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Joe Montana Legacy Secured
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:07 AM
- 9ers4eva
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So is Bill Russell the best NBA player ever then?
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:09 AM
- Constantine
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In 4 months this post will be 3 years old... I can tell you I had more ammunition to back up one of my all time favorite Joe Montana back then... then I do now. Personally I will always choice Montana over Brady any day of the week... Thier greatnessed was earned in different eras of style of football then each other without the lingering thought of cheating. Honestly Brady's last year comeback in the Superbowl was nothing short then greatness and I can honesty say as a QB I can respect him now... but Joe Cool all the way.
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Jan 24, 2018 at 7:17 AM
- TheWooLick
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Is Belichick > Walsh?
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:22 AM
- tjd808185
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:Bill Belichick could have gotten the same out of Alex Smith. Brady benefits from the system he is in just like all the Edelman and Amendola type guys.
Remembers his career record before Brady was 41-47. He'd be a DC without him.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Jan 24, 2018 at 7:22 AM ]
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:22 AM
- Constantine
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Is Belichick > Walsh?
Did Walsh ever cheat like Belichick...
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:23 AM
- PrisonOfGlass
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Originally posted by Bali-Niner:Why do supposed hard-core Niner fans, on a 49er site spend all these pages to glorify Brady? I don't get it, I don't wanna get it, I care care less about freakin Brady.. GO NINERS!!
My bad. I'll stop being objective when I talk about football moving forward. I keep forgetting that we exist in a bubble. Thanks for the reminder.
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:27 AM
- Constantine
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Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Why do supposed hard-core Niner fans, on a 49er site spend all these pages to glorify Brady? I don't get it, I don't wanna get it, I care care less about freakin Brady.. GO NINERS!!
My bad. I'll stop being objective when I talk about football moving forward. I keep forgetting that we exist in a bubble. Thanks for the reminder.
This isn't bubble talk, this is talking about one Legacy versus the other, and for those who watch both eras it's important.
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:38 AM
- valrod33
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Hi Haters, The GOAT will dancing in the streets celebrating his 6th Super Bowl victory
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:41 AM
- Cjez
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Originally posted by valrod33:dem moves
Hi Haters, The GOAT will dancing in the streets celebrating his 6th Super Bowl victory
Jan 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM
- valrod33
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Jan 24, 2018 at 8:16 AM
- CatchMaster80
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These arguments about who is the greatest ever in any sport or at any position drive me crazy. The way games are played changes every 15-20 years based on rule changes and current trends. Let's just take this Montana-Brady argument. Montana had a much better team around him and I have no doubt any of his teams would beat New England. When there was no salary cap teams could load up and had far more depth than todays teams. But that went for all teams, not just the Niners. Brady has been playing in one of the weakest divisions in football for most of his career. The other 3 teams have gone thru 42 starting QB's and several coaches during Brady's run. Getting to the Super Bowl has been far easier for New England. He has not had to face teams like Dallas, the New York Giants, the Packers, the Redskins and the Bears. And that was just to get to the Super Bowl. He has not gone up against coaches like Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcels, Mike Holmgren, and Joe Gibbs. Todays rules don't allow the defense to put as much pressure on the QB for fear of being penalized. DB's can't bang the receivers like they used to. No question Brady has better stats and more Super Bowls but with all the changes in the game who's to say how many yards and wins Montana would have had under today's rules and style. Jerry Rice said he would have loved to play with todays rules. The passing game is much more dominant now. Look at last weeks game. New England barely ran the ball in their comeback. Compare that with the Niners in the 1981 championship game against Dallas. Sure Montana threw the winning touchdown but it was the running of Ricky Patton and others that moved the Niners down the field and ate up the clock to set up the winning TD. The point of all this is that the way games are played is constantly changing. I think it is ridiculous to try and compare eras. Let's just say Brady is the greatest of his era, Montana the greatest of his and Unitas the greatest of his. Just like you can't compare Babe Ruth to Mays you can't compare QB's that played under different rules and in different eras.
Jan 24, 2018 at 9:07 AM
- Constantine
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
These arguments about who is the greatest ever in any sport or at any position drive me crazy. The way games are played changes every 15-20 years based on rule changes and current trends. Let's just take this Montana-Brady argument. Montana had a much better team around him and I have no doubt any of his teams would beat New England. When there was no salary cap teams could load up and had far more depth than todays teams. But that went for all teams, not just the Niners. Brady has been playing in one of the weakest divisions in football for most of his career. The other 3 teams have gone thru 42 starting QB's and several coaches during Brady's run. Getting to the Super Bowl has been far easier for New England. He has not had to face teams like Dallas, the New York Giants, the Packers, the Redskins and the Bears. And that was just to get to the Super Bowl. He has not gone up against coaches like Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcels, Mike Holmgren, and Joe Gibbs. Todays rules don't allow the defense to put as much pressure on the QB for fear of being penalized. DB's can't bang the receivers like they used to. No question Brady has better stats and more Super Bowls but with all the changes in the game who's to say how many yards and wins Montana would have had under today's rules and style. Jerry Rice said he would have loved to play with todays rules. The passing game is much more dominant now. Look at last weeks game. New England barely ran the ball in their comeback. Compare that with the Niners in the 1981 championship game against Dallas. Sure Montana threw the winning touchdown but it was the running of Ricky Patton and others that moved the Niners down the field and ate up the clock to set up the winning TD. The point of all this is that the way games are played is constantly changing. I think it is ridiculous to try and compare eras. Let's just say Brady is the greatest of his era, Montana the greatest of his and Unitas the greatest of his. Just like you can't compare Babe Ruth to Mays you can't compare QB's that played under different rules and in different eras.
Good post and a good way to represent a different perspective
Jan 24, 2018 at 10:02 AM
- DonaldTrump
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Nobody called down the thunder and answered it like Montana NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY!!!
Jan 24, 2018 at 10:04 AM
- DonaldTrump
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Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Why do supposed hard-core Niner fans, on a 49er site spend all these pages to glorify Brady? I don't get it, I don't wanna get it, I care care less about freakin Brady.. GO NINERS!!
THIS
Jan 24, 2018 at 10:47 AM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by DonaldTrump:
Nobody called down the thunder and answered it like Montana NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY!!!
should have kept him and traded young. then you keep haley in my opinion. it would have forced the team to address running back after waters left. etc