Minnesota Vikings, week 1 coaches film analysis

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
is it me or VD took a weird (bad) angle after the catch ?
seems to me on almost all his catches he couldve gotten more YAC

VD is just f**king weird in general.

What I was really impressed with is this coaching staff being Able too make halftime adjustments and this team having that killer instinct. Many games last year we would start fast and fall to sleep in the second half.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:


LOL....Why is that fool still in a 3 point stance?

what the f**k is going on here

bump? someone explain.

I believe he was getting up after being on the ground after blocking/engaging the rushing 49er

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Kap still misses easy throws though despite flashes of excellence and progress. like the missed throw to Boldin. needs consistency. and he throws off his back foot still

65% completion.
he won't make every single throw. if you complete 65% of them you're kinda doing your part.

what did Steve Logan talk about? completion percentage. im not saying dont buy into it but I'm saying he needs to be more consistent. the miss to Boldin was inexcusable.

he was very consistent that's the point. if he wasn't he wouldn't have completed 65% of his passes.
we didn't take many deep shots this week. this was a controlled passing week because the circumstances dictated it.
bush went down so hyde got more carries along with them not being able to stop it so this coaching staff went with what was working. when we needed big plays when we were behind on down and distance, he made those throws for big gains. to move the chains. those are the ones that count.
the main thing we need to do is stop committing holding penalties. if we stop that, we would move the ball all game long. those are the things that stall drives.
this is not me saying kap is perfect. this is me saying he "missed some throws" is kinda a cop out imo. every qb who played sunday missed some throws. how did he engineer the offense? was he in control in the pocket? go through progressions? make the right decisions more times than not? protect the ball? make big plays when we needed them?

he missed an easy throw. it was one that counted on 3rd & goal for a would-be TD too. stop looking into completion percentage so much. if you can't handle any constructive criticism of Kap then stop talking replying to me. i'm one of the biggest Kap fans on this board. Kap is known for being inconsistent with his accuracy. footwork gets sloppy. you could say footwork has DEFINITELY improved. just needs consistency with that.

im not looking into as the crutch. it just doesn't support the argument of being inconsistent in this game.
he missed the throw. i agree.
i never said he was perfect or close to perfect but i find it too many times vague criticism to be irritating. and im not even directing that at you specifically.
if he doesn't do his job there is a play by play breakdown from posters pointing out every mistake. when he has a game like this..its vague and they're gone
its the difference between the kap thread jumping 3 pages in a week and 50.
so im not coming at you specifically.
i just wish there was a week he wouldn't get nitpicked.
big headline on my home page said the 49ers managed to hide kap. lol
he can't win.

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
im not looking into as the crutch. it just doesn't support the argument of being inconsistent in this game.
he missed the throw. i agree.
i never said he was perfect or close to perfect but i find it too many times vague criticism to be irritating. and im not even directing that at you specifically.
if he doesn't do his job there is a play by play breakdown from posters pointing out every mistake. when he has a game like this..its vague and they're gone
its the difference between the kap thread jumping 3 pages in a week and 50.
so im not coming at you specifically.
i just wish there was a week he wouldn't get nitpicked.
big headline on my home page said the 49ers managed to hide kap. lol
he can't win.

it's not a vague criticism. it's the kind of easy quick throw he's missed before. I am not nit-picking. there's been a ton of good stuff from Kap shown in this thread.just pointing out the type of throw he has to be more consistent at. Kap didn't even have great numbers. YPA wasn't that great 150~ passing yards, high completion % but even that is deceiving. what i'm getting at his performance looked better than what his numbers show.

Originally posted by captveg:
I believe he was getting up after being on the ground after blocking/engaging the rushing 49er

lol?

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by captveg:

I believe he was getting up after being on the ground after blocking/engaging the rushing 49er

lol?

Yeah, he's getting up after he got thrown down by Lynch. I thought the same thing when I looked at that pic once, "wtf, is that guy still in a 3 point stance?" Then realized he was just getting up in a very unusual way lol

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:


LOL....Why is that fool still in a 3 point stance?

what the f**k is going on here

bump? someone explain.

I believe he was getting up after being on the ground after blocking/engaging the rushing 49er

looks like the dude is taking a dump

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Here, we again show a pressure heavy front. However, we're only going to rush 3....

We're in straight man coverage with 2 safeties helping mid and Tartt is going to take off like a rocket back, very deep. So, it's not cover 2-man, it's like a cover 1-man with 2 underneath lurkers - but not in the middle....


At the snap, Bow fakes a blitz and then backs off to eye Peterson to make sure he doesn't sneak out of the backfield(Peterson stays in to block the whole time).
Tartt fires back and everyone else is in man-coverage.



Bethea and Reid just sit, not taking any more depth, ready to pounce on any throw the QB makes. Tartt, meanwhile is eyeing the seam route and flying downfield.


More of the same, but, by now, Tank has started to beat his man in pass rush. It's funny too, the C, RG and RB all watch Bow to make sure he's not coming on a blitz haha.



You see how Bethea and Reid are able to just sit and lurk to help with any throws the QB might make


Because of all the help they know they have, the coverage guys are able to lock down all the receivers.


Every receiver is still locked down.


The Qb is forced to run around and runs into his own RT and gets sacked - that's a coverage sack if I've ever seen one. I also highlighted how far Tartt ran back on that play, 33 yards... It's why the defense is so odd, by the end of the play, he's the deepest man on the field after starting almost on the LOS.

Johnny as crazy as this sounds, could that have been a variation of Tampa 2?
I thought that at first, but, ti be a true Tampa 2, the safeties have to go with the deepest men on their side of the field, and the middle guy is there to help with deepest man in the middle of the field, Tartt goes way beyond that. It's why I've been confused as to what to call it, maybe a cover 12-man

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Kap still misses easy throws though despite flashes of excellence and progress. like the missed throw to Boldin. needs consistency. and he throws off his back foot still

65% completion.
he won't make every single throw. if you complete 65% of them you're kinda doing your part.

what did Steve Logan talk about? completion percentage. im not saying dont buy into it but I'm saying he needs to be more consistent. the miss to Boldin was inexcusable.

What do you want, kaep to be perfect and lose, or be less then perfect and win ?

am I yelling for Kap to be perfect? I'm simply pointing out a short quick layup throw that he has to hit. especially if it's 3rd & goal and we're about to score if he completes it. more consistency. it's constructive criticism. hard to believe I know

Originally posted by SoCold:

was just pointing out that Brady knows how to read the entire field on every play and knows where everyone is going to be. It's easy for him to find the best option on each play by reading the defense. Because he's worked so hard at it.

Tom Brady has also been in the league for 15 seasons...he should know how to do that! Goodness....

When Kap is 38, he'll be able to do the same.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
im not looking into as the crutch. it just doesn't support the argument of being inconsistent in this game.
he missed the throw. i agree.
i never said he was perfect or close to perfect but i find it too many times vague criticism to be irritating. and im not even directing that at you specifically.
if he doesn't do his job there is a play by play breakdown from posters pointing out every mistake. when he has a game like this..its vague and they're gone
its the difference between the kap thread jumping 3 pages in a week and 50.
so im not coming at you specifically.
i just wish there was a week he wouldn't get nitpicked.
big headline on my home page said the 49ers managed to hide kap. lol
he can't win.

it's not a vague criticism. it's the kind of easy quick throw he's missed before. I am not nit-picking. there's been a ton of good stuff from Kap shown in this thread.just pointing out the type of throw he has to be more consistent at. Kap didn't even have great numbers. YPA wasn't that great 150~ passing yards, high completion % but even that is deceiving. what i'm getting at his performance looked better than what his numbers show.

the type of game it shaped up to be he did what was needed. they couldn't stop the run game so why not dominate with the run and complete passes to move chains and get us out of holes.. then go back to the run and control the game? that just makes logical sense.

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by tsty:
As much as I like Hayne and I do, the emphasis has to be putting Mike Davis in the game for the #2 RB spot until Bush comes back. The ZBS is working so well that Mike Davis would register similar success to Hyde. If Mike looks good against Pittsburgh and he will, tough decisions will be made in regards to Hayne. I would also like to see White active instead of Patton, we keep giving him chances to shine but the undrafted kid is simply faster and more athletic than Patton. Brooks disappeared on the left side so we need to think about seeing Harold a little more going after the quarterback. I think Eddie is limited in rotation and I wonder what a Williams, Dorsey and Purcell frontline would look like for a few series even though Dial played a solid game. Lastly, I would like to see the center we traded from Baltimore to get up to speed and replace Martin as he was rated the best center in the preseason...............GO NINERS.

Lol Hyde is not a system running back. Ignoring his talent and saying Davis would be just as good is crazy.

Agreed, more so insisting that Davis should play while ignoring Haynes potential would be a huge mistake. Hayne is rb #2 all the way with Bush out.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Kap still misses easy throws though despite flashes of excellence and progress. like the missed throw to Boldin. needs consistency. and he throws off his back foot still

65% completion.
he won't make every single throw. if you complete 65% of them you're kinda doing your part.

what did Steve Logan talk about? completion percentage. im not saying dont buy into it but I'm saying he needs to be more consistent. the miss to Boldin was inexcusable.

What do you want, kaep to be perfect and lose, or be less then perfect and win ?

am I yelling for Kap to be perfect? I'm simply pointing out a short quick layup throw that he has to hit. especially if it's 3rd & goal and we're about to score if he completes it. more consistency. it's constructive criticism. hard to believe I know

Inexcusable is pretty harsh, it happens to the best of them

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by jonesadrian:

im not looking into as the crutch. it just doesn't support the argument of being inconsistent in this game.
he missed the throw. i agree.
i never said he was perfect or close to perfect but i find it too many times vague criticism to be irritating. and im not even directing that at you specifically.
if he doesn't do his job there is a play by play breakdown from posters pointing out every mistake. when he has a game like this..its vague and they're gone
its the difference between the kap thread jumping 3 pages in a week and 50.
so im not coming at you specifically.
i just wish there was a week he wouldn't get nitpicked.
big headline on my home page said the 49ers managed to hide kap. lol
he can't win.

it's not a vague criticism. it's the kind of easy quick throw he's missed before. I am not nit-picking. there's been a ton of good stuff from Kap shown in this thread.just pointing out the type of throw he has to be more consistent at. Kap didn't even have great numbers. YPA wasn't that great 150~ passing yards, high completion % but even that is deceiving. what i'm getting at his performance looked better than what his numbers show.

the type of game it shaped up to be he did what was needed. they couldn't stop the run game so why not dominate with the run and complete passes to move chains and get us out of holes.. then go back to the run and control the game? that just makes logical sense.

You wanted to keep reading so much into stats (completion %) that I'm just showing you if his other numbers shouldn't be read into based off our run game and doing what he needed to do, competition % is not a good measuring tool to backup a point.

I'm pretty much agreeing with you. But making the point that kap played better than what his average-looking stats showed. Including comp %