Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kaep had 4 or 5 called back td this past year I think and some of those dropped passes could have gotten those extra yards
This is why I don't beleive he regressed...but just a setback
what are you supposed to say?
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Apr 17, 2015 at 10:46 AM
- cciowa
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what are you supposed to say?
Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:This one should have been a TD - two guys are open, he finds one of them and the other one knocks it away. That's not really a sign of Kaepernick regression IMO.
I wonder who Kap was throwing to!
Apr 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by jeepzilla:
I wonder who Kap was throwing to!
See, neither of them knows - that's why this drop was Kaepernick's fault - get it together, Kaepernick!
And BTW, he threw it with touch. If he would have fired into Vance's numbers, Vernon couldn't have broken it up. Thanks, Kaepernick. You blew it.
[ Edited by crake49 on Apr 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM ]
Apr 17, 2015 at 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Almost all his pics weren't about trying to force a ball into small window, it was misreading the defense or making absolutely bonehead throws - which I'm not ok with.
That's false as well
What's false? My statement?
Please tell me how this isn't just terrible.....
The guy doesn't do this a whole lot, but, to say this isn't bonehead......
Apr 17, 2015 at 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
What's false? My statement?
Please tell me how this isn't just terrible.....
The guy doesn't do this a whole lot, but, to say this isn't bonehead......
Trade heeeeeeeeeeeem!!!!!
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Originally posted by jonnydel:I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Almost all his pics weren't about trying to force a ball into small window, it was misreading the defense or making absolutely bonehead throws - which I'm not ok with.
That's false as well
What's false? My statement?
Please tell me how this isn't just terrible.....
The guy doesn't do this a whole lot, but, to say this isn't bonehead......
All qbs make bonehead plays...but to say it like.... that's all he does is false
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I never said that's all he does - I said that his INT's were results of bonehead plays - not taking a risk.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Almost all his pics weren't about trying to force a ball into small window, it was misreading the defense or making absolutely bonehead throws - which I'm not ok with.
That's false as well
What's false? My statement?
Please tell me how this isn't just terrible.....
The guy doesn't do this a whole lot, but, to say this isn't bonehead......
All qbs make bonehead plays...but to say it like.... that's all he does is false
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by ayetee:
Those who are not happy with Kaep are not asking for Joe, they just want Alex.
Originally posted by ayetee:
I think it should read,"Kaep took Alex's job after only a year and a half as a pro and after ONE start under center."
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Yeah, that makes sense, because we traded for Stevie Johnson and Boldin while AS was still here..... oh wait.....
Originally posted by ayetee:
I think it should read,"Kaep took Alex's job after only a year and a half as a pro and after ONE start under center."
The Niner Talk obsessive argument about Alex Smith gains a new life in the Kaepernick thread.
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:15 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by jonnydel:I never said that's all he does - I said that his INT's were results of bonehead plays - not taking a risk.Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Originally posted by jonnydel:Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Originally posted by jonnydel:I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Almost all his pics weren't about trying to force a ball into small window, it was misreading the defense or making absolutely bonehead throws - which I'm not ok with.
That's false as well
What's false? My statement?
Please tell me how this isn't just terrible.....
The guy doesn't do this a whole lot, but, to say this isn't bonehead......
All qbs make bonehead plays...but to say it like.... that's all he does is false
When I here misreading the defense..I see some other defender(safety) come up and make the int...the example you have looks like kaep risking and forcing ?
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
When I here misreading the defense..I see some other defender(safety) come up and make the int...the example you have looks like kaep risking and forcing ?
I.E. bonehead.... I said misreading OR bonehead
Either way, it was contrary to the assertion you made about his INT's being "risk" based throws. That he takes more risks than a former QB who shall remain nameless for the sake of the thread.
[ Edited by jonnydel on Apr 17, 2015 at 11:19 AM ]
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM
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Are people complaining about Kaepernick's interceptions? Great. The NFL QB with the lowest interception percentage in history for QB's throwing at least 1500 passes is Aaron Rodgers at 1.6%. Brady is in second at 2.0%.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm
Kaepernick still hasn't thrown 1500 passes so he's not on the list. He's about 400 attempts short, but currently his Int % is a little less than 2%.
Complain all you want, but the numbers don't really show a QB with an interception problem.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm
Kaepernick still hasn't thrown 1500 passes so he's not on the list. He's about 400 attempts short, but currently his Int % is a little less than 2%.
Complain all you want, but the numbers don't really show a QB with an interception problem.
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:I never said I was complaining about his INT% - it's pretty darn good. It was more about the causation of the INT's.
Are people complaining about Kaepernick's interceptions? Great. The NFL QB with the lowest interception percentage in history for QB's throwing at least 1500 passes is Aaron Rodgers at 1.6%. Brady is in second at 2.0%.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm
Kaepernick still hasn't thrown 1500 passes so he's not on the list. He's about 400 attempts short, but currently his Int % is a little less than 2%.
Complain all you want, but the numbers don't really show a QB with an interception problem.
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
When I here misreading the defense..I see some other defender(safety) come up and make the int...the example you have looks like kaep risking and forcing ?
Also, there was a misread of the defense here too, if you jog on over to the passing concepts thread, you'll see this was the first play broken down in that thread.
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I never said that's all he does - I said that his INT's were results of bonehead plays - not taking a risk.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Almost all his pics weren't about trying to force a ball into small window, it was misreading the defense or making absolutely bonehead throws - which I'm not ok with.
That's false as well
What's false? My statement?
Please tell me how this isn't just terrible.....
The guy doesn't do this a whole lot, but, to say this isn't bonehead......
All qbs make bonehead plays...but to say it like.... that's all he does is false
When I here misreading the defense..I see some other defender(safety) come up and make the int...the example you have looks like kaep risking and forcing ?
Misreading the defense causes undue risk. That's the whole point of the criticism. He didn't have to throw to a risky target if he had made the appropriate read. Doh!
Apr 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by prime21:
Kaep can throw deep, Alex was a dinker. Either way, our roster was still tailored for Smith. A bunch of intermediate specialists at WR. Enter: Torrey Smith, something we haven't had since Kaep has become starter, a deep threat with a solid WR skill set. Ginn, Davis had speed but no hands, and when we bring in DGB we will have Anquan Boldin on steroids. Thunder and Lightning baby. Kaeps projected stats: 25 TDs 10 INTs 3,800 Yds passing 400 yds rushing.
Yeah, that makes sense, because we traded for Stevie Johnson and Boldin while AS was still here..... oh wait.....
I love how this type of stuff is A-OK to bring up in the Kap thread but if you even hint at comparing the two in the Smith thread mods are there within minutes to shutdown any type of conversation about it.