Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
On that 2nd pick, wow wow wow that was bad.

I hope Johnnydel or THL break down the pick because I just don't understand what Kap was thinking at all

he is/was rattled.. has the throw initially...but you can see the Dlineman get past our lineman right when Kap was first going to throw it.....and he should've thrown it, but double clutched tried to step back and then throw..

worse throw of his career I think...most of Kap's other INTs in his career were either Amazing jumping/diving catches, or great defensive designs that set him up.

but that one was just bad, regardless of how the Oline played...he had the throw initially...but was hesitant. Doesn't trust the Oline like last year, where he was hesitant as well...but understandably so.

Originally posted by Geeked:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
On that 2nd pick, wow wow wow that was bad.

I hope Johnnydel or THL break down the pick because I just don't understand what Kap was thinking at all

I believe Dennis Brown said it well...he has so much going on in his mind right now that his decision making is too slow. Trying to remember to do this, not do that, stand this way, look that way...he's very mechanical, which leads to bad passes. Once the first pick six happened he tried to be even more careful and pulled another. From then on he was in a fog...lost.

Ya, it seems he just went blank that game. He might be having a mild breakdown. It happens, and has happened to a lot of STARTING QBs in this league. There's some very big names that have put up similar numbers.

When the season ends, we'll know.

Forgot to add...Dennis started out by saying CK was listening to too much outside noise...tweets, news, whatever...and it was impacting his thinking. Sounds right to me.

Boy is your last sentence true...and scary!

Originally posted by philosoraptor:
To me the issue is he is all over the place. One game he looks like a very good game manger Alex smith-Esque. Another he looks like a future all-pro with ice in his veins. Then he looks like Jamarcus effin russell.

Ugh...anything but that! LOL!

kap just another dual threat QB that will never win a superbowl or be highly productive without the best D in the league and a monster running game

please draft us a QB who was never really athletic enough to rely on his running ability so he had to develop real QB skills and I will be happy

Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Every QB has a bad game. Saw a stat that CK had 159 pass attempts with only one INT. Before halftime, he had 3 INTs in 9 attempts. Pathetic! He's right about one thing, his statements about being 100% at fault after the game ended. Signed T. Smith to big contract and can't get him the ball, neither to Boldin and he looked angry!

Both of those guys were open repeatedly and CK apparently did not see them. He also had Vernon Davis open on several occasions that I saw. Vernon's body language was not positive. He also spent a great deal of time on the sideline later in the game.

This was Kaepernick's worst game since HS.

Pretty much every QB, in the NFL, has had a 4Int game.

The question that is being asked is if Kaepernick can carry a team.

He already has. His first playoff game against Green Bay.

I don't know if it can be taught, but in order for him to take the next step in getting better, he MUST learn to anticipate throws.

Originally posted by RonMexico:
kap just another dual threat QB that will never win a superbowl or be highly productive without the best D in the league and a monster running game

please draft us a QB who was never really athletic enough to rely on his running ability so he had to develop real QB skills and I will be happy

If they're going to do that, they had better spend some time and money on the O-line because that's going to have to be a lot better for anyone, especially a guy who stands back there and delivers the ball.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
On that 2nd pick, wow wow wow that was bad.

I hope Johnnydel or THL break down the pick because I just don't understand what Kap was thinking at all

he is/was rattled.. has the throw initially...but you can see the Dlineman get past our lineman right when Kap was first going to throw it.....and he should've thrown it, but double clutched tried to step back and then throw..

worse throw of his career I think...most of Kap's other INTs in his career were either Amazing jumping/diving catches, or great defensive designs that set him up.

but that one was just bad, regardless of how the Oline played...he had the throw initially...but was hesitant. Doesn't trust the Oline like last year, where he was hesitant as well...but understandably so.

Take the sack on the second INT. Worst case we punt down 7-0.

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
This was Kaepernick's worst game since HS.

Pretty much every QB, in the NFL, has had a 4Int game.

The question that is being asked is if Kaepernick can carry a team.

He already has. His first playoff game against Green Bay.

I don't know if it can be taught, but in order for him to take the next step in getting better, he MUST learn to anticipate throws.

I would say the odds are probably, but not by this current staff.

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

I would say the odds are probably, but not by this current staff.

Baalke and Jed decided the guy who has been coaching him fro the past few years should be promoted.

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by RonMexico:
kap just another dual threat QB that will never win a superbowl or be highly productive without the best D in the league and a monster running game

please draft us a QB who was never really athletic enough to rely on his running ability so he had to develop real QB skills and I will be happy

If they're going to do that, they had better spend some time and money on the O-line because that's going to have to be a lot better for anyone, especially a guy who stands back there and delivers the ball.

our o-line is arguably worse at blocking than Kap is at throwing

so yes I agree, the o-line is probably playing the worst I have ever seen any o-line play on any team

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
This was Kaepernick's worst game since HS.

Pretty much every QB, in the NFL, has had a 4Int game.

The question that is being asked is if Kaepernick can carry a team.

He already has. His first playoff game against Green Bay.

I don't know if it can be taught, but in order for him to take the next step in getting better, he MUST learn to anticipate throws.

I would say the odds are probably, but not by this current staff.

damn.

but seriously, if Geep continues to do dumb s**t...I'll turnover play call duties to Steve Logan. He seems like he is all about doing what is best for the QB. I doubt he would've called a read option in the endzone.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Good suggestion! OL will help with all phases of the offense so it's important to get them in sync. Even mediocre players can play better than this group is playing...so I'm assuming they are just not in sync. Martin appears to be hesitant, which puts him into a bad position...gets pushed back because he does't know where/when to anchor. Been there, done that! LOL!

Just like Kaepernick being a step late with the passes, Martin is a step late making his decisions. There are two things that need to happen...getting more comfortable with the new requirements but more importantly getting mad. I was always much better when mad about a bad play or game. They need to step up and meet the challenge head on. Never thought I'd invoke this name, but...I want to see Kaepernick take on a bit of JT O'Sullivans nasty disposition. The guy wasn't a good QB but you'd better do what he says or he might shove the ball where you don't want it.

That said, the playcalling can still help the OL more!

One thing that helps an OL a lot in pass protection is if they know where the QB is going to be and the QB gets the ball out quickly.

We keep hearing that CK is more effective rolling out, and that may be true, however if the angle an OL may have on a defender does not favor the side to which the QB is rolling, it is a disadvantage.

The best help for a struggling OL is a quick passing game. It not only reduces the amount of time the OL has to hold out defenders, it also forces the defense to keep LBs home instead of blitzing. Once you begin to do that, it tends to pull up the safeties and T Smith begins to have some room. Of course the QB must have eyes to see...

Originally posted by dj43:
One thing that helps an OL a lot in pass protection is if they know where the QB is going to be and the QB gets the ball out quickly.

We keep hearing that CK is more effective rolling out, and that may be true, however if the angle an OL may have on a defender does not favor the side to which the QB is rolling, it is a disadvantage.

The best help for a struggling OL is a quick passing game. It not only reduces the amount of time the OL has to hold out defenders, it also forces the defense to keep LBs home instead of blitzing. Once you begin to do that, it tends to pull up the safeties and T Smith begins to have some room. Of course the QB must have eyes to see...

If you look at those first 2 pic 6's, both receivers were initially open. Had Kap let loose just a little earlier on those throws, they would have been completions. And, hasn't that been one of his problems all along? He waits too long on many of his throws. He's just not mentally processing the field like a good QB should, and especially in his 5th year! We're seeing rookie and 2nd year QB's who are already looking better. We can blame the O-line woes all we want, and they are legit, but when guys like Jaworski, one of his most vocal supporters, are raising these questions, there must be some validity to them. By now, there should be at least some consistency to his game, and there isn't. I don't think it's "hating" to be very worried at this stage. His play Sunday was reminiscent of a rookie, low-round pick who just got thrust into the limelight without adequate preparation. Very worrisome.