Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by SofaKing:

That's what I'm saying. Kap had no business finishing that game, he was hot garbage. Doesn't mean we've given up on him or that he can't recover. I love the kid and root him for to do well, but that game was a lost cause. Sit him down, refocus, and get ready for the next game. If Montana and Young can get benched, so can Kap.

I can only hope it lights a spark under him like it did for Young, but Young was already a MVP award winner before that game. You knew he would bounce back. Kap has to prove he's made of the right stuff.

Hell, even Vernon Davis was benched...

And where the hell did the Vernon down the seam play go!!!

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by niners94:

Want to see Blaine though. Maybe the shock of seeing Blaine playing instead of him will make him work even harder or not play like a deer in headlights

I thought Blaine should have filled in last week once it was clear Kap wasn't going to recover from back-to-back pick 6's. Rather than pull him from the game, the coaches pretty much abandoned the pass game entirely, at one point running 14 run plays in a row. That's doing the team a disservice. Still committed to Kap as the starting QB, but there's nothing wrong with pulling him from the game when he's stinking up the joint. Montana and Young got yanked from games, so can Kap.

Even Ray Ratto said the 49ers were correct to keep him in the game. What is putting Blaine Gabbert, a complete zero, in the game do for you? All it wouldve done is made Kap feel even worse, and showed him that his coach has lost all confidence in him. For what? For Blaine Gabbert to come in and get embarrassed like David Carr did for us? It wouldve been a pointless move that caused more WAY more harm than good.

BTW, I like how Kap had gone almost 200 consecutive pass attempts without a single INT, and he tosses 4 in one game against an elite defense on the road, and now he needs to be cut immediately? He had completed 70% of his passes through the first 2 games with no picks. Its like you guys were all just waiting for him to falter so you could pull out the torches and pitchforks. Does anyone here actually want to see our QB succeed, because it never feels like it.

The thing I hate most about our fanbase is the ruthless, cold hearted criticism at the first sign of a mistake or bad game. Theres no loyalty or slack. Its ironic that they try and force that "faithful" nickname, because our fans are anything but. Faithful to holding every QB to the same strict standard of Joe Montana maybe..

What exactly did leaving Kaep in accomplish? If anything, it made Kaep worse! He panicked hard! Look at INT #3 and 4! No pressure, plenty of time, and open WRs

And what did throwing Carr in accomplish? It told us he wasn't the one

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by niners94:

Want to see Blaine though. Maybe the shock of seeing Blaine playing instead of him will make him work even harder or not play like a deer in headlights

I thought Blaine should have filled in last week once it was clear Kap wasn't going to recover from back-to-back pick 6's. Rather than pull him from the game, the coaches pretty much abandoned the pass game entirely, at one point running 14 run plays in a row. That's doing the team a disservice. Still committed to Kap as the starting QB, but there's nothing wrong with pulling him from the game when he's stinking up the joint. Montana and Young got yanked from games, so can Kap.

Even Ray Ratto said the 49ers were correct to keep him in the game. What is putting Blaine Gabbert, a complete zero, in the game do for you? All it wouldve done is made Kap feel even worse, and showed him that his coach has lost all confidence in him. For what? For Blaine Gabbert to come in and get embarrassed like David Carr did for us? It wouldve been a pointless move that caused more WAY more harm than good.

BTW, I like how Kap had gone almost 200 consecutive pass attempts without a single INT, and he tosses 4 in one game against an elite defense on the road, and now he needs to be cut immediately? He had completed 70% of his passes through the first 2 games with no picks. Its like you guys were all just waiting for him to falter so you could pull out the torches and pitchforks. Does anyone here actually want to see our QB succeed, because it never feels like it.

The thing I hate most about our fanbase is the ruthless, cold hearted criticism at the first sign of a mistake or bad game. Theres no loyalty or slack. Its ironic that they try and force that "faithful" nickname, because our fans are anything but. Faithful to holding every QB to the same strict standard of Joe Montana maybe..

lol you don't need to preach to me dude. I've supported Kap for years on this board and will continue to support him. I don't see what the big deal is benching him on the worst day of his career. It happened to Montana. It happened to Young. And those were far better managed teams with superior decision makers than the ones we have now. Nobody is immune to a benching, not even Kap.

It's not the end of the world. It's one game. You put him right back out there next week and expect a better performance. But leaving him out there to get butchered while clearly rattled was a poor move. I really don't care what Ray Ratto says, he's not exactly the voice of reason. Knowing him, he probably enjoyed the spectacle.

Lies

Doesn't look like he fixed anything.

Too worried about his new perm and shoe garage.

7unny7kie7

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by niners94:
Want to see Blaine though. Maybe the shock of seeing Blaine playing instead of him will make him work even harder or not play like a deer in headlights

I thought Blaine should have filled in last week once it was clear Kap wasn't going to recover from back-to-back pick 6's. Rather than pull him from the game, the coaches pretty much abandoned the pass game entirely, at one point running 14 run plays in a row. That's doing the team a disservice. Still committed to Kap as the starting QB, but there's nothing wrong with pulling him from the game when he's stinking up the joint. Montana and Young got yanked from games, so can Kap.

Even Ray Ratto said the 49ers were correct to keep him in the game. What is putting Blaine Gabbert, a complete zero, in the game do for you? All it wouldve done is made Kap feel even worse, and showed him that his coach has lost all confidence in him. For what? For Blaine Gabbert to come in and get embarrassed like David Carr did for us? It wouldve been a pointless move that caused more WAY more harm than good.

BTW, I like how Kap had gone almost 200 consecutive pass attempts without a single INT, and he tosses 4 in one game against an elite defense on the road, and now he needs to be cut immediately? He had completed 70% of his passes through the first 2 games with no picks. Its like you guys were all just waiting for him to falter so you could pull out the torches and pitchforks. Does anyone here actually want to see our QB succeed, because it never feels like it.

The thing I hate most about our fanbase is the ruthless, cold hearted criticism at the first sign of a mistake or bad game. Theres no loyalty or slack. Its ironic that they try and force that "faithful" nickname, because our fans are anything but. Faithful to holding every QB to the same strict standard of Joe Montana maybe..

What exactly did leaving Kaep in accomplish? If anything, it made Kaep worse! He panicked hard! Look at INT #3 and 4! No pressure, plenty of time, and open WRs

And what did throwing Carr in accomplish? It told us he wasn't the one

Do you really need to see Blaine Gabbert play again to know he isnt "the one"? We know who Blaine Gabbert is. Hes a career backup. Anyone who honestly thought David Carr was going to come in and be better than Alex Smith was a .

Kaepernick is trying to improve. You dont yank him because hes having a bad game. You let him stay in and deal with it. Its part of the process of overcoming his issues.

BTW, why does everyone conveniently forget that he was 50 for his first 72 passes of the season coming into the AZ game? Nearly 70%. And thats before factoring in the dropped passes. It would be one thing if he looked like garbage in all 3 games, but you cant pull your QB for one bad game.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by niners94:

Want to see Blaine though. Maybe the shock of seeing Blaine playing instead of him will make him work even harder or not play like a deer in headlights

I thought Blaine should have filled in last week once it was clear Kap wasn't going to recover from back-to-back pick 6's. Rather than pull him from the game, the coaches pretty much abandoned the pass game entirely, at one point running 14 run plays in a row. That's doing the team a disservice. Still committed to Kap as the starting QB, but there's nothing wrong with pulling him from the game when he's stinking up the joint. Montana and Young got yanked from games, so can Kap.

Even Ray Ratto said the 49ers were correct to keep him in the game. What is putting Blaine Gabbert, a complete zero, in the game do for you? All it wouldve done is made Kap feel even worse, and showed him that his coach has lost all confidence in him. For what? For Blaine Gabbert to come in and get embarrassed like David Carr did for us? It wouldve been a pointless move that caused more WAY more harm than good.

BTW, I like how Kap had gone almost 200 consecutive pass attempts without a single INT, and he tosses 4 in one game against an elite defense on the road, and now he needs to be cut immediately? He had completed 70% of his passes through the first 2 games with no picks. Its like you guys were all just waiting for him to falter so you could pull out the torches and pitchforks. Does anyone here actually want to see our QB succeed, because it never feels like it.

The thing I hate most about our fanbase is the ruthless, cold hearted criticism at the first sign of a mistake or bad game. Theres no loyalty or slack. Its ironic that they try and force that "faithful" nickname, because our fans are anything but. Faithful to holding every QB to the same strict standard of Joe Montana maybe..

What exactly did leaving Kaep in accomplish? If anything, it made Kaep worse! He panicked hard! Look at INT #3 and 4! No pressure, plenty of time, and open WRs

And what did throwing Carr in accomplish? It told us he wasn't the one

Do you really need to see Blaine Gabbert play again to know he isnt "the one"? We know who Blaine Gabbert is. Hes a career backup. Anyone who honestly thought David Carr was going to come in and be better than Alex Smith was a .

Kaepernick is trying to improve. You dont yank him because hes having a bad game. You let him stay in and deal with it. Its part of the process of overcoming his issues.

BTW, why does everyone conveniently forget that he was 50 for his first 72 passes of the season coming into the AZ game? Nearly 70%. And thats before factoring in the dropped passes. It would be one thing if he looked like garbage in all 3 games, but you cant pull your QB for one bad game.

Yes you do! You yank him because he's having a historically bad game. No good can come off of it. His confidence is shot to hell already! You leave him out there to throw 2 more terrible INTs. He was visibly shaken and was running the ball, he was clearly not working through his errors. He was done! No one is saying bench him forever (well I'm not at least)! Just for the rest of that game

Blaine Gabbert was 23 years old when he left Jacksonville! 23 years old!! Super young, on a terrible terrible team! With his best target suspended for drug use. And even then he had some good games. The comeback deep passing TDs that gave them the lead (before Luck took it back) comes to mind. Gabbert isn't done with his NFL career. His ceiling is high and there's a reason he was a top pick. And he isn't like other busts in my opinion! He still has a real shot at being a starting NFL QB

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by niners94:
Want to see Blaine though. Maybe the shock of seeing Blaine playing instead of him will make him work even harder or not play like a deer in headlights

I thought Blaine should have filled in last week once it was clear Kap wasn't going to recover from back-to-back pick 6's. Rather than pull him from the game, the coaches pretty much abandoned the pass game entirely, at one point running 14 run plays in a row. That's doing the team a disservice. Still committed to Kap as the starting QB, but there's nothing wrong with pulling him from the game when he's stinking up the joint. Montana and Young got yanked from games, so can Kap.

Even Ray Ratto said the 49ers were correct to keep him in the game. What is putting Blaine Gabbert, a complete zero, in the game do for you? All it wouldve done is made Kap feel even worse, and showed him that his coach has lost all confidence in him. For what? For Blaine Gabbert to come in and get embarrassed like David Carr did for us? It wouldve been a pointless move that caused more WAY more harm than good.

BTW, I like how Kap had gone almost 200 consecutive pass attempts without a single INT, and he tosses 4 in one game against an elite defense on the road, and now he needs to be cut immediately? He had completed 70% of his passes through the first 2 games with no picks. Its like you guys were all just waiting for him to falter so you could pull out the torches and pitchforks. Does anyone here actually want to see our QB succeed, because it never feels like it.

The thing I hate most about our fanbase is the ruthless, cold hearted criticism at the first sign of a mistake or bad game. Theres no loyalty or slack. Its ironic that they try and force that "faithful" nickname, because our fans are anything but. Faithful to holding every QB to the same strict standard of Joe Montana maybe..

What exactly did leaving Kaep in accomplish? If anything, it made Kaep worse! He panicked hard! Look at INT #3 and 4! No pressure, plenty of time, and open WRs

And what did throwing Carr in accomplish? It told us he wasn't the one

Do you really need to see Blaine Gabbert play again to know he isnt "the one"? We know who Blaine Gabbert is. Hes a career backup. Anyone who honestly thought David Carr was going to come in and be better than Alex Smith was a .

Kaepernick is trying to improve. You dont yank him because hes having a bad game. You let him stay in and deal with it. Its part of the process of overcoming his issues.

BTW, why does everyone conveniently forget that he was 50 for his first 72 passes of the season coming into the AZ game? Nearly 70%. And thats before factoring in the dropped passes. It would be one thing if he looked like garbage in all 3 games, but you cant pull your QB for one bad game.

Yes you do! You yank him because he's having a historically bad game. No good can come off of it. His confidence is shot to hell already! You leave him out there to throw 2 more terrible INTs. He was visibly shaken and was running the ball, he was clearly not working through his errors. He was done! No one is saying bench him forever (well I'm not at least)! Just for the rest of that game

Blaine Gabbert was 23 years old when he left Jacksonville! 23 years old!! Super young, on a terrible terrible team! With his best target suspended for drug use. And even then he had some good games. The comeback deep passing TDs that gave them the lead (before Luck took it back) comes to mind. Gabbert isn't done with his NFL career. His ceiling is high and there's a reason he was a top pick. And he isn't like other busts in my opinion! He still has a real shot at being a starting NFL QB

Yeah, his potential was so high that JAX demanded a 7th round pick for him...

I very much disagree. He will NEVER be a regular starter again. He had his shot, and just couldnt keep up. Its not like he had ups and downs, and lost confidence and the Jags moved on. He was always down. He just couldnt hack it. It happens all the time. His new job is to know how to play the role of an NFL QB for a short period of time while the regular recovers from an injury.

Anyways, removing Kap from the game wouldve been a pointless move, and thats why they didnt do it. All it does is send a message to the team that their leader on offense cant be trusted to (at very least) set an example of fighting until the end, and not giving up regardless of the the score. Kap threw that game away, but it gave him an opportunity to own up to it, and tell his offense "my fault, lets get back in this thing."

I dont see how benching Kap for crappy Blaine Gabbert could do anything but shake his confidence 10 times the amount of anything the AZ defense did to him.

I' LL say again and repeat it a thousand million times let kap and hayne be the new combination together i tell u now theyll freak yous out.

I honestly wouldn't give up on Gabbert but now is not the time for that. At the end of the season is where this discussion needs to happen. It was too much too soon for him. He was supposed to be a project coming out of college and well starting him from day 1 was never gonna end well. If you want to make the change then you can't put him behind a putrid offensive line. The result will be the same regardless of who is throwing. But Kap needs to be put on notice. The line sux we know but that was an inexcusable performance.You have at least until the middle of he year to show something or your job is on the line. The stats look good prior to this game but go and watch the Pit game again a lot of stat padding when the game is already over. I kinda wanted to see more. Even the MIN game while he was accurate on short throws he never got a the defense to back off with a real deep completion.


And no Hayne is not the answer to any of this. It's not a 5/8-halfback combination we are talking about. The only thing they'll get freaked out about is the lack of passing yardage.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Yeah, his potential was so high that JAX demanded a 7th round pick for him...

I very much disagree. He will NEVER be a regular starter again. He had his shot, and just couldnt keep up. Its not like he had ups and downs, and lost confidence and the Jags moved on. He was always down. He just couldnt hack it. It happens all the time. His new job is to know how to play the role of an NFL QB for a short period of time while the regular recovers from an injury.

Anyways, removing Kap from the game wouldve been a pointless move, and thats why they didnt do it. All it does is send a message to the team that their leader on offense cant be trusted to (at very least) set an example of fighting until the end, and not giving up regardless of the the score. Kap threw that game away, but it gave him an opportunity to own up to it, and tell his offense "my fault, lets get back in this thing."

I dont see how benching Kap for crappy Blaine Gabbert could do anything but shake his confidence 10 times the amount of anything the AZ defense did to him.

In the second half Kaepernick was 4 for 10 with an INT. and his 4 completions came on our final drive of the game. Removing Kaep would of been the right thing to do. There's no reason to leave him out there. The same reason a baseball coach pulls his starting pitcher after 3 or 4 innings if they're getting murdered out there, "Sorry kid, today is just not your day". It happens all the time, and usually they still go out there for their next start. It's not saying they don't trust him. If you are playing as bad as Kaep was, there is no working through it. There is only downward spiral.

What does leaving Kaep out there vs a division rival who is killing you teaching him? Whether he's on the bench or in the field, he still knows he was garbage. If anything it'll show your QB some mercy and get him out of that humiliating situation. I don't understand how you don't see that.

I dunno I kinda think it teaches him you crapped the bed now go lie in it. You can say all the right things in a press conference but in game you need to stay there and take the blame and take it like a man. Everyone talks big about accountability why hide him from his mistakes on the bench. He started this mess he needs to finish it. In 50 years time the history books will show that it was only Colin Kaepernick who sunk this team in this game. Not Blaine Gabbert not Carlos Hyde not anyone else. He was the sole QB of this game for the 49ers. What kind of message does it send to other players - err he screwed up go deal with the humiliation out there so he doesn't have to. Grown men need to be treated like grown men. If he wants mercy then he is the wrong profession.

My man Kap gonna be nervous to pass in this next game,he might decide to run to South Africa and back for 800 rushing yards against the Packers

remember the good o' days?

Btw giving up on a player with a lot of potential like Gabbert, who is still really young, is a mistake! Here's something to compare both 25 years old

267 for 501 53.3%. (583 for 1061 54.9%)
3217 yards. (7319 yards)
11 TD 21 INTs. (27 TD 43 INTs)
63.1 rating. (68.2 rating)
19 games. (55 games)

417 for 784 53.2%
4395 yards
23 TDs 24 INTs
66.8 rating
29 games

Originally posted by casualobserver:

I dunno I kinda think it teaches him you crapped the bed now go lie in it. You can say all the right things in a press conference but in game you need to stay there and take the blame and take it like a man. Everyone talks big about accountability why hide him from his mistakes on the bench. He started this mess he needs to finish it. In 50 years time the history books will show that it was only Colin Kaepernick who sunk this team in this game. Not Blaine Gabbert not Carlos Hyde not anyone else. He was the sole QB of this game for the 49ers. What kind of message does it send to other players - err he screwed up go deal with the humiliation out there so he doesn't have to. Grown men need to be treated like grown men. If he wants mercy then he is the wrong profession.

Yes but leaving him in affects the whole team not just kaep