Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by verb1der:
You guys crack me up.

It's clear that he's generating force from his back leg, which is allll wrong.

A textbook throw is all in the front leg!

Are you even watching Brady throw here? Notice how he's balanced on both feet when throwing, and his transfer from the back to the front foot (that's what I meant about front foot). Kaep's transition isn't balanced, he looks like he's still trying to find it. Have you ever heard them say "step into the throw"?! Probably not, because you don't watch QB's throw as often as I do.

Ok, there's a difference between throwing off your back foot and driving off your back foot. If you're throwing off your backfoot, your balance is back and you're not driving off it to shift your weight from back to front - through the throw. But, driving off your backfoot - like Kaep is seen doing in the video(note the right leg lift - like a golfers when they swing and lift their back foot). Driving off your backfoot is how you get the torque through the throw and turn your hips around. You can't do that if you're on your front foot - simple physics: "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". So, to get his torque moving forward, he has to drive off his back foot.....

What you see from Brady is that he's driving off his backfoot through his front foot. But, you've made it sound like it's that front foot that's creating the whole thing - it's not. We tell people to step into a throw because that's how you get someone to push off their other leg. If you take a step with your left foot, it's your right foot that's doing the work....

Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Just don't say anything negative or else DefenderDX will try and bully you with his keyboard, lol

If you had your facts right, nobody would mind. Again, the vid shows that he's pushing off his back foot as he's supposed to and ending up on his front foot like he's supposed to. For some strange reason, you don't see something that almost EVERYONE on this thread sees.

The issue is that Kaep is pushing too much off the back foot, that's what everyone on this thread doesn't see.

Look at Tom's feet, he doesn't launch himself like Kaep does.

Look at where their right legs end up at from the throw - it's identical......if he was pushing too much off his back leg, that leg would swing way up in the air like a pitcher and come down infront of him - it's not....

Also, the vid of Brady's in slow motion - you speed that up to full speed, it's actually going to look a heck of a lot like CK's

Jonnydel, you make sense!

I still think Kaep pushes too hard off the back foot, just look at how far out his right leg swings out compared to Tom's.

are you people serious. it's one throw. that is waaaaay too small a sample size to say anything

Originally posted by verb1der:
Jonnydel, you make sense!

I still think Kaep pushes too hard off the back foot, just look at how far out his right leg swings out compared to Tom's.

to be fair though, Brady is making a different throw. He's throwing a ball to a streak route, so he's trying to put more air under the ball to get over the corner. It looks like Kaep is driving the ball.

I must have missed something along the way, but wasn't Verb one of the bigger Kap supporters over the past few seasons??

The new throwing motion looks like an improvement, hopefully it carries over and is an improvement during the regular season

Originally posted by verb1der:
The issue is that Kaep is pushing too much off the back foot, that's what everyone on this thread doesn't see.

Look at Tom's feet, he doesn't launch himself like Kaep does.

Those aren't the same throws. Brady is throwing a deep fade, Kap is throwing either an out or a curl/hitch. Its like comparing oranges to spaghetti. If your gonna compare their throwing motions find a vid of both of them throwing the same type of route.

Originally posted by verb1der:
Just don't say anything negative or else DefenderDX will try and bully you with his keyboard, lol

you're spitting out complete and utter incompetence. and you know you know exactly what you're doing.

Originally posted by verb1der:
Jonnydel, you make sense!

I still think Kaep pushes too hard off the back foot, just look at how far out his right leg swings out compared to Tom's.

you do realize that Brady is throwing in slow motion, and throwing a completely different route right? Kap looks like he's throwing a pass to the sideline which requires some heat on the ball. and the point is Kap is using is entire body to throw with now. yet for whatever reason he's still doing it wrong lol

Originally posted by jonnydel:
to be fair though, Brady is making a different throw. He's throwing a ball to a streak route, so he's trying to put more air under the ball to get over the corner. It looks like Kaep is driving the ball.

lalalalala semantics.

Brady is GOAT and Kap is a goat.

Originally posted by verb1der:
The issue is that Kaep is pushing too much off the back foot, that's what everyone on this thread doesn't see.

Look at Tom's feet, he doesn't launch himself like Kaep does.

do you not understand different routes call for different type of passes? lol

Have you people seen the type of blocking Brady gets? He's a statue back there. His line is designed to protect him primarily. Our line is designed to run the ball

I never said I was a QB expert, lol

Originally posted by verb1der:
Are you even watching Brady throw here? Notice how he's balanced on both feet when throwing, and his transfer from the back to the front foot (that's what I meant about front foot). Kaep's transition isn't balanced, he looks like he's still trying to find it. Have you ever heard them say "step into the throw"?! Probably not, because you don't watch QB's throw as often as I do.

Oh I guess you're a QB expert then

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by verb1der:

Are you even watching Brady throw here? Notice how he's balanced on both feet when throwing, and his transfer from the back to the front foot (that's what I meant about front foot). Kaep's transition isn't balanced, he looks like he's still trying to find it. Have you ever heard them say "step into the throw"?! Probably not, because you don't watch QB's throw as often as I do.

Oh I guess you're a QB expert then

Where does it say "expert"?!?! Stop twisting my words!