Minnesota Vikings, week 1 coaches film analysis

Simple question.

Who had a bad day? Anybody stick out either going through major growing pains or being outmatched?

Originally posted by Niners816:
That's a great write up..,,,WCO is kinda a nebulous term nowadays. It really can mean different things. I think to most, the horizontal aspect of the offense is what they recognize it as. That's why I think this year is gonna "feel" more WCO to some (if that makes any sense).

Personally, I think the slide, waggle, floods etc... Fit kap perfectly. I'm beyond excited. Especially tying it all together is the addition of TS providing an instant vertical threat.

I think the WCO was recognizable for the things Walsh built into it that were rare or new concepts. He once (often?) said that his playbook was never ending and included every good play design he'd seen. So the WCO was meant to incorporate most football concepts.

Logan has said he started out WCO and then began installing more vertical plays as people adjusted to the horizontal plays. Walsh would like that, I think, because the whole idea is to keep evolving. Walsh' use of boxing metaphors shows his mind set...start with a plan to be aggressive but be ready to counter any of your opponents actions/reactions.

I am excited also because I believe the new coaching staff will find ways to maximize Kaepernick's skills better than the power run game did...especially the power run game with a bell cow Gore as it's focus.

Originally posted by jreff22:
Simple question.

Who had a bad day? Anybody stick out either going through major growing pains or being outmatched?

I'm going through all the passing plays and watched the game in a very disjointed manner. I'm also looking at concepts more than individual players. I see the OLine as one unit and am not really looking at who won individual battles.

Guys, someone had mentioned that there were plays when Johnson came off the bench to help outside...that we also did have a few 4-safety looks with Reid and Bethea + Tartt and Ward.

If you get a chance, can we look at those? This is new to us...

We knew coming in, we would probably starting seeing ALL of the 46 actually out on the field. These may be a few examples of that (various packages).

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by Niners816:
That's a great write up..,,,WCO is kinda a nebulous term nowadays. It really can mean different things. I think to most, the horizontal aspect of the offense is what they recognize it as. That's why I think this year is gonna "feel" more WCO to some (if that makes any sense).

Personally, I think the slide, waggle, floods etc... Fit kap perfectly. I'm beyond excited. Especially tying it all together is the addition of TS providing an instant vertical threat.

I think the WCO was recognizable for the things Walsh built into it that were rare or new concepts. He once (often?) said that his playbook was never ending and included every good play design he'd seen. So the WCO was meant to incorporate most football concepts.

Logan has said he started out WCO and then began installing more vertical plays as people adjusted to the horizontal plays. Walsh would like that, I think, because the whole idea is to keep evolving. Walsh' use of boxing metaphors shows his mind set...start with a plan to be aggressive but be ready to counter any of your opponents actions/reactions.

I am excited also because I believe the new coaching staff will find ways to maximize Kaepernick's skills better than the power run game did...especially the power run game with a bell cow Gore as it's focus.

To expand on that boxing analogy. Once the 49ers were able to establish, and continue to have success running the stretch left run (outside zone left), that was the 'jab' punch that allowed the 49ers to establish their range. Everything seemed to stem off of that. They tried a lot of things off playaction stretch left to keep MIN off balance.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Guys, someone had mentioned that there were plays when Johnson came off the bench to help outside...that we also did have a few 4-safety looks with Reid and Bethea + Tartt and Ward.

If you get a chance, can we look at those? This is new to us...

We knew coming in, we would probably starting seeing ALL of the 46 actually out on the field. These may be a few examples of that (various packages).

Aw man. I couldn't even tell who was who from the broadcast camera. It will be very difficult for me to pick out who is who from the all22. The only defensive players I could identify was Lynch (white arm sleeves), then Bow and Wilhoite because of their skin color. All the DBs looked the same, all the down linemen looked the same.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Guys, someone had mentioned that there were plays when Johnson came off the bench to help outside...that we also did have a few 4-safety looks with Reid and Bethea + Tartt and Ward.

If you get a chance, can we look at those? This is new to us...

We knew coming in, we would probably starting seeing ALL of the 46 actually out on the field. These may be a few examples of that (various packages).

Aw man. I couldn't even tell who was who from the broadcast camera. It will be very difficult for me to pick out who is who from the all22. The only defensive players I could identify was Lynch (white arm sleeves), then Bow and Wilhoite because of their skin color. All the DBs looked the same, all the down linemen looked the same.

yeah, same. Super hard to see any numbers with those jerseys...unless I had a printout of who was on the field, when, it'd be super tough to see when Ward was on the field.

2Q 1st & 10
Nice little pass to pick up +4 to Boldin.
Playaction, mini rollout, then start to flood the side of the field opposite playaction. A reoccurring theme.

Here was an example of how we didn't play "pattern-match" man coverage. I didn't focus on it the whole game to see if we didn't pattern match at all, but, I remember this play in particular how we didn't use it. BTW, it's a great play by Brock. It's the 2nd offensive play in the game by the Vikings.



We give a, no safety, look and play man-coverage with a "lurk" so we have a 5 man rush. Brock is lined up on the inside receiver on the trips side.


Minn runs a "scissors" concept here. They run a wheel route off the inside man, with a shallow crosser off the mid receiver and a "snag" route off the outside receiver. This creates a lot of traffic for Brock to fight through if he stays in man-coverage on the play(Bridgewater audibled to this play btw - good recognition by him of the man-coverage as the concept beats our coverage, but our player beats theirs). This is one reason, with Fangio, we almost never played straight man-coverage. So avoid pick plays like this. Again, I can't speak to the frequency, I may just be seeing the exception - not the rule because I haven't had time to go back through and watch all the defensive plays again, yet.


Brock first, goes over the first receiver, then has to adjust and go under the next receiver, he's really smooth through it so that he doesn't lose too much ground on Wright.


You see how well Brock navigated all the traffic and when Bridgewater throws the ball up, it's just a footrace now.


Brock's recovery speed is very impressive and he defends the pass perfectly.

Originally posted by thl408:
Here's the pass that VD flat out dropped.

That's a big gain if he just catches that. he can run at least to the 40

Remember the TD pass Gabbert threw to Celek in the preseason? This is the same play.

Curl-Flat (red) + Shallow Cross (yellow) versus Cover1
The way Shallow Cross is ran here, there is a pick/rub action as the Drag route (VD) comes underneath


The blue defender is on VD man to man, but has to go around the interference created.


+8 yards


Identical play in the Preseason

Originally posted by thl408:
To expand on that boxing analogy. Once the 49ers were able to establish, and continue to have success running the stretch left run (outside zone left), that was the 'jab' punch that allowed the 49ers to establish their range. Everything seemed to stem off of that. They tried a lot of things off playaction stretch left to keep MIN off balance.

Good point. I recall games where all the scripted plays failed to open the game, but the adjustments made based on the defences attack were effective. Kind of like a boxer jabbing and covering for a few rounds until he has an idea where the openings are. In the Minnesota game the runs were working early so they could just build off of those. Until Walsh I'd never thought of using boxing concepts to explain football!

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Guys, someone had mentioned that there were plays when Johnson came off the bench to help outside...that we also did have a few 4-safety looks with Reid and Bethea + Tartt and Ward.

If you get a chance, can we look at those? This is new to us...

We knew coming in, we would probably starting seeing ALL of the 46 actually out on the field. These may be a few examples of that (various packages).

Aw man. I couldn't even tell who was who from the broadcast camera. It will be very difficult for me to pick out who is who from the all22. The only defensive players I could identify was Lynch (white arm sleeves), then Bow and Wilhoite because of their skin color. All the DBs looked the same, all the down linemen looked the same.

I learned to like the new uniforms but it was impossible to see numbers! Watching plays over and over I still had to watch players from the opening to figure out who was who.

Originally posted by thl408:

and THAT is the layup. he probably could have tried to toss it to vance but it was a lower percentage play than the wide open pass directly in front of him. he took the layup and made it easily. that is going to be huge.

This drive ends in the first Hyde TD run. Might get back to this play later.
Outside Zone Right (stretch right)

LOL....Why is that fool still in a 3 point stance?