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Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Kap and Hyde were both forged in that formation. Also, I think Kap is going to rack up the running yardage this year. I am thinking that 700-800 yds is attainable?

I mentioned that just a few post ago. Thl and I were talking about that extreme gun/pistol bias and he mentioned the same thing about hyde and his college days. I love it as well, puts two very important players in a confortable position. Smart coaching IMO.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 16, 2015 at 4:41 PM ]
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It's time to see the new running game with Hyde at the controls. We've heard all about how the 49ers are moving to a predominantly zone blocking scheme and in this game, that held true. There were sprinkles of Power scheme, Hayne's nice run was a Trap play, but the majority was zone blocking.

One of my concerns was Boone at Guard. ZBS guards are relied upon heavily to be mobile enough to combo block and track down LBs at the second level. From what I noticed, and the results were there, Boone had a strong game. Placing both the vets in Boone and Staley to one side of the OL makes it the obvious strength. With Outside Zone Left being such an important play for the 49ers, it made sense to have the left side of the OL have experience.

I'm not going to get into specifics of zone blocking and what the general assignments are. Please refer to the Coverages and Concepts thread for that. There is also plenty of info (and illustrations) on zone blocking on various sites.

First play from scrimmage - Outside Zone Left (13 personnel)
Staley (#74) will execute a combo block with Vance (red) on the DE. VD will block the EMOLS (black)


Staley will move to the second level to find a LB (purple), leaving Vance 1v1 with the DE. Martin (#66) identifies his block.


Stlaey gets to his block. The DE (Blue) is able to shed Vance's block.


But even after shedding the block, Hyde has already passed by the DE. There is now a 3v2 situation on the edge and Hyde attacks it. VD will disengage and move upfield to block.


+9 yards
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Another thing is we were in gun or pistol 90% of the snaps. That's the highest percentage of gun/pistol snaps we've used, even going back to the late 2012 run.

Very cool. Big fan of the gun/pistol for Kap, and the play-action off the stretch zone is perfect for him. Really liked the gameplan and I hope we see continued success with this approach.

Thl and I were talking and he brought up a very good point.....it might also be because that's all that Hyde ran at OSU as well. So he has an extreme comfort level in the pistol and seeing the run reads. Kinda kills 2 birds with one stone.

This seems like an excellent example of the coaches analyzing what the players did well and then incorporating it into game plans! Very encouraging!
Originally posted by thl408:
4Q 3rd & 1
The play before Hyde's TD run.

Spider 2Y Banana. I know Dilfer said it was "Spider 2Y Snag", but this is Spider 2Y Banana. Banana because of orange's route looks like a banana - no joke. It's a Low-High read off playaction. The variation is that Patton, the Z WR is running a clearing route (purple) that goes across the formation instead of upfield.


After executing playaction, Hyde blocks the nearest threat drawn in due to the playaction. Boldin, lined up as a fullback, runs a quick flat route. The bunching of the formation causes the CBs to give some cushion and that's all the separation needed to get the first down. Kap is targeting Boldin in the flat.


+9 yards

If that play could develop a little longer in the future Patton or whoever plays his role could get serious room for a huge gainer or TD in a similar position on the field later in the season. Not sure how much the flow was based on the quick hit but it could work
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Another thing is we were in gun or pistol 90% of the snaps. That's the highest percentage of gun/pistol snaps we've used, even going back to the late 2012 run.

Very cool. Big fan of the gun/pistol for Kap, and the play-action off the stretch zone is perfect for him. Really liked the gameplan and I hope we see continued success with this approach.

Thl and I were talking and he brought up a very good point.....it might also be because that's all that Hyde ran at OSU as well. So he has an extreme comfort level in the pistol and seeing the run reads. Kinda kills 2 birds with one stone.

Yup. Really like the approach of this coaching staff. Tomsula talked about it when he was hired, evaluating the players we had and making the scheme from scratch to best suit the players. People made fun of him because he didn't articulate his thoughts as clearly, but this man knows football. He really is a players coach in that he puts them in the best position to succeed based on their skill set.
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Kap and Hyde were both forged in that formation. Also, I think Kap is going to rack up the running yardage this year. I am thinking that 700-800 yds is attainable?

I mentioned that just a few post ago. Thl and were talking about that extreme gun/pistol bias and he mentioned the same thing about hyde and his college days. I love it as well, puts two very important players in a confortable position. Smart coaching IMO.

Also, Gore liked running out of the I with a FB, which meant the QB will be under center. Hyde never ran with a FB out of the I formation in college, or with a FB at all for that matter, but he is now. We saw a lot of Vance in the backfield, and I don't think I saw Miller that often. Not sure if that is just specific to this game.
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Kap and Hyde were both forged in that formation. Also, I think Kap is going to rack up the running yardage this year. I am thinking that 700-800 yds is attainable?

Definitely attainable. He had a pretty modest 41 yards in this game, just taking what the defense gave him. If he averages 41 yards for 16 games, that's 656 yards on the season. 700-800 is definitely possible.
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JonnyDel is back Love reading this stuff

agreed, epic.
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Another thing is we were in gun or pistol 90% of the snaps. That's the highest percentage of gun/pistol snaps we've used, even going back to the late 2012 run.

Very cool. Big fan of the gun/pistol for Kap, and the play-action off the stretch zone is perfect for him. Really liked the gameplan and I hope we see continued success with this approach.

Thl and I were talking and he brought up a very good point.....it might also be because that's all that Hyde ran at OSU as well. So he has an extreme comfort level in the pistol and seeing the run reads. Kinda kills 2 birds with one stone.

Yup. Really like the approach of this coaching staff. Tomsula talked about it when he was hired, evaluating the players we had and making the scheme from scratch to best suit the players. People made fun of him because he didn't articulate his thoughts as clearly, but this man knows football. He really is a players coach in that he puts them in the best position to succeed based on their skill set.

People blasted him in that initial press interview, but he said a very profound thought. To paraphrase. Try to get the players that fit your scheme. It's not a perfect world. There will be missing pieces. So after the offseason (trades/FA/draft), you have to fit the scheme to the players.
Originally posted by teylo31:
If that play could develop a little longer in the future Patton or whoever plays his role could get serious room for a huge gainer or TD in a similar position on the field later in the season. Not sure how much the flow was based on the quick hit but it could work

Looking at that play again, it looks like you could almost carve it up into two concepts combined. You have the sail concept with VD and Boldin and you have a mesh concept with Torrey and Patton. That's kind of a nasty little combo of concepts. Great play design, if defense were to over play the flat, you could really abuse that mesh concept.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 16, 2015 at 4:54 PM ]
Originally posted by teylo31:
If that play could develop a little longer in the future Patton or whoever plays his role could get serious room for a huge gainer or TD in a similar position on the field later in the season. Not sure how much the flow was based on the quick hit but it could work

that is true but on this one it's 3rd and 1 get the 1st down and move the chains. we might run it again on 2nd and 6 and hit it for a td.
Originally posted by thl408:
People blasted him in that initial press interview, but he said a very profound thought. To paraphrase. Try to get the players that fit your scheme. It's not a perfect world. There will be missing pieces. So after the offseason (trades/FA/draft), you have to fit the scheme to the players.

And to kinda of connect it to Walsh, the WCO was born out of getting the most out of a QB with a weak arm (Virgil Carter in cincy). He too made a system that fit the skill sets available.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Another thing is we were in gun or pistol 90% of the snaps. That's the highest percentage of gun/pistol snaps we've used, even going back to the late 2012 run.

Very cool. Big fan of the gun/pistol for Kap, and the play-action off the stretch zone is perfect for him. Really liked the gameplan and I hope we see continued success with this approach.

Thl and I were talking and he brought up a very good point.....it might also be because that's all that Hyde ran at OSU as well. So he has an extreme comfort level in the pistol and seeing the run reads. Kinda kills 2 birds with one stone.

Yup. Really like the approach of this coaching staff. Tomsula talked about it when he was hired, evaluating the players we had and making the scheme from scratch to best suit the players. People made fun of him because he didn't articulate his thoughts as clearly, but this man knows football. He really is a players coach in that he puts them in the best position to succeed based on their skill set.

People blasted him in that initial press interview, but he said a very profound thought. To paraphrase. Try to get the players that fit your scheme. It's not a perfect world. There will be missing pieces. So after the offseason (trades/FA/draft), you have to fit the scheme to the players.

Those are wise words. Some coaches have their scheme set in stone and stubbornly expect whoever is on the roster to fit in seamlessly, and if he doesn't, it's all on the player. Sometimes you need to cater to the player's needs.
Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by thl408:
Incomplete to VD, the intermediate route. The defender on VD has outside leverage and defeats VD's Corner route, making it a very tough throw. The point of this play is more high-low, flooding of one side of the field.

Notice the wide open Niner on the other side near the 10 yd line.

he was open because the defender left his zone to follow where Kap threw the ball...
Originally posted by thl408:
First play of the 2nd Quarter.
3rd & 14
Boldin and Patton are running the Follow concept. This is similar to Drive except the in the Follow concept, the outer WR runs an In route and the inner WR runs the drag route. For Drive, the outer WR runs the Drag route.
The drag is supposed to flash across the faces of the LBs so that a passing lane can be found by the In route.
Versus Cover 4


Boldin will flash across Orange LB's face and move orange.


Patton finds the passing lane. Kap targeting Patton.


The throw is too high and Patton can't reach it. Not sure why Kap air mails the throw.






Kaepernick waited too long to pull the trigger, the ball should have been there just as he was breaking across. A few seconds late and obviously overthrown. Things that he will have to continue to work on.
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