Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by jonnydel:
that sounds about right to me. It seems like he's so eager and aggressive to make the play happen downfield - that "splash" play, that he sometimes forgets the most potent weapon is, to quote, "The Dark Knight Rises", "it's the slow knife, the knife that takes it's time, the knife that waits years without forgetting. Then slips quietly between the bones, that's the knife that cuts the deepest."

i kinda chalk just a tiny bit of that up to the way the previous regime really wanted to get chunk yardage on plays and those things weren't being preached like we think they will now.

the one thing I do know is that i don't believe any qb makes a defense react as much as kap. which i hope logan notices and i hope the new found work in the offseason has taught him to manipulate with his eyes more. a truck load of plays were made by him simply moving and the defenders completely abandoning their responsibilities looking at him. the crabtree 51 yard td.. move to one side defender says forget crabtree.
the countless roll out passes misdirection that work every time we ran them seemingly. the countless number of times where he did step up in the pocket and the defense completely bailed on wide open receivers and let them run free in the middle of the field simply because all eyes were on him. hopefully going forward we use that to our extreme advantage. especially since people are basically never going to play man to man coverage against us consistently due to the fact that kap is actually back there.

but now that we have torrey to challenge people over the top along with kap hopefully manipulating with his eyes from the pocket.. it should be wide open for the yac receivers we have...including big vance

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
i kinda chalk just a tiny bit of that up to the way the previous regime really wanted to get chunk yardage on plays and those things weren't being preached like we think they will now.

the one thing I do know is that i don't believe any qb makes a defense react as much as kap. which i hope logan notices and i hope the new found work in the offseason has taught him to manipulate with his eyes more. a truck load of plays were made by him simply moving and the defenders completely abandoning their responsibilities looking at him. the crabtree 51 yard td.. move to one side defender says forget crabtree.
the countless roll out passes misdirection that work every time we ran them seemingly. the countless number of times where he did step up in the pocket and the defense completely bailed on wide open receivers and let them run free in the middle of the field simply because all eyes were on him. hopefully going forward we use that to our extreme advantage. especially since people are basically never going to play man to man coverage against us consistently due to the fact that kap is actually back there.

but now that we have torrey to challenge people over the top along with kap hopefully manipulating with his eyes from the pocket.. it should be wide open for the yac receivers we have...including big vance

Who is your optometrist because you seeing football in 3D? It is almost too simple right? You see SEA doing stuff like this to us all the time but we've been reluctant to make the adjustments. Smh

really want to know who he is going to be lobbying for at WR

Originally posted by jreff22:
really want to know who he is going to be lobbying for at WR

That could show a bit of leadership right? If you are looked upon as the franchise QB then surely you can assert yourself and voice opinion on guys you think can be added to help your offense. FO will do their thing but surely Kap can give a bit of insight on guys work ethic and practice habits working alongside a lot of guys

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by jreff22:
really want to know who he is going to be lobbying for at WR

That could show a bit of leadership right? If you are looked upon as the franchise QB then surely you can assert yourself and voice opinion on guys you think can be added to help your offense. FO will do their thing but surely Kap can give a bit of insight on guys work ethic and practice habits working alongside a lot of guys

After working with all the prospective WR draftees....his opinion should hold some weight. Only problem could be, if they took a kid he "didn't like".

jonnydel, sure wish you would have been calling the O last yr rather than futz nutz. Page before you summarized us last yr and what we should have been doing. It hasn't changed for this yr, so would love to see your O run this yr. The stuff we could have had....ah, just makes me sick and hunger for an OC worth his salt. God we could have a great O. If it doesn't happent this yr, then i expect us to be looking at was it kap or was it the O Calls and game plan. I don't expect crummy game plans or play calls this yr. i think JT has seen enough of that also. And that means we and kap have a lot riding on how he plays this yr. He is either the man this yr or he isn't ever.
i sure hope he's the one.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by jreff22:
really want to know who he is going to be lobbying for at WR

That could show a bit of leadership right? If you are looked upon as the franchise QB then surely you can assert yourself and voice opinion on guys you think can be added to help your offense. FO will do their thing but surely Kap can give a bit of insight on guys work ethic and practice habits working alongside a lot of guys

After working with all the prospective WR draftees....his opinion should hold some weight. Only problem could be, if they took a kid he "didn't like".

I am sure that Baalke has talked to Kaepernick about the receivers that were down in Arizona.

I wonder what Kaepernick would have to say about Dorial Green-Beckham---specifically his intangibles?

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by jreff22:
really want to know who he is going to be lobbying for at WR

That could show a bit of leadership right? If you are looked upon as the franchise QB then surely you can assert yourself and voice opinion on guys you think can be added to help your offense. FO will do their thing but surely Kap can give a bit of insight on guys work ethic and practice habits working alongside a lot of guys

After working with all the prospective WR draftees....his opinion should hold some weight. Only problem could be, if they took a kid he "didn't like".

I am sure that Baalke has talked to Kaepernick about the receivers that were down in Arizona.

I wonder what Kaepernick would have to say about Dorial Green-Beckham---specifically his intangibles?

That's my main ?. DGB might get the nod because of what Kap has seen/said.

Originally posted by jreff22:
That's my main ?. DGB might get the nod because of what Kap has seen/said.

Kaepernick and the receivers spent about what ---2 1/2 months working together in Arizona, and I would guess that they hung out together after the work was done. Kaepernick has spent hours with these guys, and I would guess that those were "not job interview" hours.

Kaepernick may actually more insight into the intangibles--the attitudes and personalities---of those receivers than anybody on the 49er staff.

If I were Baalke I would definitely talk to Kaepernick and I would also have others----Boldin, T. Smith, and the wide receiver coaches---talk to Kaepernick.

Kaepernick could well be a gold mine of wide receiver scouting information.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/4/24/8493605/the-highs-of-colin-kaepernick-are-what-suck-us-in

Check out the video in the article as well.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
jonnydel, sure wish you would have been calling the O last yr rather than futz nutz. Page before you summarized us last yr and what we should have been doing. It hasn't changed for this yr, so would love to see your O run this yr. The stuff we could have had....ah, just makes me sick and hunger for an OC worth his salt. God we could have a great O. If it doesn't happent this yr, then i expect us to be looking at was it kap or was it the O Calls and game plan. I don't expect crummy game plans or play calls this yr. i think JT has seen enough of that also. And that means we and kap have a lot riding on how he plays this yr. He is either the man this yr or he isn't ever.
i sure hope he's the one.

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I have a question hopefully one of you guys CANNOT answer it: I feel Bush was brought in to play the role Shane Vereen did against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl (He had 11 catches and forced those Seattle LBs to cover). That being said, how would you / do you defend against a 21 personell grouping with Bush and Hyde together in a split back set, a healthy VD, Boldin, Torrey Smitj and a QB that can run really well.

Originally posted by cciowa:
why did we always call for a pass play that got five yards when we were at third and 9
why did they line up miller up top of your tv screen
why were they in love with the fullback dive

I trust and have faith ck , the players and the new coaches learned from those mistakes and we will never see that garbage again

Since when were they ever in love with the fullback dive? I only ask because you make it sound as if they run a handful or more of fullback dives every game, which is clearly not the case IIRC.

The top bullet point you brought up has always pissed me off too. When they know they need a certain amount of yards and they either call a play that runs a route just short of the 1st down, or the receiver himself stops a yard or 2 short of the 1st down to make his cut, that always baffles me

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

I have a question hopefully one of you guys CANNOT answer it: I feel Bush was brought in to play the role Shane Vereen did against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl (He had 11 catches and forced those Seattle LBs to cover). That being said, how would you / do you defend against a 21 personell grouping with Bush and Hyde together in a split back set, a healthy VD, Boldin, Torrey Smitj and a QB that can run really well.

I agree that personnel can pose some matchup problems for a defense. I'd consider it a passing personnel because neither Hyde or Bush are going to lead block. That said, I would counter wth a nickel defense and force the 49ers to run the ball. If the 49ers pass, then I'm sagging off the RBs, forcing the 49ers to show that Kap and Torrey are a capable of connecting deep, and that the 49ers are willing to incorporate RBs into the passing game.

I would not allow VD to beat me deep or Kap to rip off scrambles for chunk yardage. Zone defense with a spy on Kap. I give Hyde and Bush room in the passing game until they prove they can beat me. If Kap can move the ball in 5-7 yard increments down the field, tip your cap then adjust accordingly.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
I have a question hopefully one of you guys CANNOT answer it: I feel Bush was brought in to play the role Shane Vereen did against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl (He had 11 catches and forced those Seattle LBs to cover). That being said, how would you / do you defend against a 21 personell grouping with Bush and Hyde together in a split back set, a healthy VD, Boldin, Torrey Smitj and a QB that can run really well.

You try to tackle anyone coming out of the backfield while pressing CK...and hope he can't hit Boldin, Smith and VD before they sack him.