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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Joecool:
If you think he will get better and more consistent anytime soon, don't fool yourself.

This kids footwork and mechanics are bad, real bad. It is almost to the point where he is cocky and overly stubborn in refusing to play with proper mechanics.

He is throwing the ball with nearly crossed feet, his feet are far too close to one another, and he is nearly standing straight tall.

Add all this crapola mechanics up and you have a QB that is never ready to throw the ball given his release.

NOT getting better anytime soon unless the coaches out coach the opponent and get Kap easy throws to read and make.

All that is true, but is more than that and arguably more importantly is his total lack of football IQ which pretty much covers everything from his lack of progression reads, inability to read defenses and poor decision making.

So he's just a gazelle with an arm. Just great!! I just think that he's not making quick reads because he's never set to throw. Every throw takes him to set too many things just to make the throw.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
its his 5th season, how much more time can we spend on him developing? Tired of this alex smith-like b******t and waiting on QBs to become something they never will

frustrating as hell

Not saying I'm happy with his slow development, but we have to try something. He's still the starting QB until somebody better comes along.

WR screens is a good play that he can use to get in rhythm and net some positive yardage. I see the Broncos, Pats, Eagles, Steelers, Chargers use them all the time. All good passing offenses. Never understood why we hardly use them. We prefer to trot out 3 TEs and keep everything condensed, which is a mistake imo.
Originally posted by Joecool:
So he's just a gazelle with an arm. Just great!! I just think that he's not making quick reads because he's never set to throw. Every throw takes him to set too many things just to make the throw.


Exactly. Bad footwork combined with a slow, elongated throwing = a career backup QB at best.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Joecool:
If you think he will get better and more consistent anytime soon, don't fool yourself.

This kids footwork and mechanics are bad, real bad. It is almost to the point where he is cocky and overly stubborn in refusing to play with proper mechanics.

He is throwing the ball with nearly crossed feet, his feet are far too close to one another, and he is nearly standing straight tall.

Add all this crapola mechanics up and you have a QB that is never ready to throw the ball given his release.

NOT getting better anytime soon unless the coaches out coach the opponent and get Kap easy throws to read and make.

All that is true, but is more than that and arguably more importantly is his total lack of football IQ which pretty much covers everything from his lack of progression reads, inability to read defenses and poor decision making.

So he's just a gazelle with an arm. Just great!! I just think that he's not making quick reads because he's never set to throw. Every throw takes him to set too many things just to make the throw.

Yep, just like Casserly said on nfl.com, Kap is basically an athlete playing the QB position, is as simple as that. There is just too much wrong to be corrected. We need to move on.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Originally posted by solidg2000:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol the best part is the line looked fine there given the blitz package

during the game it looked like the line completely whiffed on the first pick 6 but no, kap completed his drop just fine and didn't pull the trigger.. until it was too late

Like I said!! And people started bashing me on that lol

Exactly THIS DROP BACK IS FINE. Every lineman picked up someone, it was just a SIMPLE BLITZ that a GOOD QUARTERBACK should be able to PUNISH. Good QB's punish defenses that blitz them. Kapernick doesnt.

Who was the target? Boldin? Anyway whoever it was should have come back for the ball aggressively.

VD and the only thing he does aggressively is suck balls

The route was under cut, there's no chance to "come back". If it was a 40+ yard pass then yes there's time to adjust to the ball, but not on a 10-15 yard pass
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Boagrius49:
Yeah that guy Alex Smith too. Just a coincidence when Harbaugh showed up, Alex turned his career around.

You must not have been watching Smith in the last year with Singletary. Once Jimmy Raye was fired and Mike Johnson took over as OC, Smith's QB rating went over 90. Smith was already a very good QB BEFORE Harbaugh took over.

Harbaugh deserves credit for recognizing tat Alex was a much better option than any of the others out there, and he proved it by running Harbaugh's offense quite well. Harbaugh's mistake was in allowing his ego to give the job to Kaepernick instead of staying with Smith while carefully tutoring Kaepernick to become a complete NFL QB.

What Harbaugh should have done, was to recognize what every other pro scout recognized and that is that Kaepernick was a very raw talent that would take 3-4 years of careful training to develop. In the meantime, continue winning with Smith while Kaepernick was watching and learning what it takes to play at this level. Unfortunately, by putting Kaepernick in charge of a squad that was an odds-on Super Bowl contender Harbaugh committed to forcing Kap rely on his athletic ability and college-level technique in hopes of winning a ring. Sadly, that didn't work and now the franchise is paying the price for not properly developing a physically gifted player.

Can we get him back? ... is that a possibility?
I'm not gonna lie... i wanted Kap to be Great! but he just never looked right, from that 1st Monday nighter when he came in against the Bears. He was lighting teams up but the mechanics just looked off. I hoped Harbs would fine tune him but it never happened.

Glad i never bought the Jersey...lol ... i wonder if the Jets would give us a 1st rounder for him?
Originally posted by iceberg450r:
I'm not gonna lie... i wanted Kap to be Great! but he just never looked right, from that 1st Monday nighter when he came in against the Bears. He was lighting teams up but the mechanics just looked off. I hoped Harbs would fine tune him but it never happened.

Glad i never bought the Jersey...lol ... i wonder if the Jets would give us a 1st rounder for him?

Why would the Jets even consider doing that? They're 2-1 and Fitzpatrick is playing good football. Kaepernick would ruin all the good they have going on there. Plus, Fitzpatrick played for Chan Gailey and knows his system like the back of his hand.
glad i didn't buy a kaepernick jersey. Was looking at getting the black jersey and was looking at Kaeps. I'm going to go with Patrick Willis's black jersey.

I wonder if the Eagles would take Kaepernick off our hands.
Originally posted by trizzil:
glad i didn't buy a kaepernick jersey. Was looking at getting the black jersey and was looking at Kaeps. I'm going to go with Patrick Willis's black jersey.

I wonder if the Eagles would take Kaepernick off our hands.

For that to be even remotely considered he needs to have a good year...that would be the 2016-2017 season by my guess.
Originally posted by iceberg450r:
I'm not gonna lie... i wanted Kap to be Great! but he just never looked right, from that 1st Monday nighter when he came in against the Bears. He was lighting teams up but the mechanics just looked off. I hoped Harbs would fine tune him but it never happened.

Glad i never bought the Jersey...lol ... i wonder if the Jets would give us a 1st rounder for him?

A month ago, yes. Now, a bag of Lays Clasics Party Pack. Sad! But, a month ago, they'd have endured a fan rebellion, and that would have taken leadership.

I challenged Tomsula after that last preseason game to bench Kaepernick. He was totally lost, and in a fog. I know Tomsula saw it. He's a football guy, he's spent a career trying to confuse qb's and knows what it looks like, and I could see on his face that he recognized it. Sure, he'd have to ask for a meeting with Jed and Trent to make the case, but that's leadership. I've refrained from criticizing him as we didn't know what he knew about offense, but I'm going to criticize him now big time for lack of leadership and guts to do what I absolutely know he knew what had to be done.

Perhaps I'm being unfair and he did do that, and Trent shot him down, in which case all the above criticism belongs to Trent. Another possibility is that Trent does see it and wants to keep playing Kaepernick to preserve maximum trade value while he shops him. If we don't trade him soon, it is on Trent.

Here's the bottom line. You can't win a Lombardi trophy if you don't have a qb that can make reads and adjustments of all kinds QUICKLY, at NFL speeds, to stay a step ahead of defenses, and we don't.
Maybe try him at WR
Colin Kaepernick: 4 INT

Andrew Luck: 7 INT
Originally posted by iceberg450r:
Can we get him back? ... is that a possibility?

I honestly think there is a better chance of Jesus Christ replacing tomsula this year instead of harbaugh ever coming back. I don't think harbaugh would come back to watch a game let alone coach the team.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Colin Kaepernick: 4 INT

Andrew Luck: 7 INT
Andrew Luck comeback win. Something Kap does not do.
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