Joe Montana Legacy Secured

Qb's are judged by championships, its just the way it is.

Joe Montana was the reason I fell in love with this team in the 80's.

If anyone can stand next to Joe? I rather it be the kid who grew up watching this franchise and loved. 4 game suspension and comes back, impressive. As far as I look at it he is one of us.

Goodell should not have pissed him off, four games suspended and he gets back. I give credit where its due.

I have nothing but respect for him. He deserves to be up there. He was one of us growing up.

I rather Tom Brady than anyone else...

https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usatoday.com/2015/02/tom-brady-the-catch-candlestick-crying/amp


"The Catch"

Thats a niner fan at heart!!

Guess what college he went to? Michigan...

Seems like Michigan and 49ers have some ties lol

Priceless...

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL " The way he crumbles the second he is touched". Ha. He has taken tons of hits over the years by guys bigger and stronger than they were in the 80s. He should get credit for his durability in addition to his obvious performance on the field.

I just laugh at how so many people in here (many of whom are too young to have even seen Joe play) just dismiss Brady as being the QB that Joe was. There is no obvious answer to who the GOAT is. When Joe was asked that same question he said the same thing and mentioned guys like Sammy Baugh. The numbers say Brady but numbers and eras are so tough to compare. What would be interesting is if they asked all the players and coaches in the HOF who they think is #1. I think a case can be made for either of the two but is certainly is not a slam dunk thats for sure.

Of course it is a slam dunk, if you saw them play. Ignore the stats. Joe was the more mobile, better read QB who threw the second most cachable ball in the NFL next to Marino. Also, his history of come from behind vicotorys is unparalleled. And he never lost the big one.

SO he is clearly the greatest qb of the post rozelle era.
If I had to pick a challenger from recent NFL it would be Rogers, not Brady.

But I like Brady, more before the knee injury than after. But he is still an asset and a positive contributor. So I am not going to slag on him because he is not Joe.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

LOL " The way he crumbles the second he is touched". Ha. He has taken tons of hits over the years by guys bigger and stronger than they were in the 80s. He should get credit for his durability in addition to his obvious performance on the field.

I just laugh at how so many people in here (many of whom are too young to have even seen Joe play) just dismiss Brady as being the QB that Joe was. There is no obvious answer to who the GOAT is. When Joe was asked that same question he said the same thing and mentioned guys like Sammy Baugh. The numbers say Brady but numbers and eras are so tough to compare. What would be interesting is if they asked all the players and coaches in the HOF who they think is #1. I think a case can be made for either of the two but is certainly is not a slam dunk thats for sure.

Of course it is a slam dunk, if you saw them play. Ignore the stats. Joe was the more mobile, better read QB who threw the second most cachable ball in the NFL next to Marino. Also, his history of come from behind vicotorys is unparalleled. And he never lost the big one.

SO he is clearly the greatest qb of the post rozelle era.
If I had to pick a challenger from recent NFL it would be Rogers, not Brady.

But I like Brady, more before the knee injury than after. But he is still an asset and a positive contributor. So I am not going to slag on him because he is not Joe.

Let's not forget the Offensive friendly NFL. Jerry Rice would be on beyond belief status along with Steve young.

Originally posted by titan:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL " The way he crumbles the second he is touched". Ha. He has taken tons of hits over the years by guys bigger and stronger than they were in the 80s. He should get credit for his durability in addition to his obvious performance on the field.

I just laugh at how so many people in here (many of whom are too young to have even seen Joe play) just dismiss Brady as being the QB that Joe was. There is no obvious answer to who the GOAT is. When Joe was asked that same question he said the same thing and mentioned guys like Sammy Baugh. The numbers say Brady but numbers and eras are so tough to compare. What would be interesting is if they asked all the players and coaches in the HOF who they think is #1. I think a case can be made for either of the two but is certainly is not a slam dunk thats for sure.

Of course it is a slam dunk, if you saw them play. Ignore the stats. Joe was the more mobile, better read QB who threw the second most cachable ball in the NFL next to Marino. Also, his history of come from behind vicotorys is unparalleled. And he never lost the big one.

SO he is clearly the greatest qb of the post rozelle era.
If I had to pick a challenger from recent NFL it would be Rogers, not Brady.

But I like Brady, more before the knee injury than after. But he is still an asset and a positive contributor. So I am not going to slag on him because he is not Joe.

Let's not forget the Offensive friendly NFL. Jerry Rice would be on beyond belief status along with Steve young.

Of course. That goes without saying.

The stat inflation is unbelievable, and nauseating to old timers who appreciate actual defending.

theyre both amazing. bradys numbers are ridiculous, montana's numbers in his era were ridiculous. pats fans will say brady, steelers fans will say bradshaw,greenbay will always say favre, broncos had elway, colts fans will say unitas and we will always say montana. these arguments are stupid and will always be totally biased, but we know Joe is the best

Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

7th SB for Brady. Most people in this board will obviously say Montana is GOAT but I seriously doubt that would be the case among most football fans. Eras are tough to compare but there is no denying the all time records, championships, and awards that Brady has won. I'm just glad NYG beat the Pats two times or there wouldnt even be a debate.

you don't think today's rules makes it easier ?

Salary cap now. Those 9ers teams were LOADED with Hal of famers. Can't say the same about the Patriots.

The opposing teams in the playoffs were also LOADED. Salary cap era changed all that so smaller market teams could compete.

Still scandals surrounding the Patriots.

I think people really discount the defenses of that era, too. Montana didn't get the protection by the league or refs that Brady enjoys. The NFL went so far to change the game to help Brady stay upright.

Montana? They teed off on him. They tried to kill the man! Still - Joe Cool

wouldve loved to see Steve and Joe in todays NFL. even Favre in his prime, theyd all put up videogame numbers every week in this soft ass NFL

Montana would be amazing in today's NFL, not just with the liberal passing rules now but with the protection of the QB. Joe got lit up really badly many many games leading to back problems, going in and out of the lineup, and shortening his career. Just imagine how many super bowls Joe would have won if he could have played as many healthy seasons as Brady! I'd guess 6

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Of course it is a slam dunk, if you saw them play. Ignore the stats. Joe was the more mobile, better read QB who threw the second most cachable ball in the NFL next to Marino. Also, his history of come from behind vicotorys is unparalleled. And he never lost the big one.

SO he is clearly the greatest qb of the post rozelle era.
If I had to pick a challenger from recent NFL it would be Rogers, not Brady.

But I like Brady, more before the knee injury than after. But he is still an asset and a positive contributor. So I am not going to slag on him because he is not Joe.

Yeah cause losing before the super bowl is WAY better than getting to the big game.

I think fans get way to worked up about these kind of subjective things. It's similar to pound for pound rankings in combat sports. 2 guys are great fighters and 50 lbs apart. They're never gonna fight so who cares. 2 qbs from different eras with different rules. They're never gonna meet in a sb or any game for that matter.

Brady is inflated, and after another SB loss, this guy will be out of the conversation

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by JimA49ers:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
As has been stated, different eras. Joe was King of his. Brady is King of this one. In my opinion, Joe is much more impressive given the rules differences.

Joe will always have "The Catch" that kickstarted the dynasty. Brady has the "Tuck Rule", "Spygate", "Deflategate", any other stupid -gate I may have missed (damn, media loves to play up Watergate with every scandal).

For me, Joe hasn't been supplanted. Still the best QB of all time.

Joe also didn't need to have the refs save him with "The Montana Rule" to get to the big game, or have his kicker win a few of the Super Bowls for him, or his opponent's coach call the biggest boneheaded play in the history of Super Bowls.
Joe also played when the game was played by men, not this upscale flag football league. Brady wouldn't have lasted nearly as long or have done well with the way he crumbles the second he is touched.

LOL " The way he crumbles the second he is touched". Ha. He has taken tons of hits over the years by guys bigger and stronger than they were in the 80s. He should get credit for his durability in addition to his obvious performance on the field.

I just laugh at how so many people in here (many of whom are too young to have even seen Joe play) just dismiss Brady as being the QB that Joe was. There is no obvious answer to who the GOAT is. When Joe was asked that same question he said the same thing and mentioned guys like Sammy Baugh. The numbers say Brady but numbers and eras are so tough to compare. What would be interesting is if they asked all the players and coaches in the HOF who they think is #1. I think a case can be made for either of the two but is certainly is not a slam dunk thats for sure.

I've seen Joe take hits, and Brady take hits. Have you ever seen Joe complain to the refs when he got hit? Seems like Brady was always in their ear on each sack. And yes, Brady did crumble on plays where he was barely touched.

I only catch two or three Patriots games every year. Each time, I try to see what makes Brady stand out. It's impossible to deny that his stats are great, and he's done a lot of winning, It's hard to evaluate him when he's got 5 hours behind that OL to make throws. It's also hard to evaluate him when many of his yards are not passing, but YAC: the Pats do an excellent job of getting blockers out front of their receivers. I can't recall many situations where he's had to improvise the way I see Rodgers or Brees do every time I see them play. Montana, too. It's hard to say.

If you could put all the HOF or HOF-worthy QBs in a simulator where all their team advantages were identical, I am skeptical that Brady would be the clear best. Behind an average or worse OL I'd rather have Rodgers or Wilson (LOL). Not that this matters, really.