Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Kapernick took a sack with two WIDE OPEN receivers down field and he looked them off and 2 seconds later got sacked. I swear i think this kid might be taking sacks just to try to blame the losses on his Line and teammates. And let me tell u if thats the route hes taking it, hes gonna be gone faster than if he just owned up to sucking.

I honestly think he don't see them, which is why I think he will be a back up QB in the future somewhere. (ala vick)

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
True this. Half of these posters I've never seen since I've been here; 2004, and it's all major whining and serious hating. I meant the hate is more on a personal level seems to me, and these guys can't carry his soiled jockstrap..

But carry on Sdaddy, I've already had my share of warning, etc...

LOL. Pure BS and you know it. Kaps performance today was atrocious and it warrants criticism. Like it's been said before, some of you seem to be bigger Kaepernick fans than 49er fan because you take any criticism of Kaepernick personally, as you just displayed.

Earlier, someone had posted that we immediately bring someone else in and trade kap. My comment was just exactly who might that be? And that is the crux of the matter now. There is nobody like that out there , and even if there were, we would bring in a stop gap guy to get thru the remainder of the season? I don't think so. So essence of this is we got kap for the rest of this yr, and the hard facts are he is going to have to perform to the best of his ability with only 40% of an O line and that is the LG , LT. C is bull pucky, really bad, Devey is 2 yrs away, with luck, and Pears is probably same. Also no telling if martin to PEars can even do the job when 2 yrs slips by ...don't you know that would be painful...and awful.? So get set to see a lot more kap, probably with more performances like today against the elite teams...PItts and AZ qualify.

PRetty obvious that kap cannot or will not throw before the break on the routes. He has to see his man open before he throws. Well, guess what ? IF he can't throw before the break, he is going to see a lot more of his passes go INT. So sit back and enjoy the show. Kap should have been pulled today. He was lost...in a dream world and believe me, i felt bad for him. He was psyched out, he was beat, he was lost...deep dark lost. JT should have pulled him before he made the disastrous 3rd and 4th INTs. You could see it in his face, and i worried that if he didn't come out of game, his confidence would be irreperably damaged. Yet JT kept him in and he just slid more downhill. He ran well, but he is a QB, not a RB.

If he showed how much he had improved over the past couple yrs it would be one thing. He hasn't ...rather he has reverted to college days. He is desperately in need of prolonged sustained great coaching, may be Kurt warner, maybe not. It is obvious that he doesn't do well under intense pressure...who knows, if gabbert came in for a couple games, maybe kap would be able to sit and take it in and anything gabbert did that was positive, kap might learn from. But whatever he does do will be with an inferior OL and it is mandatory right today that martin comes out for easton, brown comes in for Pears and maybe somebody for devey. Could they possibly play worse?

Still in the best of circumstances, kap has obviously had his playbook and reads dumbed down, or "kaappped down"....because more complicated stuff he either couldn't learn or couldn't do. That does not bode well for him, nor for us. The fact that both Pitts and AZ knew what plays were coming is a very negative omen. Has anyone thot that maybe, just maybe , this is as good as kap gets with pressure all the time due to non existent pass pro? It is worth thinking about, because if so, we are in for repeat performances like today, the worst game i have seen the 9ers play since i became a fan in 1977. Yup,, their worst game in 38 yrs. And no reason to be hopeful for improvement. I don't know the answer.but gabbert is a possibility to just get kap to sit and watch our O in action....playing hiim next few games makes no sense to me. Keep at it, when he is struggling and if traded he will have no value. No, let him sit for awhile, and maybe it will help turn the light on in his noggin.

Other than that there just is no play...other than gabbert, and that is not comforting. LIke it or not we got kap...or gabbert the rest of the season, so odds are we are going nowhere. A high pick QB would be nice to get in the draft, but those come along infrequently, and everybody wants them . The chance we get an Andrew LUck, Marriota, Jameison...is not good. So focus on
the OL, try and get it up to speed, and hopefully it will be serviceable when our franchise Qb opportunity arises...assuming it does. Until then, get ready for kap, under attack with a
paper tiger line. There just seems to be no answer. It does seem, however, that kap is coming closer and closer to proving his drafting may have been a terrible mistake. If so, i would say with no serviceable OL, we are just double bat screwed. It would seem there is a way out of this, but with lesser grade coaches, no OL, and a very inadequate
QB, there is no good answer....However , we could also get lucky, kap changes from frog to prince, and all is well with 49er kingdom. Somehow, this all seems really remote.

We are taking it amidships with inferior coaching, QBing, OL play, DL play, DB play, game planning, game calls...jeez sounds like a litany against harbaw....except it is about our new regime...right now none of the above may end up staying around long. So bad as kap has played....well, he has had plenty of company.

Originally posted by defenderDX:



couldnt agree more

I think only the Lions have more offensive weapons and less results than us. I mean, the Lions have Stafford, Tate, C.Johnson and Abdullah and they can't seem to score more than 16 points a game.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by leakyfausett:
He might well be but when the guy to your left and your right suck as bad or worse it makes it hard to do your job well.

Yeah that might be true, but he's the worst of the starters.

Also, not having Kilgore in there has hurt us a lot more than most fans realized

Speaking of Kilgore, what about Martin's constant snaps so high Kap had to jump up off the turf part of the time, and up on toes the other part of time. There's a second or two to recover and dropback...sighhh That right side really, really blows..

Take those GD headphones off.. This guy

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/27/49ers-carlos-hyde-colin-kaepernick-interception-quotes#

"I mean, it's not that you can't throw that," Hyde continued. "It's just that you can't make that turnover. There was guys open. The ball just dropped down to the other person."

I just seen it... It's probably just frustration.

He just said it on Comcast sports net..if Hyde said it the locker rooms talking about. Torrey smiths not wearing head phones and rubbing his belly.. Didn't have Jamba Juice in his hand either..

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

What's b******t is when we win I NEVER See you motherf**kers on the Zone, as SOON as we do you guys are here like b***hes in heat. f**k you guys. You're not 49er fans you're haters that don't know s**t about football, that hate on a guy you've never met at level you'll NEVER play. Only b***h ass mother f**kers act like you guys do. Mods sorry but you guys let these b***hes troll actual fans.

True this. Half of these posters I've never seen since I've been here; 2004, and it's all major whining and serious hating. I meant the hate is more on a personal level seems to me, and these guys can't carry his soiled jockstrap..

But carry on Sdaddy, I've already had my share of warning, etc...

Lmfao. You and sdadddy are so emotionally invested into kapernick that the logic is thrown out the window and sdads post proves it. You can try to spin it into this "special" hate we have for kapernick but the truth is its just you guys are so emotionally invested into the guy that anythig bad said about him is wrong and there must be some hidden agenda at work. Sorry bro. You'll know in a year or two whats up once kap is gone. I mean crap I was at Chevys on the delta today and I started crackin up because this lady busser was like " oh no kapernick no good" cause all the servers were talking **** about kap. We all know he sucks. U guys are just the small majority who are emotionally invested that you can't let go. Your a 49er fan bro remember that.

Originally posted by Stud:
Agreed with the bolded. The fact is that Kapernicks performance today played a huge role in the 40 point loss. I mean, he had 2 pick sixes in the first 5 minutes of the game. All 4 of his picks lead to points. And all 4 of his picks were terrible passes. The entire team was a disaster, but this is the "Kapernick" thread. So his performance today is being criticized, and justifiably so.

Here's a question, did the coaching staff just lose confidence in Kap after the first few interceptions or was it just bad coaching? Because they ran it 14 times in a row at one point, including running up the middle on 2nd and 17. It seemed like the coach's just gave up. Not a good sign.

JT said in his after game presser he personally called/told the OC to goo all run for a hwile, to try calm down the mounting panic and chill out Kap..there ya go. Vid is @49ers.com, as you prolly know..

kaep kaep kaep kaep

krap krap krap krap

snap snap snap snap




fap fap fap fap

I'm not seeing the improvement from Kaepernick's offseason work on his mechanics and reading defenses. I still think his best year was his first when he was a novelty. And why are we running a stripped down offense for a fourth year player? They got the contract right with all of the unreachable incentives, but the brass has put too much faith in Kaepernick without a viable backup plan.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Earlier, someone had posted that we immediately bring someone else in and trade kap. My comment was just exactly who might that be? And that is the crux of the matter now. There is nobody like that out there , and even if there were, we would bring in a stop gap guy to get thru the remainder of the season? I don't think so. So essence of this is we got kap for the rest of this yr, and the hard facts are he is going to have to perform to the best of his ability with only 40% of an O line and that is the LG , LT. C is bull pucky, really bad, Devey is 2 yrs away, with luck, and Pears is probably same. Also no telling if martin to PEars can even do the job when 2 yrs slips by ...don't you know that would be painful...and awful.? So get set to see a lot more kap, probably with more performances like today against the elite teams...PItts and AZ qualify.

PRetty obvious that kap cannot or will not throw before the break on the routes. He has to see his man open before he throws. Well, guess what ? IF he can't throw before the break, he is going to see a lot more of his passes go INT. So sit back and enjoy the show. Kap should have been pulled today. He was lost...in a dream world and believe me, i felt bad for him. He was psyched out, he was beat, he was lost...deep dark lost. JT should have pulled him before he made the disastrous 3rd and 4th INTs. You could see it in his face, and i worried that if he didn't come out of game, his confidence would be irreperably damaged. Yet JT kept him in and he just slid more downhill. He ran well, but he is a QB, not a RB.

If he showed how much he had improved over the past couple yrs it would be one thing. He hasn't ...rather he has reverted to college days. He is desperately in need of prolonged sustained great coaching, may be Kurt warner, maybe not. It is obvious that he doesn't do well under intense pressure...who knows, if gabbert came in for a couple games, maybe kap would be able to sit and take it in and anything gabbert did that was positive, kap might learn from. But whatever he does do will be with an inferior OL and it is mandatory right today that martin comes out for easton, brown comes in for Pears and maybe somebody for devey. Could they possibly play worse?

Still in the best of circumstances, kap has obviously had his playbook and reads dumbed down, or "kaappped down"....because more complicated stuff he either couldn't learn or couldn't do. That does not bode well for him, nor for us. The fact that both Pitts and AZ knew what plays were coming is a very negative omen. Has anyone thot that maybe, just maybe , this is as good as kap gets with pressure all the time due to non existent pass pro? It is worth thinking about, because if so, we are in for repeat performances like today, the worst game i have seen the 9ers play since i became a fan in 1977. Yup,, their worst game in 38 yrs. And no reason to be hopeful for improvement. I don't know the answer.but gabbert is a possibility to just get kap to sit and watch our O in action....playing hiim next few games makes no sense to me. Keep at it, when he is struggling and if traded he will have no value. No, let him sit for awhile, and maybe it will help turn the light on in his noggin.

Other than that there just is no play...other than gabbert, and that is not comforting. LIke it or not we got kap...or gabbert the rest of the season, so odds are we are going nowhere. A high pick QB would be nice to get in the draft, but those come along infrequently, and everybody wants them . The chance we get an Andrew LUck, Marriota, Jameison...is not good. So focus on
the OL, try and get it up to speed, and hopefully it will be serviceable when our franchise Qb opportunity arises...assuming it does. Until then, get ready for kap, under attack with a
paper tiger line. There just seems to be no answer. It does seem, however, that kap is coming closer and closer to proving his drafting may have been a terrible mistake. If so, i would say with no serviceable OL, we are just double bat screwed. It would seem there is a way out of this, but with lesser grade coaches, no OL, and a very inadequate
QB, there is no good answer....However , we could also get lucky, kap changes from frog to prince, and all is well with 49er kingdom. Somehow, this all seems really remote.

We are taking it amidships with inferior coaching, QBing, OL play, DL play, DB play, game planning, game calls...jeez sounds like a litany against harbaw....except it is about our new regime...right now none of the above may end up staying around long. So bad as kap has played....well, he has had plenty of company.

As we discussed before, how could we know it was Roman, and not Kaepernick's inability to master a more complex offense?

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
What's b******t is when we win I NEVER See you motherf**kers on the Zone, as SOON as we do you guys are here like b***hes in heat. f**k you guys. You're not 49er fans you're haters that don't know s**t about football, that hate on a guy you've never met at level you'll NEVER play. Only b***h ass mother f**kers act like you guys do. Mods sorry but you guys let these b***hes troll actual fans.

True this. Half of these posters I've never seen since I've been here; 2004, and it's all major whining and serious hating. I meant the hate is more on a personal level seems to me, and these guys can't carry his soiled jockstrap..

But carry on Sdaddy, I've already had my share of warning, etc...

Lmfao. You and sdadddy are so emotionally invested into kapernick that the logic is thrown out the window and sdads post proves it. You can try to spin it into this "special" hate we have for kapernick but the truth is its just you guys are so emotionally invested into the guy that anythig bad said about him is wrong and there must be some hidden agenda at work. Sorry bro. You'll know in a year or two whats up once kap is gone. I mean crap I was at Chevys on the delta today and I started crackin up because this lady busser was like " oh no kapernick no good" cause all the servers were talking **** about kap. We all know he sucks. U guys are just the small majority who are emotionally invested that you can't let go. Your a 49er fan bro remember that.

Wow sdaddy, chill out bro. As far as "playing on his level" or, as Bali-Niner so eloquently put it "can't carry his soiled jockstrap", you're correct. But neither of you are any better. You sit on the internet, just as we do, spending your time talking about men playing a child's game. You may want to cool it with the "holier than thou" routine. Obviously, none of us are good enough to play professional football.

...But we can all run our mouths on the interwebs like true gladiators

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:

Originally posted by Stud:
Agreed with the bolded. The fact is that Kapernicks performance today played a huge role in the 40 point loss. I mean, he had 2 pick sixes in the first 5 minutes of the game. All 4 of his picks lead to points. And all 4 of his picks were terrible passes. The entire team was a disaster, but this is the "Kapernick" thread. So his performance today is being criticized, and justifiably so.

Here's a question, did the coaching staff just lose confidence in Kap after the first few interceptions or was it just bad coaching? Because they ran it 14 times in a row at one point, including running up the middle on 2nd and 17. It seemed like the coach's just gave up. Not a good sign.

JT said in his after game presser he personally called/told the OC to goo all run for a hwile, to try calm down the mounting panic and chill out Kap..there ya go. Vid is @49ers.com, as you prolly know..

Bold part. Ironic. A Kap lover like yourself should be panicking, the fact that the coaching staff ran it 14 times in a row because they no longer trusted Kap to throw it. Not good.