

I don't think I would fault Kaep too much on this play. I think the ball was thrown a tad late. It gave the safety on the outside to closed on the pass in addition to Anderson's route going towards that safety. The pass must be thrown earlier. This is where I think Kaep has to be even more confident and account for his wind up and timing of the throw.

There was another safety in the middle but he's almost out of the play. He was more for the inside receiver than Anderson on the outside. Kaep's head movement shouldn't matter because it's a quick strike throw.



This is a pic just as Anderson turn to look for the ball. The ball should be out of Kaep's hand or at the very least with a forward motion to release the ball. But Kaep is still in the middle of his throwing motion. Anderson ended up getting the ball in front of the goal line, but it shouldn't be that deep. Gave the safety a good play on the ball that was almost INT.

I didn't want to speculate too much at first since I don't know with certainty the design of the play, but you bring up some good points. Still, when I think a little late, I don't think a near interception. It's a fine line though I suppose.
[ Edited by Dicekiller on Sep 2, 2016 at 2:39 PM ]
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.
Really it doesn't matter who starts. As we all know the most popular guy on the team is the backup QB. Blaine and/or Kap will have their ups and downs during the year and as soon as we go on a two game losing streak the chant for the backup starts. It's not a winning situation with either QB. I personally would like to see Gabbert play an entire season. I've seen the Kap show, doesn't matter the system, his flaws still haunt him. I can't go another year of Kap holding the ball and scrambling instead of throwing it.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Football thread.

That is why included the words football player in the first sentence.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.

Agreed, he really is just not very good anymore. I question his commitment and there must never be any doubts about a QB's commitment. You're either all in, or you're out.
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Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.

You don't think his off-field pursuits affect how he prepares for, and views, his position as an NFL QB?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.

You don't think his off-field pursuits affect how he prepares for, and views, his position as an NFL QB?

That's like saying spending to much time arguing on the zone effects my job
Hes not gonna get cut but he will be our 3rd string qb....or thats where he belongs
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.

You don't think his off-field pursuits affect how he prepares for, and views, his position as an NFL QB?

That's like saying spending to much time arguing on the zone effects my job

Depending on your job it could very well effect it. .
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.

You don't think his off-field pursuits affect how he prepares for, and views, his position as an NFL QB?

That's like saying spending to much time arguing on the zone effects my job

Depending on your job it could very well effect it. .

I think he was being sarcastic. At least I hope so lol.
Originally posted by dj43:
MODS: Thanks for this thread.

Here is my chart of each throw Kaepernick made against the Charger.

1. 1st & 10 - easy throw to the left side to Miller for 8 yds. On target. On time.

2. 2nd & 7 - 10 yard completion to Burbridge who made a nice comeback move to shield the ball from the defender. First read.

3. 1st & 10 - 8 yd completion to Kerley who read the zone well and made it an easy throw for CK. First read.

4. 2nd & 2 - 7 yds to Miller, good throw. First read.

5. 2nd & 3 - inc. to Miller. Bad decision to throw into double coverage. Miller couldn't hold the fastball and got popped by DB. (Tim Ryan 49er TV commentator: "Kaepernick led Miller into trouble on that one.") First read. Dres Anderson had come open over the middle from the right for an easy 6-8 yard gain but CK never looked. McCoil could have picked if he had gone for the ball. Lucky for CK.

6. 3rd & 3 - 10 yard catch and run completion to Kerley. Easy first read and throw.

7. 1st & 10 - overthrew wide open Bell on the goal line. Should have been an easy TD had the throw been down. Not a hard throw to make. Play was right in front of CK. First read.

8. 1st & 10 - great catch by Dres Anderson on a ball Kaepernick forced into double coverage that McCoil should have picked. Anderson was creamed after the catch but held on. Kaepernick stared him down all the way. 49ers were lucky not to have received another WR injury. Bad decision by CK.

Drive resulted in running TD.

9. 1st & 20 - 11 yard swing pass to Mike Davis. Ball came out a bit late. Had it been quicker, Cajuste would have had angle to block CB thereby allowing Davis to turn the corner and get another 5+ yards. Davis was the first read but ball still came out late. Result was OK but would have been better with quicker throw.

10. 2nd & 8 - inc to Bell on a crossing route. Bell was open for the first but ball was late and behind him. Not a good throw on an easy opportunity.

11. 2nd and 8 - Cajuste unable to get both feet down on sideline throw. Kaepernick rolled right away from pressure, saw Cajuste all the way but again, throw was late. Had he released it earlier, Cajuste had separation and space to receive the ball and stay in bounds. CK waited to throw until he saw Cajuste open and THEN threw it. Perhaps we can say it was he result of lack of time together but the result is still the same.

Drive stalled at that point.

12. 1st & 10 - 3 yard completion in left flat to Miller on pass Miller had to slow and twist back to make nice catch. Had the ball been out in front so Miller did not have to slow, the play could have gone for another 5-8 yards.

13. 3rd and 2 - easy 7 yard completion to Anderson over the middle. First read.

14. 1st & 10 - 8 yard completion to Whalen. Nice route. Easy first read completion.

Penalty on a check down to Hamm.

15. 1st & 15 - 8 yard completion to Hamm on easy first read over the middle. Anderson was 1-on-1 on the left side with no safety cover but CK never looked. Took the easy short completion.

16. 1st & 10 - incomplete on late, low throw to Cajuste. 12 yard throw that should have been easy completion. Ball bounced before it reached Cajuste.

17. 1st & 10 - incomplete jump ball to Whalen in right corner. Whalen made nice catch but could not get both feet down.

18. 2nd & 10 - Horrible throw to the goal line that McCoil should have taken to the house.

SUMMARY: What I wanted to see more than anything else was how he would go through his progressions. In that regard I was totally disappointed. In all but two cases, he stayed on his first read, never looking anywhere else. (judging by helmet movement) SD was making it easy for him in that they stayed rather vanilla, essentially giving him that first read. Also, a lot of Kelly's offense tries to set up an easy first read. Still, I think everyone agrees we need to see him finally master consistently going to 2nd, 3rd and 4th options. After all, the normal set is 3 wideouts.

In three cases, he was lucky he wasn't picked. I was less impressed after this second, more focused look than I was watching the game the first time. The stats look better than the performance. Clearly better than Driskel but not a clear cut advantage over Ponder.

Do you have access to the Niners playbook, the All22 film or a camera angle that points directly at Colin's eyes?

If not, you have absolutely no idea if he is going to his first read and/or not going through progressions. It is possible to move your eyes without moving your head.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Kap has become a really lousy football player. He seems far more interested in becoming a semi illiterate activist than becoming a better QB. I say, let him go..

He and his "cause" have become a constant sideshow and organizational embarressment.
They are not mutually exclusive. Why does his off-the-field stuff always have to be linked with what he's doing with his life? It's just a narrative. He doesn't suck at football because he's in GQ photoshoots or because he's involved in activism, he sucks simply because he isn't a good football player.

You don't think his off-field pursuits affect how he prepares for, and views, his position as an NFL QB?

That's like saying spending to much time arguing on the zone effects my job

Depending on your job it could very well effect it. .

I think he was being sarcastic. At least I hope so lol.
Just making a point.

but if you can't spend time on the zone because of your job, youre obviously working at the wrong job/place
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Sep 2, 2016 at 3:58 PM ]
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Hes not gonna get cut but he will be our 3rd string qb....or thats where he belongs

He'll start sooner or later
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