Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
No. Kap made the mistakes. and then he didn't get any help When something isn't working every quarterback in the nfl needs help from their coaches to put them in positions to be successful. period.

I'm not defending his play TODAY. TODAY is not an indictment of who kap Truly is, if when he has good games and great ones they are not an indictment of who he truly is.

when you watch the tape can you add up how many plays guys were open?

Is Kap not seeing them or not trusting himself....?

Today was just a perfect storm of wrong.
He had no reason to trust he could get protection to go through reads- he usually didn't if the play was long developing.
He did not get a moving pocket. On most play action roll outs the cardinals did not bite on the fake so he had a defender right in his face to either attempt the pass and 1 time take the sack. he evaded a whole lot of pressure, lots of chaos all around him.
Torrey smith was open when he under threw him. Today he under threw vernon on the interception. those were throws he usually nails. today was just a horrible day from top to bottom. but it was just TODAY. no new problems arose. no new glaring weaknesses we need to obsess over. he actually made the right decision on 3 of the 4 interceptions today. the 2 to vernon he completed last week and week 1. the one to torrey he needs to fire it down the field and he didn't.
but like anything worth having everything has to be in sync. there were protection issues, snap issues and play call issues on top of him having his issues.
just everything went wrong today.

Originally posted by KP82:

Interesting take on NFL network comparing Palmer and Kaepernick this game. Palmer taking advantage of the short throws and easy dinks and dunks, while Kaep doesnt even bother to. I agree Kaep tries to play too aggressive; ironically opposite of his predecessor. Both failed projects.

How the hell did we end up with this after having Montana, Young, and hell even Garcia. Christ, it's frustrating

I don't even like Alex Smith and I think this team would be better off with him. How I wish we had Derek Carr.

At least Kap took the full blame for the loss in the postgame presser.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
So is physically hurt or mentally just not right? I saw zero of his typical lasers today and multiple floaters?

He was throwing ducks out there, regularly underthrowing receivers. He didnt look like himself at all, like he had an arm transfusion with Shaun Hill. He was also backing up when throwing, not showing good balance at all.


Just a bad, bad game for him.

Really really not good. Hes barely an nfl quarterback when he is on with his slow first step and long telegraphing baseball release. Him not having the arm strength makes him not worth starting in the nfl period.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
So is physically hurt or mentally just not right? I saw zero of his typical lasers today and multiple floaters?

I just hope he isn't trying to be toooo mechanical.

Cards were on our players though.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Kap is what Kap is, a One read and run it QB. Nothing more nothing less.

Get off the one read schtick. He's definitely shown he is more than a one read QB if you've ever bothered to actually watch a game. Yes, he played abysmally today, but it was a matter of poor throws rather than incorrect reads. Get your criticism right.

Exactly, kap played like crap....but the one read b******t has been debunked several times.

Objection

To what?

I think it's true and false. But mostly true.
When things are good, Kaep goes through his progressions. When things are bad or he's one and done. Look at the second half of the game. He had time and still didn't go through his progressions

he actually did. if you watched the broadcast they showed where nobody was open they showed that he looked on both sides and nobody was open so he took off.

No u saw the whole game. He got happy feet. They even said there's a window there, but after throwing 4 Ints they could see why he's gun shy. But then they said, you still have to make that throw

Did he have a reason to have happy feet? Only 1 qb in the nfl doesn't get happy feet after getting constant pressure on him the entire game. Just 1.
now he did hesitate on some throws. this is not me saying it didn't happen. i am saying he didn't freeze up completely because he didn't

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by dj43:
Why?

Did you see the way he operated in PS?

Playing vs 2nd stringers. I dont see any QB having success with the current state of the OL right now.

Sorry dude, the first 2 INTs he had room to step into his throws. Is our line bad? Yes. But those INTs were not because of pressure. They were because Kaepernick refuses to step into his f**king passes!!!

now you're just lying.
period.
the 1st 2 he threw off the back foot as pressure crashed down on him.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

At least Kap took the full blame for the loss in the postgame presser.

Kaptain obvious.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
At least Kap took the full blame for the loss in the postgame presser.

Well once again I'm gutted in the result.... I feel sorry for Sackepernick …its going to be a long season

Originally posted by Ike49:

Originally posted by Bootlegger:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Bootlegger:

Originally posted by JoeMontana:

Originally posted by dj43:
A major portion of it goes all the way back to Harbaugh.

Harbaugh drafted him and called him great. However, The Great Quarterback Whisperer proved to be a fraud. He did almost noting to develop Kapernick as an NFL quarterback. To make matters worse, he allowed his ego to overrule his better judgement by sending Alex Smith to Kansas City where he has shown how to deal with a weak OL and still have success. Smith has proved to be not only the better person but the better quarterback while Kaepernick has continued to struggle when facing a quality team.

The previous two games, if you look closely, showed CK really not playing at a level that allows the team a legit chance to win. Blame it on a weak OL, and some of the blame belongs there, but his inability to read defenses and find the quick open receiver killed the team today, and to a large degree, last week.

In looking back at pre-season games, even though they were against second teamers, Gabbert showed how to deal with quick pressure in a way that Kaepernick has never shown. (I can't believe I just typed that but it is true.) Blaine Gabbert showed that he capable of playing in a way CK has never shown.

I love Kaepernick's back story but he just does not have the makeup to play against a tough defense and survive.

I totally agree.

One game in which the QBs exchanged turnovers. Does not even begin an reasonable comparison.

Ahh, i think i get it. If the other QB throws picks too, then its acceptable. Thanks for enlightening me.

Not even Alice ever threw back to back pick 6's

My issue is with the bolded statement above. I'm not defending Kaep, but that whole paragraph is drivel..

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by KP82:
Interesting take on NFL network comparing Palmer and Kaepernick this game. Palmer taking advantage of the short throws and easy dinks and dunks, while Kaep doesnt even bother to. I agree Kaep tries to play too aggressive; ironically opposite of his predecessor. Both failed projects.

How the hell did we end up with this after having Montana, Young, and hell even Garcia. Christ, it's frustrating

I don't even like Alex Smith and I think this team would be better off with him. How I wish we had Derek Carr.

everyone you named would be carried out on a stretcher with these exact play calls and offensive line.

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by KP82:
Interesting take on NFL network comparing Palmer and Kaepernick this game. Palmer taking advantage of the short throws and easy dinks and dunks, while Kaep doesnt even bother to. I agree Kaep tries to play too aggressive; ironically opposite of his predecessor. Both failed projects.

How the hell did we end up with this after having Montana, Young, and hell even Garcia. Christ, it's frustrating

I don't even like Alex Smith and I think this team would be better off with him. How I wish we had Derek Carr.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Ok fine, he's a 2 read guy, 1st read a 49er target, 2nd read an Arizona target.

Dude I'm not getting drug into your s**t....if you really want to believe he's a one read guy then all the power to you. Doing so though, ignored actual football and what's going on out on the field.

Let's just say he doesn't make accurate decisions of any kind Quickly, and that is the problem.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by niners94:

A great QB can change a franchise though. Peyton in his prime can make this team respectable.

Rodgers took one of the worst lines in football to the post season. Enough said

So he's not one of these 2 HoF qbs. OMG!!!


You guys are ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is we plan on paying Kaep elite money

Pretty sure you haven't look at Kap's contract. It looks like elite money. It is far from it, and able to be dropped in any off season. It's fun to post. Even better when you know what you're talking about. lol

Do you know what the word "plan" means?

So you mean after his current contract is up in 4 years? How the hell would you know that?

Hopefully this helps you stop scratching your head in confusion

Kaep will make more money than Brady this year.

Still confused?

Can't even throw a strike in the game he loved..