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Originally posted by awol36:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Dude is worse than ever. How many chances?

How many chances did alex get?

did Alex ever throw 4 picks (2 pick sixes) in a game... I dont recall.

This O-line is s**t, thats undeniable... however, I'm pretty sure all 4 INT's were just stupid, bad throws.

I remember screaming at the TV to throw it to boldin. He basically stared him down throwing it about 2-3 seconds too late lol which became his 2nd pick six.
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Originally posted by RabidNiner:
So, you don't like people on the interwebs talking about Kaep? But then you and sdaddy lash out and personally attack Niner fans?

Sounds legit.

Agreed. He says he's been a 49er fan for 40+ years, but yet he comes here and is more concerned in defending Kaepernick than worrying about the state of the 2015 49ers. Not sure if I believe him.
I felt bad for Kap, that was just tough to watch

We probably grab a QB high in the draft next year if this continues.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I felt bad for Kap, that was just tough to watch

We probably grab a QB high in the draft next year if this continues.

Then we need some new offensive coaches. Geep hasn't done anything to help Kap improve since he has been drafted so I don't want his hands on another QB we draft.
[ Edited by TexasGuero49 on Sep 28, 2015 at 12:07 AM ]
Originally posted by socalniner:
Originally posted by awol36:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Dude is worse than ever. How many chances?

How many chances did alex get?

Too many

Alex showed improvement though, that is the huge difference
Meh. The last QB sucked for 8 years. I'll give Kap 4, then the boot.

This is the least talented team we've had in 7 years.

We've been outplayed, outcoached, and clobberknocked for two games straight.

CK a cause or symptom? Who knows.

At this moment 9ers are a joke, a JV team at best. But my favorite squad no matter what! 415 mofos. (uggg that's right, they're 650 now)
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
It's a tough situation. I mean all Qbs have bad games but Kaps regression is alarming. In a way he reminds of Cutler. He's capable of being a franchise QB and can get you to the promise land (Kap has) but then he will have games where you just watch wondering "wtf how did this guy even get drafted?"

I don't know man. I don't really know what to think anymore. I'm at a loss. I mean when Alex was around and he had a s**t game with multiple picks we knew it was "out of character" and he was likely forcing s**t. He's just a conservative QB. Kap on the other hand was supposed to be this "smart" running QB who took calculated risks and could do so unlike his predecessor because of his arm strength. Instead...he just looks like a totally different guy out there.

I'm still willing to give him the benefit of doubt. Today he looked completely shell shocked after the first two pick 6s.
what is a 'franchise qb' ? that term has been used so much to basically describe a qb someone likes, it barely says anything nowadays. is cutler a franchise qb ? is dalton ? is cam newton ? is alex smith ?

it's kinda funny to me because people created this myth of kap and almost a cult of kap, thinking he was much better than he actually is, and then when reality catches up to them they first try to make excuses and then completely disown him. instead of just looking at it from objective point of view and seeing who kap is as a qb in the first place.

lets recap quickly. alex smith becomes a much better qb in 2011. most people attribute it to harbaugh. I do not. sure, harbs helped, but in reality our team just got better as a whole. we could afford to win with defense, special teams and run game. defense is a young qbs best friend and while alex smith wasnt young (we'll get to our young qb in a sec), it certainly helped him as well

in 2012 we are rolling, we have decent schedule and alex goes down. kaep emerges and teams are caught offguard. we gain another great running weapon and a potential for big plays teams werent accustomed to seeing from our passing game. playaction is a huge weapon in the arsenal now. we go almost all the way to win the SB and the cult legend of kaep is born. this is what people will cite (team wins) as argument to why kaep is good. he plays pretty well in the playoffs, nonetheless.

but kaep is never a great passing qb throughout all this. he lacks what great passing qbs have- consistency. the 49ers win with defense and run game, something the 49ers fans will scold russ wilson for, ironically enough. numbers do not lie - the 49ers under harbaugh do really well, but theyre exactly .500 in games in the kaep era where they had to throw the ball 25 times or more. Im pretty sure its probably as bad with alex smith as the qb, if not worse. the 49ers won games because of defense

does this mean kap is garbage ? no it does not. kap is still a young qb who has a lot of positives to come with his negatives. its just that most peoples expectations of him were way too high and they created an alternate reality in which kaep was really good as a passer and now is heavily regressing. I wouldnt say hes necessarily heavily regressing- the team simply doesnt have a good defense anymore. with no good D, the run game is not enough. with no good defense, only elite qbs can carry games by themselves, with few exceptions here and there. kaep, just like alex smith are incapable of carrying offense and participating in shootouts. Id say alex smiths better consistency on short passes probably results in less stalled drive, but in general it does not matter- the team made the right choice in trading alex and retaining kaep anyway

defenses win games and win championships. sure, today even if we had a good D we probably would still lose because of a brainfart game by kap. but the facts remains - a good defense will make a quarterback look better than he is. it is no surprise when defense sucks, the qb does not look good.

it is surprising to people react this way after this game after they thought he looked very good in first two games. yeah, when he has a bad game, its very bad. he just falls apart mentally (I had no words for the 3rd pick, Im not even sure what that was)- see the bears game and todays game.
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Originally posted by awol36:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Dude is worse than ever. How many chances?

How many chances did alex get?

Too many

Alex showed improvement though, that is the huge difference

Yup he did! He got better every year. Just like a fresh turd smells less and less every year.
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Originally posted by Skeets:
Yup he did! He got better every year. Just like a fresh turd smells less and less every year.

Creative, funny but illogical. Smith has improved. Just look at his stats.
It's frustrating I know, but it's too easy to kick a player when he's down and everyone wants to jump him but when he's standing tall and doing well everyone's silent. This game is more than just Kap, it's the whole team.. Outcoached, out scheme Defense and Offense was just pure bad. They need to go back to what they were doing in game 1.. Let Kap rollout, bootleg and stop running the ball out of the shotgun when all you need it's 1 yard.
Since Alex was traded

AS 32 Games- 649Comp-1030att ,63% 7012 yards, 44 TDs 15 INTs 91.1 QB rating

CK 35 games- 591comp-985att, 60%, 7133 yards 42 TDs 22 INTs 83 QB rating

Im not saying we should have kept Alex but Kaep was supposed to be an upgrade over him and just looking at the numbers its not much of an upgrade at all
I do like how Kaep said this game was his fault. owning up to it. Dude better ball out next week or the we want Gabbert chants are gonna start getting louder
Arizona's Tyrann Mathieu, postgame: "Their passing game has been simplified so much, it was easy for us to anticipate routes."


Translation: Kap is so slow they had to dumb the playbook down so much other teams can see it coming on Friday.....this is not the first time an opponent has said this about 49er passing under Kap. I believe Seattle said the same after the Thanksgiving beating they handed out last year.

Something must be done about Kap, the team will not progress with him as QB. He is the least intelligent human on the field playing a position that demands intelligence and quick thinking. It just wont work.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Since Alex was traded

AS 32 Games- 649Comp-1030att ,63% 7012 yards, 44 TDs 15 INTs 91.1 QB rating

CK 35 games- 591comp-985att, 60%, 7133 yards 42 TDs 22 INTs 83 QB rating

Im not saying we should have kept Alex but Kaep was supposed to be an upgrade over him and just looking at the numbers its not much of an upgrade at all

the picks for alex and kap's initial rookie contract coupled with potential, were more than enough to warrant the upgrade.

how much of an upgrade is a different question- and it goes back to peoples perception of what kap is/was. if people thought hes the next rodgers or even randall cunningham, thats on them and their expectations.
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Arizona's Tyrann Mathieu, postgame: "Their passing game has been simplified so much, it was easy for us to anticipate routes."


Translation: Kap is so slow they had to dumb the playbook down so much other teams can see it coming on Friday.....this is not the first time an opponent has said this about 49er passing under Kap. I believe Seattle said the same after the Thanksgiving beating they handed out last year.

Something must be done about Kap, the team will not progress with him as QB. He is the least intelligent human on the field playing a position that demands intelligence and quick thinking. It just wont work.
Kaep and Tomsula have talked about how they have simplified the Playbook, this isnt new info
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