Joe Montana Legacy Secured

Originally posted by RonMexico:
Trent Dilfer > Tom Brady

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by RonMexico:
Trent Dilfer > Tom Brady

Tom Brady playoff win % = 75%
Trent Dilfer playoff win % = 83%

Stats are for losers but they don't lie.

Originally posted by DonaldTrump:


PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP RIGHT HERE, WITHOUT A DOUBT MONTANA IS THE MASTER AND BRADY, MANNING ETC ETC ARE JUST HIS STUDENTS, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN (OPINIONS) BUT THE FACT REMAINS THIS IS THE PLAYER THEY ALL SOUGHT TO BE

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Montana is still the GOAT. GOATS dont lose championships or wear uggs.

Compromise, Joe is the goat at super bowl winning percentage but when it comes to every other qb measurable he's #2 including total Superbowl wins.

Probably, but if Brady played in the 80's taking hits like Joe did his head would have flown off his body, rolled through the tunnel, past the locker room and right into the parking lot where someone tailgating would've added it to the grill.

The irony is that Brady first played in the league under many of the same rules that Montana did. Linemen on avg today are also about 30lbs heavier, faster and stronger than their counterparts in the 80s even LT the guy who broke Joe's back is only listed at 237lbs. Cheap shots also still happen even in today's NFL and gruesome injuries still take place in a regular basis. Joe was also a risk taking scrambler who was prone to taking more punishment than Brady who is more Marino like in the pocket protecting himself.

https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/nfl-ops-honoring-the-game/health-safety-rules-changes/

Look at 1995. Are you serious?? Completely changed the what defenses played versus today and the way the game was called. "Hearing footsteps" was a term coined before this rule and for good reason. Everyone LOVES Ronnie Lott but many of Lotts big hits would have fallen into this category. Again I will say the NFL brain trust collectively thought defenses had a clear advantage over offenses. "Flagrant (big) Hits" could get you suspended, not to mention the "Illegal Contact" rule from 2004. LT's hit on Montana if done in 1995 on would have gotten him suspended. Yeah, cheap shots happen, but it's more likely MOST defensive players will pull up because they know it's going to cost them a game check or more. Let's stop pretending things aren't drastically different. And don't believe me, read the history of the league. The game was intentionally changed significantly for both parity and "entertainment" value.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by DonaldTrump:


PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP RIGHT HERE, WITHOUT A DOUBT MONTANA IS THE MASTER AND BRADY, MANNING ETC ETC ARE JUST HIS STUDENTS, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN (OPINIONS) BUT THE FACT REMAINS THIS IS THE PLAYER THEY ALL SOUGHT TO BE

Where are you getting this?? Maybe Brady but he was a 49er fan growing up...

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Montana is still the GOAT. GOATS dont lose championships or wear uggs.

Compromise, Joe is the goat at super bowl winning percentage but when it comes to every other qb measurable he's #2 including total Superbowl wins.

Probably, but if Brady played in the 80's taking hits like Joe did his head would have flown off his body, rolled through the tunnel, past the locker room and right into the parking lot where someone tailgating would've added it to the grill.

The irony is that Brady first played in the league under many of the same rules that Montana did. Linemen on avg today are also about 30lbs heavier, faster and stronger than their counterparts in the 80s even LT the guy who broke Joe's back is only listed at 237lbs. Cheap shots also still happen even in today's NFL and gruesome injuries still take place in a regular basis. Joe was also a risk taking scrambler who was prone to taking more punishment than Brady who is more Marino like in the pocket protecting himself.

https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/nfl-ops-honoring-the-game/health-safety-rules-changes/

Look at 1995. Are you serious?? Completely changed the what defenses played versus today and the way the game was called. "Hearing footsteps" was a term coined before this rule and for good reason. Everyone LOVES Ronnie Lott but many of Lotts big hits would have fallen into this category. Again I will say the NFL brain trust collectively thought defenses had a clear advantage over offenses. "Flagrant (big) Hits" could get you suspended, not to mention the "Illegal Contact" rule from 2004. LT's hit on Montana if done in 1995 on would have gotten him suspended. Yeah, cheap shots happen, but it's more likely MOST defensive players will pull up because they know it's going to cost them a game check or more. Let's stop pretending things aren't drastically different. And don't believe me, read the history of the league. The game was intentionally changed significantly for both parity and "entertainment" value.

Hearing footsteps still exsists. There have been hits on qbs since that are as bad and worse. QBs even with the protection today are getting knocked out of seasons with massive hits.

But there's a big difference between it being called and not being called because it was considered a "fair play."

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by DonaldTrump:


PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP RIGHT HERE, WITHOUT A DOUBT MONTANA IS THE MASTER AND BRADY, MANNING ETC ETC ARE JUST HIS STUDENTS, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN (OPINIONS) BUT THE FACT REMAINS THIS IS THE PLAYER THEY ALL SOUGHT TO BE

Where are you getting this?? Maybe Brady but he was a 49er fan growing up...

Sammy Baugh - Johnny Unitas - Terry Bradshaw - Joe Montana - Tom Brady

They all idolized someone before them and then took over as the greatest of their time. It's the circle of life.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

brady would dominate the 80's; more so than Joe. If you think about it, the 49ers should've done more between the 80's and 90's.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
brady would dominate the 80's; more so than Joe. If you think about it, the 49ers should've done more between the 80's and 90's.

See this is where I can't go with you. Joe regularly competed against HOFers to get to his SBs and the league was smaller and had MUCH better QB play. MUCH. Like not even close.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
brady would dominate the 80's; more so than Joe. If you think about it, the 49ers should've done more between the 80's and 90's.

lol , you are entitled to your opinion...but what a crock of s**t ...IMO of course

Originally posted by Joecool:
Bills, Dolphins, Jets

Enough said.