Colin Kaepernick Thread

lol Brady knows and most likely requested Jastremski and McNally to deflate the ball. Read their texting. It's a clear conclusion. Their reason for the texting given to the investigator was BS.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
lol Brady knows and most likely requested Jastremski and McNally to deflate the ball. Read their texting. It's a clear conclusion. Their reason for the texting given to the investigator was BS.

Brady most definitely requested less air in the football, but i don't think he really saw it as cheating, it's just how he prefers the football. I really don't think it's that big of a deal either. The dude carved up the Seahawks in the SB with a football inflated to regulation, not like he's incapable, just not what he prefers.

Where he went wrong was lying after he got caught. He wouldn't look anywhere near as bad if he just came clean. I really don't see what he did as a big deal. Yea he bent the rules and should face consequences, but lying the way he has is a bigger deal to me.

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
True, but it's not malicious enough to warrant warnings.

In any case, to stay on topic, Kaepernick had three major issues that I had problems with last season:

1) Decision-Making: Forcing the primary read no matter what and scrambling and RUNNING OUT OF BOUNDS FOR A LOSS instead of throwing it away. PLEASE.. PLEASE just throw the ball away if it's not there. 0 yards gained is better than -3 or more yards lost.

2) Vision: Looking deep. And looking deep. And looking deep but NEVER looking short or at the outlets. One fundamental vision/progression teaching for QBs is to look high-low. CK endured a lot of pressure because he only looked high -- he REFUSED to take what the defense gave him. Instead of taking the first down or potential big play from the shorter routes, he was far, far to insistent on waiting and hoping the deep route would open up. Too focused on the 50 yard bombs or deep TDs.

3) Touch: Too many rocket balls on the few passes he did make to the flats. Receivers seemed to really struggle catching slants -- even Boldin -- and I think this was also partly due to CK often times telegraphing that route.

I think it has gotten the poster a warning level of 30%. I have decided not to respond to his posts. I just see no reason to feed him.

On Kaepernick

Point 1. He actually threw the ball away more last year. Kaepernick still needs to continue improving in this area.

Point 2. He needs to take the short passes more frequently or maybe he just needs to take the short pass sooner.

Point 3. More touch. I cringe when I hear people praising the velocity of his passes. He needs to focus on his touch not his velocity.

I am really looking forward to seeing how Kaepernick plays this year. I think the work he did this off-season will prove useful.

Nice posts, guys. This thread is so much better when posters aren't hammering on Kap's off-the-field choices or incessantly scapegoating the previous coaching staff.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Deflated balls had nothing to do with them destroying the Colts.

Sure didn't but the punishment he is about to receive for GETTING CAUGHT CHEATING will

Cheating

Still won the SB lol

Let's get the facts straight, HE (brady did not get caught cheating- the findings by the investigator only said that he he PROBABLY knew more than not know what the Patriots staff did. If the NFL suspends him, he can probably win in a court of law.

BTW-a writer and radio announcer both said it best, it is NOT brady's job to gauge the football if it is within the perimeters. IT IS THE REFEREES job, if they felt nothing wrong, why would Brady, all he is responsible for is if the ball is dry, not slick and to his liking. Just like baseball umpires if the ball is marked.

So I have no problem with Kaep backing the Brady, you still have to throw the ball and drubbing cannot be attributed all to deflated balls.

This

Originally posted by WildBill:
Let's get the facts straight, HE (brady did not get caught cheating- the findings by the investigator only said that he he PROBABLY knew more than not know what the Patriots staff did. If the NFL suspends him, he can probably win in a court of law.

BTW-a writer and radio announcer both said it best, it is NOT brady's job to gauge the football if it is within the perimeters. IT IS THE REFEREES job, if they felt nothing wrong, why would Brady, all he is responsible for is if the ball is dry, not slick and to his liking. Just like baseball umpires if the ball is marked.

So I have no problem with Kaep backing the Brady, you still have to throw the ball and drubbing cannot be attributed all to deflated balls.

Agree, QBs tend to support each other and I actually like Kaepernick coming out saying no big deal.

Under flated, over flated, who gives a s**t! - Adam Sandler

Originally posted by Harbaalke:
Under flated, over flated, who gives a s**t! - Adam Sandler

Originally posted by WildBill:
Let's get the facts straight, HE (brady did not get caught cheating- the findings by the investigator only said that he he PROBABLY knew more than not know what the Patriots staff did. If the NFL suspends him, he can probably win in a court of law.

BTW-a writer and radio announcer both said it best, it is NOT brady's job to gauge the football if it is within the perimeters. IT IS THE REFEREES job, if they felt nothing wrong, why would Brady, all he is responsible for is if the ball is dry, not slick and to his liking. Just like baseball umpires if the ball is marked.

So I have no problem with Kaep backing the Brady, you still have to throw the ball and drubbing cannot be attributed all to deflated balls.

It's also the QBs job. After all, he touches the ball every single play. If he notices something wrong with the ball, he's kind of liable if he doesn't report it.

I'm not buying that a professional QB, who handles a football hundreds, if not thousands, of times per day for the last 20 years couldn't tell the balls (not just one, but multiple) were under inflated.

That's kind of like saying a chef can't tell if he's got rancid meat or oil to cook with. It's like saying a mechanic is going to use a hammer to unscrew your oil cap during an oil change.

Professionals know their trade and they know the tools of their trade.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was simply the first time anyone caught him under inflating the balls.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

In any case, to stay on topic, Kaepernick had three major issues that I had problems with last season:

1) Decision-Making: Forcing the primary read no matter what and scrambling and RUNNING OUT OF BOUNDS FOR A LOSS instead of throwing it away. PLEASE.. PLEASE just throw the ball away if it's not there. 0 yards gained is better than -3 or more yards lost.

2) Vision: Looking deep. And looking deep. And looking deep but NEVER looking short or at the outlets. One fundamental vision/progression teaching for QBs is to look high-low. CK endured a lot of pressure because he only looked high -- he REFUSED to take what the defense gave him. Instead of taking the first down or potential big play from the shorter routes, he was far, far to insistent on waiting and hoping the deep route would open up. Too focused on the 50 yard bombs or deep TDs.

3) Touch: Too many rocket balls on the few passes he did make to the flats. Receivers seemed to really struggle catching slants -- even Boldin -- and I think this was also partly due to CK often times telegraphing that route.

Decision making: I agree with your assessment and think that it is a manifestation of one of his somewhat weaker attributes (all quarterbacks have weaknesses) - situational and field awareness. I suspect that the Harbaugh/Roman system tended to exaggerate this weakness. I think he will generally improve in situational and field awareness as he gets more experienced and I suspect he will have little to no problem with taking a loss by running out of bounds rather than just throw the ball away (I think he showed improvement with that toward the end of the season.)

Vision: I think Kap's relative weakness (relative especially to greats like Aaron Rodgers) in situational/field awareness plays into this as well. Probably too often, he doesn't seem to feel confident in anticipating where the receiver will get free and so he seems to want to wait a couple more beats to make sure. His rifle arm helps him get away with that (and he probably relied on that heavily in college), but backfield defensive players in the NFL are really quick and/or fast so that his waiting often limits the receiver's YAC. (I'm not saying he does that all the time - far from it; it's something he needs more work on avoiding, though.)

Touch: yep

That's probably Kaepernick's biggest weakness, anticipation.

It's also one of the hardest deficiency to correct.

Fortunately, Kaepernick has way more positive attributes than negative ones.

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
That's probably Kaepernick's biggest weakness, anticipation.

It's also one of the hardest deficiency to correct.

Fortunately, Kaepernick has way more positive attributes than negative ones.

all of his physical things he needs to improve on he can do and has been doing. my issue with ck is that he let players on the other team get to him last year when he was frustrated. you let a player know that they can get to you,, you are begging for trouble. so i hope this year when a guy makes a good play against ck or talks trash to him, ck will just ignore him and play the game

Something I forgot to mention in my previous post: another thing I want Kap to leave behind is his tendency to too often when he's trying to avoid a sack to run back several yards and then make a wide pivoting (he's a big guy) sort of "juke" with his back turned to the line of scrimmage. Too often it seems like that lands him right into the hands of another rusher for a large loss of yards and a nasty hit and maybe a fumbling of the ball.

Originally posted by cciowa:
all of his physical things he needs to improve on he can do and has been doing. my issue with ck is that he let players on the other team get to him last year when he was frustrated. you let a player know that they can get to you,, you are begging for trouble. so i hope this year when a guy makes a good play against ck or talks trash to him, ck will just ignore him and play the game

Word, Kap needs to do what Luck does, and congratulate the guy that gets him. Basically a troll job but its effective.

I want that 2012 vs patriots Kaep this year

Originally posted by bors:
I want that 2012 vs patriots Kaep this year

lol well first things first our new OC needs to calls plays to his strengths...we saw what happens when they do