All22 Analysis - Coverages & Concepts

Mike Daniels discusses stopping the run from the 3tech position. Unfortunately, the NFL only put a preview on YouTube. The full session, where he goes into pass rushing techniques, requires subscription to NFL GamePass.

Originally posted by thl408:
Mike Daniels discusses stopping the run from the 3tech position. Unfortunately, the NFL only put a preview on YouTube. The full session, where he goes into pass rushing techniques, requires subscription to NFL GamePass.

Oh man. Mike Daniels talking about flipping his hips and driving thru Freeman like a double leg is sublime. My two biggest loves in life(football+combat sports) meet.



NFL is taking my money this season if this is the type of stuff they're putting out.

Any chance we can get a breakdown of Jalen Ramsey getting schemed by Jimmy and company?

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Any chance we can get a breakdown of Jalen Ramsey getting schemed by Jimmy and company?

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/189224-coaches-film-analysis-2017-season/page107/

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Any chance we can get a breakdown of Jalen Ramsey getting schemed by Jimmy and company?

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/189224-coaches-film-analysis-2017-season/page107/

Thanks!

Thl, you'll finally get to have a breakdown after tomorrow today!

It seems like as if the slide protection is NOT the usual pass protection scheme. What is it then? Simple triangles?

Originally posted by communist:
It seems like as if the slide protection is NOT the usual pass protection scheme. What is it then? Simple triangles?

Pass pro is typically man or zone, and can be half and half on any given play. Slide protection is a type of zone blocking. Maybe WRATHMAN can explain in better detail. I don't know enough to say whether slide is or is not the usual protection scheme - that's probably team specific, or gameplan specific.

in general, I was always thinking that they just block whoever is next. I mean, it looks like they fall back to a pocket and that's all.

Originally posted by communist:
in general, I was always thinking that they just block whoever is next. I mean, it looks like they fall back to a pocket and that's all.

It does look like they block whoever is across from them. The man vs zone blocking pass protection difference really shows when DLmen stunt and loop. That's when it's more obvious whether an OL is using zone or man protection.

yo thl lol

Originally posted by Heroism:
yo thl lol

Red Burkhead touchdown run -

I formation zone lead blocking: Gronkowski and Trent Brown (LT) combo block to the LB. Thuney (LG) and Andrews (C) convo block to the LB - Andrews finished his man. Mason (RG) cut blocks the backside 1 technique. Develin (FB) kicks out the EMLOS: pic.twitter.com/qqHeIIrzU6

— Patriots Film (@PatriotsFilm) January 13, 2019

This is regarding running outside zone near the goal line, which we've discussed earlier this season. Great blocks by Gronk and TBrown there. I wonder how much of NE's success running outside zone so close to the goal line has to do with their ability to run gap blocking concepts between the tackles. So defenses respect the run game between the tackles, NE then hits them with outside zone.

Question for you SME's in here.

Why does this particular cover 3 like tall and lengthy CB's if they play off the LOS and in zone so much? Wouldn't tall and lengthy CB's be more ideal in press/man? And if we play off so much and in zone, wouldn't a smaller, quicker, faster CB be more ideal (Fangio)?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Wouldn't tall and lengthy CB's be more ideal in press/man?

Press, yes; man, no. Taller athletes have longer limbs with a higher center of gravity, which makes it harder to be quick in small spaces, drop weight and change direction. That's why most tall corners suck at mirroring WRs across the field. This is also why Shanny tends to stay away from tall WRs.

One of the tenets of this scheme is that they play cover 3 with the corners in press alignment. The corners only play on a vertical plane, so they can get away with the aforementioned weaknesses. I imagine they like big, tall corners because bigger typically means stouter for tackling and taller typically means longer for being handsy with WR and advantageous in attacking the ball at its highest point.

Smaller/quicker/faster CBs are typically better suited for man where they can mirror a WR. The best man corner that I've ever seen was Darrelle Revis(I was too young to appreciate Deion), and he was 5-11, 190 lbs.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Wouldn't tall and lengthy CB's be more ideal in press/man?

Press, yes; man, no. Taller athletes have longer limbs with a higher center of gravity, which makes it harder to be quick in small spaces, drop weight and change direction. That's why most tall corners suck at mirroring WRs across the field. This is also why Shanny tends to stay away from tall WRs.

One of the tenets of this scheme is that they plan cover 3 with the corners in press alignment. The corners only play on a vertical plane, so they can get away with the afforementioned weaknesses. I imagine they like big, tall corners because bigger typically means stouter for tackling and taller typically means longer for being handsy with WR and advantageous in attacking the ball at its highest point.

Smaller/quicker/faster CBs are typically better suited for man where they can mirror a WR.

Ahhh, that makes a ton of sense then. Thanks for that detailed account.