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Colin Kaepernick Thread
Sep 19, 2015 at 12:09 PM
- Afrikan
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So I guess it's a good thing that Kap's (or our Starting QB) thread isn't always on the top of the page anymore?
Sep 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM
- pasodoc9er
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Kap is about 300% better coached this yr, because the coaches are playing to his strengths. The last HC here wanted kap to play the way he wanted...not how kap played best. Call that an idiot run out of town for being hardheaded....and good riddance. Strange how much kap improved just with harbaw gone. Good move, Trent, just wish it could have been sooner(it couldn't)
Sep 19, 2015 at 3:26 PM
- NinerSickness
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Kap is about 300% better coached this yr, because the coaches are playing to his strengths. The last HC here wanted kap to play the way he wanted...not how kap played best. Call that an idiot run out of town for being hardheaded....and good riddance. Strange how much kap improved just with harbaw gone. Good move, Trent, just wish it could have been sooner(it couldn't)
What are you talking about? What improvement? He averaged 6.3 yards per attempt with the week's top rushing performance. On 26 passes. Against the VIKINGS. That's not improvement. That's actually worse than his sub-average performance last year.
And playing the way he WANTS to play has been figured out by NFL defenses. It's not going to work any more.
Sep 19, 2015 at 3:38 PM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by NinerSickness:What are you talking about? What improvement? He averaged 6.3 yards per attempt with the week's top rushing performance. On 26 passes. Against the VIKINGS. That's not improvement. That's actually worse than his sub-average performance last year.
And playing the way he WANTS to play has been figured out by NFL defenses. It's not going to work any more.
Beats a 6 ypa against an awful Oregon defense.
Sep 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM
- dtg_9er
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Sep 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM
- genus49
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Originally posted by NinerSickness:
What are you talking about? What improvement? He averaged 6.3 yards per attempt with the week's top rushing performance. On 26 passes. Against the VIKINGS. That's not improvement. That's actually worse than his sub-average performance last year.
And playing the way he WANTS to play has been figured out by NFL defenses. It's not going to work any more.
The question is what are you talking about?
Not sure why you have VIKINGS capitalized like they are trash. They were a top 10 defense vs the pass last year and you can make the claim they got better.
Did we also forget that his OL is still trash? The playcalling helped but it's not like he has 10 seconds per snap to scan the field. Yes he missed some throws but he also showed much better pocket awareness and ability to scan the field. Not sure how any sane person can watch that game and pretend Kaepernick played poorly.
Sep 19, 2015 at 6:10 PM
- Pillbusta
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Originally posted by genus49:The question is what are you talking about?
Not sure why you have VIKINGS capitalized like they are trash. They were a top 10 defense vs the pass last year and you can make the claim they got better.
Did we also forget that his OL is still trash? The playcalling helped but it's not like he has 10 seconds per snap to scan the field. Yes he missed some throws but he also showed much better pocket awareness and ability to scan the field. Not sure how any sane person can watch that game and pretend Kaepernick played poorly.
Kaep played a good game and did what he had to do to get a win. He didn't carry us by any means but he did his part
Sep 19, 2015 at 6:11 PM
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by genus49:
The question is what are you talking about?
Not sure why you have VIKINGS capitalized like they are trash. They were a top 10 defense vs the pass last year and you can make the claim they got better.
Did we also forget that his OL is still trash? The playcalling helped but it's not like he has 10 seconds per snap to scan the field. Yes he missed some throws but he also showed much better pocket awareness and ability to scan the field. Not sure how any sane person can watch that game and pretend Kaepernick played poorly.
Kaep played a good game and did what he had to do to get a win. He didn't carry us by any means but he did his part
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Sep 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM
- NinerSickness
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Originally posted by genus49:
The question is what are you talking about?
Not sure why you have VIKINGS capitalized like they are trash. They were a top 10 defense vs the pass last year and you can make the claim they got better.
Did we also forget that his OL is still trash? The playcalling helped but it's not like he has 10 seconds per snap to scan the field. Yes he missed some throws but he also showed much better pocket awareness and ability to scan the field. Not sure how any sane person can watch that game and pretend Kaepernick played poorly.
The entire premise of your post is that Kaepernick improved from last year. That, at this point, is patently false. He played just like he always has or even slightly worse than last year.
The team under Kaepernick has won when his pass attempts are low and the team runs the ball successfully. That's always been the case. 6.3 yards per attempt with a crazy-good running game: that's not improvement.
[ Edited by NinerSickness on Sep 19, 2015 at 6:13 PM ]
Sep 19, 2015 at 6:26 PM
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Originally posted by NinerSickness:
The entire premise of your post is that Kaepernick improved from last year. That, at this point, is patently false. He played just like he always has or even slightly worse than last year.
SI.com:
1. I think, at times, I couldn't believe my eyes watching Colin Kaepernick Monday night. He showed totally newfound poise as a drop-back passer. Not only did he climb the pocket and work deep into progressions, he also kept his eyes downfield. That's something a typical running QB, and especially the Kaepernick of old, does not naturally do. Best of all, Kaepernick still made plays with his feet when appropriate. It was not a flawless performance by any means, and Kaepernick was aided by fantastic play-calling from new coordinator Geep Chryst, who used multi-tight end formations, moving pockets and the running game to get his QB comfortable. But if Kaepernick builds on this performance and becomes a respectable pocket passer, we'd be looking at one of football's greatest quarterbacking growth spurts.
ESPN:
Steelers don't see 'old Colin Kaepernick' on Week 1 film
The film is in, and the Steelers have had all week to digest the 49ers' offensive performance Monday against the Vikings.
What did Jarvis Jones see in the film room?
A more poised Colin Kaepernick.
Kaepernick's stats in a 20-3 win over Minnesota were modest -- 17-of-26 passing for 165 yards, seven rushes for 41 yards, no scores, no turnovers -- but Kaepernick looked noticeably more comfortable scanning the field for throws instead of taking off.
"That was a big thing to see," said Jones, the Steelers' starting outside linebacker. "He was more patient in the pocket looking for the pass. He got out on some runs, but it wasn't the old Kaepernick that you see that, just when he gets on a run, he's trying to break tackles and stuff like that. He was more about getting the yards, getting the first down and getting down. Him trying to turn into a running back after he broke the pocket, we didn't see that Kaepernick."
Kevin Lynch:
Colin Kaepernick played better than stats indicate in opener
The consensus is in. People that watched the film saw a more comfortable player operating in the pocket and effectively throwing off play action. Sorry you didn't see the same thing, but you're wrong. It's pretty obvious when watching the game.
One last quote:
Stats are for losers.
- Justin Smith.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Sep 19, 2015 at 6:27 PM ]
Sep 19, 2015 at 6:35 PM
- VinculumJuris
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
SI.com:
1. I think, at times, I couldn't believe my eyes watching Colin Kaepernick Monday night. He showed totally newfound poise as a drop-back passer. Not only did he climb the pocket and work deep into progressions, he also kept his eyes downfield. That's something a typical running QB, and especially the Kaepernick of old, does not naturally do. Best of all, Kaepernick still made plays with his feet when appropriate. It was not a flawless performance by any means, and Kaepernick was aided by fantastic play-calling from new coordinator Geep Chryst, who used multi-tight end formations, moving pockets and the running game to get his QB comfortable. But if Kaepernick builds on this performance and becomes a respectable pocket passer, we'd be looking at one of football's greatest quarterbacking growth spurts.
ESPN:
Steelers don't see 'old Colin Kaepernick' on Week 1 film
The film is in, and the Steelers have had all week to digest the 49ers' offensive performance Monday against the Vikings.
What did Jarvis Jones see in the film room?
A more poised Colin Kaepernick.
Kaepernick's stats in a 20-3 win over Minnesota were modest -- 17-of-26 passing for 165 yards, seven rushes for 41 yards, no scores, no turnovers -- but Kaepernick looked noticeably more comfortable scanning the field for throws instead of taking off.
"That was a big thing to see," said Jones, the Steelers' starting outside linebacker. "He was more patient in the pocket looking for the pass. He got out on some runs, but it wasn't the old Kaepernick that you see that, just when he gets on a run, he's trying to break tackles and stuff like that. He was more about getting the yards, getting the first down and getting down. Him trying to turn into a running back after he broke the pocket, we didn't see that Kaepernick."
Kevin Lynch:
Colin Kaepernick played better than stats indicate in opener
The consensus is in. People that watched the film saw a more comfortable player operating in the pocket and effectively throwing off play action. Sorry you didn't see the same thing, but you're wrong. It's pretty obvious when watching the game.
One last quote:
Stats are for losers.
- Justin Smith.
Sep 19, 2015 at 6:52 PM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
SI.com:
1. I think, at times, I couldn't believe my eyes watching Colin Kaepernick Monday night. He showed totally newfound poise as a drop-back passer. Not only did he climb the pocket and work deep into progressions, he also kept his eyes downfield. That's something a typical running QB, and especially the Kaepernick of old, does not naturally do. Best of all, Kaepernick still made plays with his feet when appropriate. It was not a flawless performance by any means, and Kaepernick was aided by fantastic play-calling from new coordinator Geep Chryst, who used multi-tight end formations, moving pockets and the running game to get his QB comfortable. But if Kaepernick builds on this performance and becomes a respectable pocket passer, we'd be looking at one of football's greatest quarterbacking growth spurts.
ESPN:
Steelers don't see 'old Colin Kaepernick' on Week 1 film
The film is in, and the Steelers have had all week to digest the 49ers' offensive performance Monday against the Vikings.
What did Jarvis Jones see in the film room?
A more poised Colin Kaepernick.
Kaepernick's stats in a 20-3 win over Minnesota were modest -- 17-of-26 passing for 165 yards, seven rushes for 41 yards, no scores, no turnovers -- but Kaepernick looked noticeably more comfortable scanning the field for throws instead of taking off.
"That was a big thing to see," said Jones, the Steelers' starting outside linebacker. "He was more patient in the pocket looking for the pass. He got out on some runs, but it wasn't the old Kaepernick that you see that, just when he gets on a run, he's trying to break tackles and stuff like that. He was more about getting the yards, getting the first down and getting down. Him trying to turn into a running back after he broke the pocket, we didn't see that Kaepernick."
Kevin Lynch:
Colin Kaepernick played better than stats indicate in opener
The consensus is in. People that watched the film saw a more comfortable player operating in the pocket and effectively throwing off play action. Sorry you didn't see the same thing, but you're wrong. It's pretty obvious when watching the game.
One last quote:
Stats are for losers.
- Justin Smith.
OK, OK...I was wrong! Geez...can't a guy just say stuff anymore?
Sep 19, 2015 at 6:58 PM
- goodthings19
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
OK, OK...I was wrong! Geez...can't a guy just say stuff anymore?
I am not being sarcastic when I say this but that is literally the first time I have ever seen someone admit that they were wrong on 49erswebzone. I have been following this site for many years and you sir just did something I thought that I would never see. Color me impressed.
Sep 19, 2015 at 7:15 PM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by goodthings19:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
OK, OK...I was wrong! Geez...can't a guy just say stuff anymore?
I am not being sarcastic when I say this but that is literally the first time I have ever seen someone admit that they were wrong on 49erswebzone. I have been following this site for many years and you sir just did something I thought that I would never see. Color me impressed.
LOL...keep reading I admit I'm wrong on a regular basis! It's great for the spirit!
Sep 19, 2015 at 7:17 PM
- awp8912
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Originally posted by NinerSickness:
The entire premise of your post is that Kaepernick improved from last year. That, at this point, is patently false. He played just like he always has or even slightly worse than last year.
The team under Kaepernick has won when his pass attempts are low and the team runs the ball successfully. That's always been the case. 6.3 yards per attempt with a crazy-good running game: that's not improvement.
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[ Edited by awp8912 on Sep 19, 2015 at 7:17 PM ]