Minnesota Vikings, week 1 coaches film analysis

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Kap and Hyde were both forged in that formation. Also, I think Kap is going to rack up the running yardage this year. I am thinking that 700-800 yds is attainable?

I mentioned that just a few post ago. Thl and were talking about that extreme gun/pistol bias and he mentioned the same thing about hyde and his college days. I love it as well, puts two very important players in a confortable position. Smart coaching IMO.

Also, Gore liked running out of the I with a FB, which meant the QB will be under center. Hyde never ran with a FB out of the I formation in college, or with a FB at all for that matter, but he is now. We saw a lot of Vance in the backfield, and I don't think I saw Miller that often. Not sure if that is just specific to this game.

What's interesting about what you wrote is that not only was it not familiar to our eyes but mostly likely not familiar to Pittsburgh either. Also, We showed so little last week that we could come out with a COMPLETELY new game plan this week.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
What's interesting about what you wrote is that not only was it not familiar to our eyes but mostly likely not familiar to Pittsburgh either. Also, We showed so little last week that we could come out with a COMPLETELY new game plan this week.

I have a feeling that's going to happen. Will be hilarious if the Steelers gameplan heavily to stop our 3 TE set, and we hit them with something completely different.

But I like what Steve Logan said earlier about our passing concepts. The concepts remain the same, and the team will master them with repetition, but you can always disguise through different formations.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by thl408:

Incomplete to VD, the intermediate route. The defender on VD has outside leverage and defeats VD's Corner route, making it a very tough throw. The point of this play is more high-low, flooding of one side of the field.

Notice the wide open Niner on the other side near the 10 yd line.

he was open because the defender left his zone to follow where Kap threw the ball...

The LB literally leans toward the flat right before Kap throws it. He had Bush covered.

that tartt sack was a bowman call. he changed the call at the last moment and told tartt to rush.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
that tartt sack was a bowman call. he changed the call at the last moment and told tartt to rush.

Quarterback of the defense.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

that tartt sack was a bowman call. he changed the call at the last moment and told tartt to rush.

Quarterback of the defense.

It was so great seeing him out there again.....despite all of our losses, we finally felt WHOLE again.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
that tartt sack was a bowman call. he changed the call at the last moment and told tartt to rush.

Quarterback of the defense.

completely unselfish play. he said he saw the attention was being given to him so he let tartt go unblocked to get the sack. didn't matter who got the stats, it mattered who had the best chance to make the play.

later when bathea finished the sack they both were completely happy to share a half of a sack.

and later he congratulated tank on his.

wilhoite is on the field stops bowman and says man you are really playing great dog.

a couple of 49ers tackle someone at the same time and then they both start laughing.

that is fun. that's what football is supposed to be

This was the first game in a long time that I've seen Kaep scrambled out of the pocket on some, not necessarily looking to run, but looking downfield to connect with his receivers. He's improving in this area and it's only his first game of the year. He could easily run it himself for positive yards, but the decision to get his other guys involved, it shows maturity in the offense.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Another thing is we were in gun or pistol 90% of the snaps. That's the highest percentage of gun/pistol snaps we've used, even going back to the late 2012 run.

Very cool. Big fan of the gun/pistol for Kap, and the play-action off the stretch zone is perfect for him. Really liked the gameplan and I hope we see continued success with this approach.

Kap and Hyde were both forged in that formation. Also, I think Kap is going to rack up the running yardage this year. I am thinking that 700-800 yds is attainable?

45 yards over 16 games gives you 720. Kap can get 45 yards a game easily depending on how teams play us.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This was the first game in a long time that I've seen Kaep scrambled out of the pocket on some, not necessarily looking to run, but looking downfield to connect with his receivers. He's improving in this area and it's only his first game of the year. He could easily run it himself for positive yards, but the decision to get his other guys involved, it shows maturity in the offense.

Yup. I haven't seen us run so many bootlegs since Shanahan was calling plays in '94 with Steve.

Maybe this should go in the Kap thread, but in watching the animated gifs of the passing plays, it sure seems like Kap was "bouncing" more in the pocket as he went through his progressions. My impression was that in the past he would drop back and just sort of shuffle his feet a bit to line up his body for a throw and rely a lot on his upper body to power his throws. That "bounciness" seemed to help him position his body better and to slide around in the pocket better.


I also want to say that I agree with jonesadrian about the players seeming to have a lot more fun playing. I think Harbaugh was a good coach in many ways but I had felt for quite awhile - especially last year - that the players just weren't having enough fun and their play suffered a bit because of it.

And I also say that I really appreciate the hard work that goes into the excellent analysis that has been provided in this thread. (I wonder how many other team's fan forums are fortunate enough to be blessed with such goodness.) These threads are definitely my favorites.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This was the first game in a long time that I've seen Kaep scrambled out of the pocket on some, not necessarily looking to run, but looking downfield to connect with his receivers. He's improving in this area and it's only his first game of the year. He could easily run it himself for positive yards, but the decision to get his other guys involved, it shows maturity in the offense.

Yup. I haven't seen us run so many bootlegs since Shanahan was calling plays in '94 with Steve.

I got a bit emotional when I thought I saw Kaep started to run during the game, but then, he wasn't pulling it down to run, but stepping up in the pocket to deliver the ball. Finding guys downfield while moving around, with spaces in front of him he could've run it.

I think he's 'getting it' like Steve Young finally got it over his propensity to run.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This was the first game in a long time that I've seen Kaep scrambled out of the pocket on some, not necessarily looking to run, but looking downfield to connect with his receivers. He's improving in this area and it's only his first game of the year. He could easily run it himself for positive yards, but the decision to get his other guys involved, it shows maturity in the offense.

Yup. I haven't seen us run so many bootlegs since Shanahan was calling plays in '94 with Steve.

I got a bit emotional when I thought I saw Kaep started to run during the game, but then, he wasn't pulling it down to run, but stepping up in the pocket to deliver the ball. Finding guys downfield while moving around, with spaces in front of him he could've run it.

I think he's 'getting it' like Steve Young finally got it over his propensity to run.

Haha me too. Had a huge grin on my face when he stepped up in the pocket and delivered the football instead of running. 2 instances really come to mind, one was a big 3rd & 14 conversion to Vernon, and the other I think was to Boldin.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

This was the first game in a long time that I've seen Kaep scrambled out of the pocket on some, not necessarily looking to run, but looking downfield to connect with his receivers. He's improving in this area and it's only his first game of the year. He could easily run it himself for positive yards, but the decision to get his other guys involved, it shows maturity in the offense.

Yup. I haven't seen us run so many bootlegs since Shanahan was calling plays in '94 with Steve.

I got a bit emotional when I thought I saw Kaep started to run during the game, but then, he wasn't pulling it down to run, but stepping up in the pocket to deliver the ball. Finding guys downfield while moving around, with spaces in front of him he could've run it.

I think he's 'getting it' like Steve Young finally got it over his propensity to run.

I also love for a QB that "can't read a defense"......he sure seems to spend an awful lot of time reading a defense

Here, we again show a pressure heavy front. However, we're only going to rush 3....

We're in straight man coverage with 2 safeties helping mid and Tartt is going to take off like a rocket back, very deep. So, it's not cover 2-man, it's like a cover 1-man with 2 underneath lurkers - but not in the middle....


At the snap, Bow fakes a blitz and then backs off to eye Peterson to make sure he doesn't sneak out of the backfield(Peterson stays in to block the whole time).
Tartt fires back and everyone else is in man-coverage.



Bethea and Reid just sit, not taking any more depth, ready to pounce on any throw the QB makes. Tartt, meanwhile is eyeing the seam route and flying downfield.


More of the same, but, by now, Tank has started to beat his man in pass rush. It's funny too, the C, RG and RB all watch Bow to make sure he's not coming on a blitz haha.



You see how Bethea and Reid are able to just sit and lurk to help with any throws the QB might make


Because of all the help they know they have, the coverage guys are able to lock down all the receivers.


Every receiver is still locked down.


The Qb is forced to run around and runs into his own RT and gets sacked - that's a coverage sack if I've ever seen one. I also highlighted how far Tartt ran back on that play, 33 yards... It's why the defense is so odd, by the end of the play, he's the deepest man on the field after starting almost on the LOS.
Johnny as crazy as this sounds, could that have been a variation of Tampa 2?