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May 4, 2015 at 12:29 PM
  • Jiks
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.

I'm guessing that with Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Anquan Boldin, V.Davis, Carlos Hyde, Ellington and Patton, Kaepernick is not worried about play-makers.

What about the s**tty downgraded Oline?
May 4, 2015 at 12:30 PM
Originally posted by 9moon:
But if you really think about it, we do have enouff offensive fire works to make it work.. it's just up to Kaep now to make things happen...

The only thing I do worry about now is how our OL will do..

This is where your post went wrong. We aren't trying to be a "fire works" offense. We have been and we are a grinding, bulldozing offense.That is our bread and butter. Strong D, ball control O. We'll probably be in a base 2 WR set.
May 4, 2015 at 12:34 PM
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.

I'm guessing that with Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Anquan Boldin, V.Davis, Carlos Hyde, Ellington and Patton, Kaepernick is not worried about play-makers.

What about the s**tty downgraded Oline?

I don't even understand that take - are you saying the loss of Iupati automatically makes the line downgraded? I can't agree with that. Couldn't get much worse at pass protection than it was last season. And since the blocking scheme will probably be different, I wouldn't assume the running game will be worse without Iupati.
May 4, 2015 at 12:42 PM
  • Jiks
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.

I'm guessing that with Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Anquan Boldin, V.Davis, Carlos Hyde, Ellington and Patton, Kaepernick is not worried about play-makers.

What about the s**tty downgraded Oline?

I don't even understand that take - are you saying the loss of Iupati automatically makes the line downgraded? I can't agree with that. Couldn't get much worse at pass protection than it was last season. And since the blocking scheme will probably be different, I wouldn't assume the running game will be worse without Iupati.

That take is, where did one of the worst pass blocking Olines improve? Do people think that any guy can step right in and become a probowl OL like Iupati? Our oline was by far the weakest link last year and it's pretty much the exact same Oline only now with an unproven starter.
May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.

I'm guessing that with Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Anquan Boldin, V.Davis, Carlos Hyde, Ellington and Patton, Kaepernick is not worried about play-makers.

What about the s**tty downgraded Oline?

I don't even understand that take - are you saying the loss of Iupati automatically makes the line downgraded? I can't agree with that. Couldn't get much worse at pass protection than it was last season. And since the blocking scheme will probably be different, I wouldn't assume the running game will be worse without Iupati.

That take is, where did one of the worst pass blocking Olines improve? Do people think that any guy can step right in and become a probowl OL like Iupati? Our oline was by far the weakest link last year and it's pretty much the exact same Oline only now with an unproven starter.

You should already know the logic in NT Jiks...and that is "if they're no longer on the team, we must be upgrading!"...or or ..."It couldn't be any worse, so we must be improving!!!"

[ Edited by verb1der on May 4, 2015 at 12:47 PM ]
May 4, 2015 at 12:46 PM
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
That take is, where did one of the worst pass blocking Olines improve? Do people think that any guy can step right in and become a probowl OL like Iupati? Our oline was by far the weakest link last year and it's pretty much the exact same Oline only now with an unproven starter.

Iupati was one of the worst rated pass blockers on the team...if not the worst. What the team gives up in power running they should pick up in pass protection. But this is conjecture...just as assuming Iupati would be better or just as good if he had re-signed.

So much will depend on the new coaches getting the most out of Thomas, M Martin and the other young guys.
May 4, 2015 at 12:47 PM
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
That take is, where did one of the worst pass blocking Olines improve? Do people think that any guy can step right in and become a probowl OL like Iupati? Our oline was by far the weakest link last year and it's pretty much the exact same Oline only now with an unproven starter.

I would remind you that Iupati was the worst pass blocker on the team. The other thing to keep in mind is that injuries ruined any chance at continuity so hopefully, they don't have to deal with as much of that this year.

The other thing to keep in mind, IMO, is that Foerster will probably install more of a ZBS and the three newer guys, Martin, Kilgore and Thomas, have quicker feet and are probably more adept in a ZBS. I expect the line to be better this year.
May 4, 2015 at 12:48 PM
Originally posted by verb1der:
You should already know the logic in NT Jiks...and that is "if they're no longer on the team, we must be upgrading!"...or or ..."It couldn't be any worse, so we must be improving!!!"


The bottom line here is that Iupati was rated by two different statistical analysis groups to be the worst pass blocker on the team. I don't think the one loss of Iupati means a worse O line.
May 4, 2015 at 12:53 PM
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by verb1der:
You should already know the logic in NT Jiks...and that is "if they're no longer on the team, we must be upgrading!"...or or ..."It couldn't be any worse, so we must be improving!!!"


The bottom line here is that Iupati was rated by two different statistical analysis groups to be the worst pass blocker on the team. I don't think the one loss of Iupati means a worse O line.

Yea I get that but EVERY TEAM has a "worst pass blocker on the team".

Iupati had chemistry with his guys, and now we lost that.
May 4, 2015 at 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by verb1der:
You should already know the logic in NT Jiks...and that is "if they're no longer on the team, we must be upgrading!"...or or ..."It couldn't be any worse, so we must be improving!!!"


The bottom line here is that Iupati was rated by two different statistical analysis groups to be the worst pass blocker on the team. I don't think the one loss of Iupati means a worse O line.

Yea I get that but EVERY TEAM has a "worst pass blocker on the team".

Iupati had chemistry with his guys, and now we lost that.
so what,,, i am sure his replacement and i think it will be thomas will develop chemistry with the rest of the guys.
May 4, 2015 at 12:59 PM
Originally posted by verb1der:
Yea I get that but EVERY TEAM has a "worst pass blocker on the team".

Iupati had chemistry with his guys, and now we lost that.

How do you know that?
May 4, 2015 at 1:00 PM
Originally posted by verb1der:
Yea I get that but EVERY TEAM has a "worst pass blocker on the team".

Iupati had chemistry with his guys, and now we lost that.

LOL! Yes, recall the chemistry when Staley would turn to him after he screwed up and yell at him? Can't buy that kind of chemistry!
May 4, 2015 at 1:00 PM
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.

May 4, 2015 at 1:03 PM
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.

I'm guessing that with Torrey Smith, Reggie Bush, Anquan Boldin, V.Davis, Carlos Hyde, Ellington and Patton, Kaepernick is not worried about play-makers.

What about the s**tty downgraded Oline?

I don't even understand that take - are you saying the loss of Iupati automatically makes the line downgraded? I can't agree with that. Couldn't get much worse at pass protection than it was last season. And since the blocking scheme will probably be different, I wouldn't assume the running game will be worse without Iupati.


More healthy O linemen and the loss of a guy who cant pass block will obviously make us worse...don't you see?
May 4, 2015 at 1:04 PM
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by susweel:
Feel bad for my dude Kap the GM hanging him out to dry by not drafting him any play makers. Probably gonna be his last year here hopefully his team can properly surround him with good talent.



Sounds about right...but hey he ain't the only one, we have a lot of those guys around these parts.
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