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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by susweel:
Im thinking the niners have bad doctors for the team. They dont have the best interest of the team in mind but instead are telling players that all this hitting is f**king them up (which it probably is). Niners need some doctors like in the movies Any give sunday or Friday Night Lights.

Also even players from other teams are taking notice so yeah its not league wide thing.


Something's up, anyway, because coincidence can't cover all of it. Or, in the immortal words of Tampa's Gerald McCoy: Gerald McCoy @Geraldini93

"Investigation has to be coming for 49ers!! No way that many people from the same team retire coincidentally. What is going on in San Fran?"

I think this is all getting blown WAY out of proportion. Weve only had 1 player actually retire prematurely.

Patrick Willis was on two bad feet, and he didnt want to risk his longterm ability to walk on a few more years at 50% of his old capacity. He gave us a fantastic 8 year career. I wish he couldve stayed healthier, but thats how it goes sometimes. If it was an issue with the team, he wouldve requested a trade.

Justin Smith was coming off 14 HARD fought years in the trenches. His body probably took more of a beating than anyone. He had shards of bone cutting into his shoulder. He probably shouldve retired 2 years ago. The fact that it came during this offseason was coincidence.

Anthony Davis is taking a season off to let his brain heal from the injury he sustained last year. Hes so young that he probably figured he could afford to lose a season. It appears as a retirement, but he followed his announcement up by saying he would remain on the roster, and be back. He is still signed through 2020.

That leaves Chris Borland as the only guy who just up and quit on the team entirely. In that case it was just a guy who made a mistake by going into the NFL without really understanding the risks. Unfortunately for us, he realized these things after he started playing.

This weird narrative that the 49ers are all jumping ship makes no sense.

Were just seeing a changing of the guard all at once. New coaching staff, and older players moving on. Call the 49ers what you want, but they have been VERY responsible with money and the cap. They dont negotiate with free agents. They set a value price, and if someone outbids them, they let the player walk. Its a great way to stay out of "Salary Cap Hell", which we all remember.

As far as Tomsula goes, things dont add up with the people trying to say hes a joke of a hire, and the players are all leaving because of it. Every person in the business has had nothing but great things to say about Tomsula, and how loved he is by everyone hes in contact with. Jarryd Hayne picked the 49ers over the Seahawks and Lions directly because of him. Darnell Dockett chose to sign here. Torrey Smith chose to sign here on day 1, not even visiting anywhere else. Reggie Bush chose to sign here. If there was real issues in SF, there would be a buzz around the league, and players wouldnt be interested.

The build up of the Harbaugh fallout has the media on alert. Theyre looking for any and every reason to write a "possible problem with the 49ers" article.

I think it came down to this...Harbaugh was too stubborn, and too aloof to sit down with the front office and talk things out. He wanted to do everything his way, and be left alone. The problem is, when you dont fix your glaring problems after 4 years, thats going to get old. He never fixed the red zone offense, he never fix the challenge calls, he never fixed the playclock issues, etc. I think it came to a point where they gave him an ultimatum, to fire Roman and let the FO start calling some of the shots, and he told them to kick rocks. So, they fired the whole staff and hired the guy they already had in their back pocket as someone they saw as a legit franchise HC.

Justin Smith even said he didnt think, he "knew" that in 10 years Tomsula would still be a HC in the league, and that everyone on the team all knew that Tomsula would end up a HC, and it was a no-brainer.

3 players retired before they should have Wilis, Borland, Davis that is just insane number of players to retire in their prime. These men are obviously getting bad (for the team) advice probably from those pussies at Stanford medical.
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing
Originally posted by susweel:
Im thinking the niners have bad doctors for the team. They dont have the best interest of the team in mind but instead are telling players that all this hitting is f**king them up (which it probably is). Niners need some doctors like in the movies Any give sunday or Friday Night Lights.

Also even players from other teams are taking notice so yeah its not league wide thing.


Something's up, anyway, because coincidence can't cover all of it. Or, in the immortal words of Tampa's Gerald McCoy: Gerald McCoy @Geraldini93

"Investigation has to be coming for 49ers!! No way that many people from the same team retire coincidentally. What is going on in San Fran?"

How many players have gotten Staph Infection from Buccaneers facility again . NFL should investigate us right after they investigate the Bucs.
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

How can you really think this with a clear mind? I would NOT make my decision to retire from my job based on a boss leaving that I enjoyed working for.

Why would Justin, Patrick, Chris and Anthony do so? Would you?

Justin's body is done with football. No one played harder, aside from Willis and no one fought through injury more often, aside from maybe Willis.

Willis - see above (his body couldnt handle it anymore)

Chris - contemplated retirement even before he ever stepped on the field

Anthony - left months after Harbaugh was "fired"; had nothing to do with Harbaugh being gone.

Let it go.
[ Edited by 9erguy on Jun 8, 2015 at 11:26 AM ]
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Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

a post filled with screwball speculations. gee imagine that
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hmmm. Maybe. Many teams in the last 40 years have practiced hard, had long playoff runs, and employed a run dominated offense. Some of these teams even played a 16 game schedule. I dont recall so many high profile retirements being announced in one offseason.

Willis and Justin Smith were high profile.

Borland and Davis were NOT high-profile. This is the problem with spin vs fact.

borland and davis are also pussies. afraid of the future. glad eric reid is not built that way, or kendall hunter for that fact
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hmmm. Maybe. Many teams in the last 40 years have practiced hard, had long playoff runs, and employed a run dominated offense. Some of these teams even played a 16 game schedule. I dont recall so many high profile retirements being announced in one offseason.

Willis and Justin Smith were high profile.

Borland and Davis were NOT high-profile. This is the problem with spin vs fact.

borland and davis are also pussies. afraid of the future. glad eric reid is not built that way, or kendall hunter for that fact

smh far from it.
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Originally posted by susweel:
3 players retired before they should have

And you are the person to decide when a player should retire?


[ Edited by buck on Jun 8, 2015 at 12:00 PM ]
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

Ahhh.........huh?
[ Edited by Allx9er on Jun 8, 2015 at 12:03 PM ]
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by susweel:
3 players retired before they should have

And you are the person to decide when a player should retire?



Just saying they don't usually retire in their prime and not 3 of them from the same team. THE SAME TEAM
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

a post filled with screwball speculations. gee imagine that

Yup. Its just as asinine as saying Harbaugh "ran the players into the ground."
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

a post filled with screwball speculations. gee imagine that

Yup. Its just as asinine as saying Harbaugh "ran the players into the ground."

yeah its kind of comical really. sure the team had some deep playoff runs but we're talking about an era where they dont do real two a days in TC and there isnt even remotely the amount of contact in nfl practices that there used to be.
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

a post filled with screwball speculations. gee imagine that

Yup. Its just as asinine as saying Harbaugh "ran the players into the ground."

yeah its kind of comical really. sure the team had some deep playoff runs but we're talking about an era where they dont do real two a days in TC and there isnt even remotely the amount of contact in nfl practices that there used to be.

Also borland never even went to the playoffs.
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

a post filled with screwball speculations. gee imagine that

Yup. Its just as asinine as saying Harbaugh "ran the players into the ground."
its obvious he did with all of the injuries we started to get,,,, see i can play the game to
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by EndAround81:
I doubt if Harbaugh was still coach these guys wouldn't be retired..they def would be playing

a post filled with screwball speculations. gee imagine that

Yup. Its just as asinine as saying Harbaugh "ran the players into the ground."

yeah its kind of comical really. sure the team had some deep playoff runs but we're talking about an era where they dont do real two a days in TC and there isnt even remotely the amount of contact in nfl practices that there used to be.

Also borland never even went to the playoffs.
borland is a p***y, people like he and davis are "afraid" of the future. screw them.. whose fault was it borland never went to the playoffs? the same people who had no answers to why the team could score only four points a game per game in the second half of games. thank god the front office made the right decisions which were not the popular ones
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