Colin Kaepernick Thread

Remember how a few posters around here kept harping on this idea that Kaepernick wasn't doing enough on the sidelines while the D was on the field? We can put that one to bed right now - that was obviously on the coaching staff, because that's all you see Kaepernick doing now. He leaves the field and goes right over to the bench to start reviewing plays and formations with Gabbert and the coaches.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
He caught the ball easily and dropped it when he hit the ground. Ruled incomplete.

So it was Miller's catch? If so was he also credited with a fumble? No, don't see a fumble listed for Miller. To me it was a bad call as he had control in and then out of the endzone.

You can't fumble in the endzone

However, he was out of the endzone when he fumbled and I've always seen that as a catch unless he was juggling...which he wasn't...until his foot had already hit out of bounds and the ground caused the non-fumble...hmm...think I'll watch that play again...no...maybe not! LOL!

The rule changed though. It aint a completed catch until he secures the ball after falling to the ground. Stupid rule, but it is what it is.

If there was any contact with a defender that could have prevented Miller from securing the ball through the fall, PFF would probably not count that as a drop.

I did not see the play, but PFF sides with the receiver on assigning drops.

Originally posted by crake49:
Remember how a few posters around here kept harping on this idea that Kaepernick wasn't doing enough on the sidelines while the D was on the field? We can put that one to bed right now - that was obviously on the coaching staff, because that's all you see Kaepernick doing now. He leaves the field and goes right over to the bench to start reviewing plays and formations with Gabbert and the coaches.

Listening to Fitz and Brooks on KNBR, and they had a nice segment with Kevin Lynch talking about his off-season work, and how getting away from Harbaugh actually unchained him and allowed him to be the leader of this team. His demeanor and approach to the game has changed. He knows what he has to do, and now has the freedom to do it. He's making great progress. Even Lynch, who's been HIGHLY critical of Kap, acknowledges the improvements to his game and is excited about his development.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by crake49:

In his first two games this season, Kaepernick has a 69.4% completion ratio.

Yeah, but didn't you guys hear, Kap sucks because he doesn't throw it deep enough. Unlike last year when he sucked because he never threw it short....lol

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by crake49:

In his first two games this season, Kaepernick has a 69.4% completion ratio.

Touch that!

I hope Kaepernick makes working with Warner an annual thing. It looks like the game is slowing down for him and he's applying many things from WarnerWorld.

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by crake49:

In his first two games this season, Kaepernick has a 69.4% completion ratio.

Yeah, but didn't you guys hear, Kap sucks because he doesn't throw it deep enough. Unlike last year when he sucked because he never threw it short....lol

The one the that hasn't been mentioned is Kaep completed passes to TEN different receivers yesterday.

Originally posted by crake49:
Remember how a few posters around here kept harping on this idea that Kaepernick wasn't doing enough on the sidelines while the D was on the field? We can put that one to bed right now - that was obviously on the coaching staff, because that's all you see Kaepernick doing now. He leaves the field and goes right over to the bench to start reviewing plays and formations with Gabbert and the coaches.

That was put to bed a couple years ago, it was never true.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by crake49:
In his first two games this season, Kaepernick has a 69.4% completion ratio.

Yeah, but didn't you guys hear, Kap sucks because he doesn't throw it deep enough. Unlike last year when he sucked because he never threw it short....lol

The one the that hasn't been mentioned is Kaep completed passes to TEN different receivers yesterday.

If i had the time i'd go back to previous years threads lol.
-If there is a clean pocket he'll step up.
-If there are short route options he'll hit them
-If you give him speed he can make magic happen
-If you give him more receiving options other than 1wr and 2 tight ends and a full back for most of the game he will spread the ball around.

Every single time we go to the gun and spread offense kap is an absolute killer. Every single time. He could actually just run the offense that brady is running lol. Shotgun everybody run those crossing routes and sometimes a deep one with the back as a check down.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
It's a weird rule because I see guys catch the ball in the endzone and almost immediately spin the ball on the turf celebrating the TD, all in one motion, and it's ruled a TD. The dude can possess it for a fraction of a second in some cases, and in others they choose to enforce the "process of the catch". Rule needs better interpretation and consistency.

It's all about the perception of controlled moves.

Falling to the ground during the catch = body not motion not "in control" therefore they need to secure the catch until they show full control competence.

Catch and then place the ball on the ground = body in full control, then a conscious choice to release the ball after the "play" has concluded.

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
I hope Kaepernick makes working with Warner an annual thing. It looks like the game is slowing down for him and he's applying many things from WarnerWorld.

Wasn't his significant work done with Dennis Gile?

Everything I've seen referencing Warner makes it seem pretty limited.

Originally posted by crake49:
Remember how a few posters around here kept harping on this idea that Kaepernick wasn't doing enough on the sidelines while the D was on the field? We can put that one to bed right now - that was obviously on the coaching staff, because that's all you see Kaepernick doing now. He leaves the field and goes right over to the bench to start reviewing plays and formations with Gabbert and the coaches.

Yes. Fantastic to see in both games so far.

Originally posted by BodhiPaddlesOut:

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:

I hope Kaepernick makes working with Warner an annual thing. It looks like the game is slowing down for him and he's applying many things from WarnerWorld.

Wasn't his significant work done with Dennis Gile?

Everything I've seen referencing Warner makes it seem pretty limited.

Yeah. It makes for a better story though to say it was with Warner. If I remember correctly there was some film study done with him but i have a feeling that too may have been limited.

Originally posted by crake49:
Remember how a few posters around here kept harping on this idea that Kaepernick wasn't doing enough on the sidelines while the D was on the field? We can put that one to bed right now - that was obviously on the coaching staff, because that's all you see Kaepernick doing now. He leaves the field and goes right over to the bench to start reviewing plays and formations with Gabbert and the coaches.

i was one of those on him for that.
I thought it was a coaching thing last year and so far it is looking like that was the case. I just want to see the guy grow into the position and not pull a kordell. There will be growing pains but as long as he's progressing a whole lot of fans will be happy. To see him going over plays and talking with the coaches and gabbert I couldn't be happier.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Yes, Kaepernick said they knew they would have to use short passing but may have waited too long to get it going. Face it...Pittsburgh played better and won. Had little to do with the QB and everything to do with the lines. No penetration on defense, nothing but penetration on offense. Can't win games when that happens.

Solutions?

• Try to shake up the DL by using Purcell at NT or DE
• More Tartt at ILB/Safety hybrid
• Use 4 man line more often with Bowman as the only ILB, use Harold more on the outside for quickness
• Show the young DBs this tape and then work on keeping WRs in front of them

Offense?

• Get the OL some game experience--build chemistry
• Spread the offense to maximize Kaepernick's talent--start the game with no back, 4 WR set--roll Kaep
• Then go to multiple TEs to help the right side of the OL
• Use Hyde and Hayne more as receivers (if Bush is healthy use him as well) (they need to stop over using Hyde)
• Put VD at WR, Smith on the opposite side and Boldin in the slot--take some shots deep right away to loosen up the D

Young teams are frustrating, but there's a lot of talent here...just have to boost the learning curve...fast!

If this doesn't work...wait until next year and draft OL and OLB.

God, sooo much of this!!!

Can this coaching staff please go outside the box! The narrative about this team is making it so easy for D coordinators (the good ones any ways) to easily game plan against our thinning talent this year. We still have the talent to own teams but we need to shake things up and stop thinking this is an isolated experience.

With the coaching plan yesterday I'd really have a hard time believing we'd beat SEA this year simply because we'd probably use the exact same game plan from last year against them, once again.