Regardless of what happens tomorrow cooler heads will prevail with the understanding that it goes:
1.A Joe Montana
1.B Tom Brady
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Feb 3, 2018 at 3:28 AM
- DonaldTrump
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Feb 3, 2018 at 3:38 AM
- pdizo916
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Originally posted by DonaldTrump:
Regardless of what happens tomorrow cooler heads will prevail with the understanding that it goes:
1.A Tom Brady
1.B Joe Montana
I agree.
Feb 3, 2018 at 3:46 AM
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Originally posted by English:Originally posted by pdizo916:Originally posted by Joecool:Bills, Dolphins, Jets
Enough said.
all legendary franchises until Brady showed up.
Legendary? . Bills zero Super Bowl wins. Dolphins 2 Super Bowl wins, most recent 1974. Jets one Super Bowl win, 1969. Legendary if you mean the definition of stuff from the dawn of time .
So let me see now. The last year Buffalo appeared in a Super Bowl was 1993. Miami 1984. Jets 1969. Brady drafted? 2000.
Miami, Buffalo and the Jets didnt need Brady. They were perfectly capable of being crap without him playing for the Patriots.
This, imagine if you will perhaps Bledsoe doesnt get injured? brady eventually selling insurance. belicheat Couped up in a coordinators coaching box like Dom capers and the pathetic afc east still sitting at 3 total Super Bowl championships
[ Edited by DonaldTrump on Feb 3, 2018 at 3:48 AM ]
Feb 3, 2018 at 4:15 AM
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Originally posted by pdizo916:Originally posted by DonaldTrump:Regardless of what happens tomorrow cooler heads will prevail with the understanding that it goes:
1.A Tom Brady
1.B Joe Montana
I agree.
Tide pods?????
Feb 3, 2018 at 5:56 AM
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Originally posted by DonaldTrump:Tide pods?????
Fake news better for you?
Feb 3, 2018 at 5:59 AM
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Originally posted by Garce:Quarterbacks Joe Montana Faced in a SuperBowl:
Kenny Anderson: 1981 MVP, All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler
Final Score - 26-21
Dan Marino: HOFer. One of the Best of All Time at the position. Record holder for most TDs in season (1984). 9x Pro Bowler. 1984 MVP.
Final Score - 38-16
John Elway: 2x SB Winner. 1987 MVP. All Pro. 9 Pro Bowls.
Final Score 55-10
Boomer Esaison: 1988 MVP, 4x Pro Bowler,
Final Score 20-16
Average Score Differential: 19 points.
Tom Brady SB Opposing QBs
Kurt Warner: HOF, Super Bowl Winner, MVP
Final Score - 20-17
Jake Delhomme: 1x Pro Bowl
Final Score - 32-29
Donovan McNabb: 6x Pro Bowls
Final Score - 24-21
Russell Wilson, SB Winner
Final Score - 28-24
Matt Ryan: MVP
Final Score - 34-28
Average Score Differential: 3.8 (wins only)
Interesting. Every single opponent Montana faced won the MVP the year they met in the Super Bowl, with the exception of Elway, winning it two years prior.
Two of which, are considered some of the greatest to ever play the position.
Brady faced only one HOFer and one borderline future HOF in Matt Ryan. Who, largely outplayed him most of last year and barely won by an average of 3.8 points to Montana's 19 average margins.
I think it's fair to say Montana faced higher quality QBs than Brady without a doubt and performed better overall in each Super Bowl with the margin victory reflecting that point.
Does that really mean much? What say you?
Brady has beaten some pretty great QBs to get to the SB over the years. You have to get to the SB and he has no control over who gets to play the Pats from the NFC. Pretty silly thing to look at IMO.
Outside of Marino and Elway the QBs Brady faced are all better than the other guys Joe faced...well not Delhomme.
Feb 3, 2018 at 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by genus49:Brady has beaten some pretty great QBs to get to the SB over the years. You have to get to the SB and he has no control over who gets to play the Pats from the NFC. Pretty silly thing to look at IMO.
Outside of Marino and Elway the QBs Brady faced are all better than the other guys Joe faced...well not Delhomme.
I don't agree. I wouldn't say McNabb is better than Anderson or Esaison. If anything that are on par.
Feb 3, 2018 at 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by DonaldTrump:Originally posted by crabman82:Your list very cleary has elway as 87 mvp and they played in the sb after ths 89 season. So he didnt play opposite a mvp qb from that year in every sb. Also matt ryan will be in hof as will russ wilson, like it or not those guys are almost locks. Plus the niners d shutting down all these great qb kinda shows u montana had more help than many are willing to acknowledge.
"Ryan and Wilson hof locks"................
Lol Wut?
Disagree? Its not about what you personally think about them as we dont have a vote. Wilson has a ring plus several stats that are right there with the leaders after 6 seasons played. His s**t year this year still led the league in td passes. Ryan has a mvp award and also will have the stats to get in. U can dislike the players but to be so naive to think they wont be in hof is crazy. The media blows both of them now, what u think its gonna be when they pad the stats over the next decade?
[ Edited by crabman82 on Feb 3, 2018 at 10:26 AM ]
Feb 3, 2018 at 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by pdizo916:you 49er fans are insecure because Tom is the GOAT? Give it a rest....
Lol. You do try hard , I'll give you that
Feb 3, 2018 at 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by pdizo916:you 49er fans are insecure because Tom is the GOAT? Give it a rest....
Lol. You do try hard , I'll give you that
It's honestly embarrassing
Feb 3, 2018 at 1:02 PM
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Originally posted by Garce:Originally posted by pdizo916:you 49er fans are insecure because Tom is the GOAT? Give it a rest....
Take your own advice.
NO U!
Feb 3, 2018 at 2:57 PM
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Originally posted by pdizo916:you 49er fans are insecure because Tom is the GOAT? Give it a rest....
Why do you post here if you are not a 49er fan? Seems odd.
Feb 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by pdizo916:you 49er fans are insecure because Tom is the GOAT? Give it a rest....
Why do you post here if you are not a 49er fan? Seems odd.
Masochism.
Feb 3, 2018 at 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by Garce:Quarterbacks Joe Montana Faced in a SuperBowl:
Kenny Anderson: 1981 MVP, All-Pro 4x Pro Bowler
Final Score - 26-21
Dan Marino: HOFer. One of the Best of All Time at the position. Record holder for most TDs in season (1984). 9x Pro Bowler. 1984 MVP.
Final Score - 38-16
John Elway: 2x SB Winner. 1987 MVP. All Pro. 9 Pro Bowls.
Final Score 55-10
Boomer Esaison: 1988 MVP, 4x Pro Bowler,
Final Score 20-16
Average Score Differential: 19 points.
Tom Brady SB Opposing QBs
Kurt Warner: HOF, Super Bowl Winner, MVP
Final Score - 20-17
Jake Delhomme: 1x Pro Bowl
Final Score - 32-29
Donovan McNabb: 6x Pro Bowls
Final Score - 24-21
Russell Wilson, SB Winner
Final Score - 28-24
Matt Ryan: MVP
Final Score - 34-28
Average Score Differential: 3.8 (wins only)
Interesting. Every single opponent Montana faced won the MVP the year they met in the Super Bowl, with the exception of Elway, winning it two years prior.
Two of which, are considered some of the greatest to ever play the position.
Brady faced only one HOFer and one borderline future HOF in Matt Ryan. Who, largely outplayed him most of last year and barely won by an average of 3.8 points to Montana's 19 average margins.
I think it's fair to say Montana faced higher quality QBs than Brady without a doubt and performed better overall in each Super Bowl with the margin victory reflecting that point.
Does that really mean much? What say you?
The reality is Brady is just facing the MVP in the AFC conference finals. When you got Manning winning that award 5 times .
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Feb 3, 2018 at 4:19 PM ]
Feb 3, 2018 at 7:52 PM
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Brady just won his 3rd NFL MVP...what's that 3 to Joe's 2?