The reason this defense likes tall CBs is very related to what Hero said about how they are often asked to play their 1/3 column. Besides length helping to disrupt at the line, and possibly being more physical on tackles, the routes they are often asked to defend are better defended by being lengthy. Specifically speaking, the vertical routes up the sideline.
So when playing zone, it's about using length to make plays on the ball. But when asked to man up, in many situations, CBs in this scheme are manned up on WRs that are split wide and near the sideline. When a WR is lined up near the sideline like this, there are a very limited number of routes they can run (Go/Fade, Deep Out/Curl, Post) - all routes up the sideline.
We've discussed the Cover3 'Mable' call and how one CB will be playing man while everyone else on the field is playing Cover3. That CB manned up is often defending a lone WR on the weakside, split wide outside the numbers. RCB (bottom of screen) manned up while everyone else playing Cover3.
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Jan 25, 2019 at 9:44 AM
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^ Good stuff thl!
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Originally posted by Heroism:
yo thl lol
Red Burkhead touchdown run -
— Patriots Film (@PatriotsFilm) January 13, 2019
I formation zone lead blocking: Gronkowski and Trent Brown (LT) combo block to the LB. Thuney (LG) and Andrews (C) convo block to the LB - Andrews finished his man. Mason (RG) cut blocks the backside 1 technique. Develin (FB) kicks out the EMLOS: pic.twitter.com/qqHeIIrzU6
yo thl lol
Feb 3, 2019 at 7:19 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by Heroism:yo thl lol
Red Burkhead touchdown run -
— Patriots Film (@PatriotsFilm) January 13, 2019
I formation zone lead blocking: Gronkowski and Trent Brown (LT) combo block to the LB. Thuney (LG) and Andrews (C) convo block to the LB - Andrews finished his man. Mason (RG) cut blocks the backside 1 technique. Develin (FB) kicks out the EMLOS: pic.twitter.com/qqHeIIrzU6
yo thl lol
But, but....I thought zone blocking doesn't work in the RZ and especially inside the 2-3 yard line.
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Oct 16, 2019 at 9:22 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:The reason this defense likes tall CBs is very related to what Hero said about how they are often asked to play their 1/3 column. Besides length helping to disrupt at the line, and possibly being more physical on tackles, the routes they are often asked to defend are better defended by being lengthy. Specifically speaking, the vertical routes up the sideline.
So when playing zone, it's about using length to make plays on the ball. But when asked to man up, in many situations, CBs in this scheme are manned up on WRs that are split wide and near the sideline. When a WR is lined up near the sideline like this, there are a very limited number of routes they can run (Go/Fade, Deep Out/Curl, Post) - all routes up the sideline.
We've discussed the Cover3 'Mable' call and how one CB will be playing man while everyone else on the field is playing Cover3. That CB manned up is often defending a lone WR on the weakside, split wide outside the numbers. RCB (bottom of screen) manned up while everyone else playing Cover3.
Very informative thank you
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What happened to the pics?
Dec 31, 2019 at 2:13 PM
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Originally posted by communist:What happened to the pics?
Photobucket sucks. I'll look to re-do this thread during the offseason. Most of the cut ups are from Harbaugh days. It's time to update it with Kyle and Jimmy.
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Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by communist:What happened to the pics?
Photobucket sucks. I'll look to re-do this thread during the offseason. Most of the cut ups are from Harbaugh days. It's time to update it with Kyle and Jimmy.
Photobucket and TinyPic destroyed us.
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by communist:What happened to the pics?
Photobucket sucks. I'll look to re-do this thread during the offseason. Most of the cut ups are from Harbaugh days. It's time to update it with Kyle and Jimmy.
Photobucket and TinyPic destroyed us.
It's as if I don't even exist anymore.
Dec 31, 2019 at 3:31 PM
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Originally posted by Niners816:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by communist:What happened to the pics?
Photobucket sucks. I'll look to re-do this thread during the offseason. Most of the cut ups are from Harbaugh days. It's time to update it with Kyle and Jimmy.
Photobucket and TinyPic destroyed us.
It's as if I don't even exist anymore.
Oct 28, 2022 at 3:55 PM
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Kyle's Keeper, Leak, Dagger and yankee concepts
Oct 28, 2022 at 4:45 PM
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What does the red asterisk and the green # mean?
oh man. This thread is so old. I was going to update with more recent stuff but the NFL's All22 went to poo poo in 2020/21. It's back now so maybe I'll finally get around to it.
oh man. This thread is so old. I was going to update with more recent stuff but the NFL's All22 went to poo poo in 2020/21. It's back now so maybe I'll finally get around to it.
Oct 28, 2022 at 5:49 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
What does the red asterisk and the green # mean?
oh man. This thread is so old. I was going to update with more recent stuff but the NFL's All22 went to poo poo in 2020/21. It's back now so maybe I'll finally get around to it.
The green # is the field numbers. So on that "widen Dover" since it's from a reduced split, you want that route going around the field numbers before the in cut portion. Kinda gives it its shape.
My guess for the asterisks is that means it's a spot throw....so on Leak, the Primary is the crosser....however, If the Primary and secondary are covered you know there's a potential leak shot that could be naked but it's got to fully develop 25-30 yards down field.
Oct 28, 2022 at 7:01 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
What does the red asterisk and the green # mean?
oh man. This thread is so old. I was going to update with more recent stuff but the NFL's All22 went to poo poo in 2020/21. It's back now so maybe I'll finally get around to it.
Here's a sample Route page. It's has that "Dover" route which is basically Kyle's deep in. It talks about the numbers from a tight split
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Oct 28, 2022 at 7:06 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
What does the red asterisk and the green # mean?
oh man. This thread is so old. I was going to update with more recent stuff but the NFL's All22 went to poo poo in 2020/21. It's back now so maybe I'll finally get around to it.
yea wtf bro. bring it back to life