Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by tmpluff:
Well, Before recent times Players like Joe, and Phil Simms, Ken Stabler ext..... Were Being hit way after they got rid of the ball with no penalty from the refs, (besides possible retaliation from O-Lineman) That really hasn't been the case with Brady the mental toll of being hit messes with some people. we saw how Brady was less than accurate in the 07 SB after being hit a bunch of times (Legally the Giants D-Line were beasts) I mean he missed a wide open Moss off the top of my head because he short hopped it due to being hit a lot in that game. Now imagine he was plastered similar to that every game? What If Joe didn't have to worry about being hit late without getting an easy 15 yards? This has been stated in this thread numerous times, but it's worth being brought up again when this thread starts trending again. Like wise Brady did get the benefit of the Tuck-Rule a whole new rule was made from a play that in itself put you in the SB. ( It was a Fumble IMO and should have put the Raiders in the SB they could have run the clockout) Now Both are 1 and 2 on the all time list we are splitting hairs here. but I still go with Joe!
What are you talking about? That rule was already in place and it was called properly. You can say it was a stupid rule but it wasn't somehow made up for Brady. It also didn't automatically win the game for the Pats. Brady still had to drive down the field to get them into FG range and had to do it again in overtime. In a blizzard btw, how many games did Joe have in blizzard conditions in the playoffs?
And back to the QB protection thing. Joe got taken out on a hit that would be legal today. The whole issue of people bringing up the protections is that Brady is safe...yet the guys hitting him are bigger, stronger and faster than Joe had to play against. And just because some hits draw flags these days doesn't automatically mean defenders won't take them. I'm sure plenty of guys would love to end Brady's career or just take him out of a game since it likely means their team will win.
And all QBs are less effective when they're getting their ass kicked. Very few guys play at a high level when they're eating dirt every snap.
Um, 1- It would have been called a fumble today. it wasn't then. Hence the rule was changed.
2- Game would have been over because there was less than 2 min. left in the game and the Pats were out of timeouts. so the raiders could just Kneel
3- that's a trick question because Montana was normally home in the playoffs, didn't usually snow at the stick. but he played at Notre Dame so I'm sure he could play in the snow!!
4- They may be bigger stronger and faster today. but they might not be. Deon and Bo Jackson could probably outrun most of todays players, Reggie White and Singletary I'd say were far meaner than most today,
5- as far as the play that took Montana out, ooh please Yes That ONE play is legal that took him out, injuries will happen what about the 4-5 hits the previous 10 plays that are borderline at best today that he bounced right up from? Likewise one or two people on some teams are willing to get flags to take out brady how about having all 11 on every team? Little different. don't you think?
6- Also I'd like to point out not all QB's get affected when you plaster them. ELI kept going just normal in the 2012 Championship game. Despite us plowing him into the ground over and over and over again!!!!
We know your Vote is for Brady, buddy don't worry that's be noted!
[ Edited by tmpluff on Jul 23, 2017 at 4:12 PM ]
