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Originally posted by thl408:
That's it for the 49er's passing attack. There were two more dropbacks for Kap in this game. A throw away to Torrey where Kap was pressured, and a RB swing screen to Hyde with one blocker out in front (Pears). This breakdown was to see what concepts were shown and this is the list I saw, but not limited to:

- Various Floods (three level high-low read)
- All Curls
- Shallow Cross
- Levels
- 4 Verticals
- Curl-Flat
- Follow
- Trail
- Slant-Flat

Thanks for breaking those down thl and Jd. I thought the quick screen pass to Torrey smith that Kap had to knock out of the air after it got deflected at the line had a chance to be a nice gain, and I also liked the double stack play we ran, chip kelly style, where I beilieve we ended up handing it off to Bush. I like that play call. Overall I thought Chryst called a good game. Going into the season he was one of my biggest concerns, but so far I love what the coaches have done for the offense
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Thanks for breaking those down thl and Jd. I thought the quick screen pass to Torrey smith that Kap had to knock out of the air after it got deflected at the line had a chance to be a nice gain, and I also liked the double stack play we ran, chip kelly style, where I beilieve we ended up handing it off to Bush. I like that play call. Overall I thought Chryst called a good game. Going into the season he was one of my biggest concerns, but so far I love what the coaches have done for the offense

This was an unknown and many, including me, just hoped it couldn't be any worse than Roman. I was vey pleased and hope they come up with a very different looking offense this weekend for a very different defense.
Awesome breakdown. Cant wait for more all season long
Come on, let´s keep this thread as awesome as it is, instead of turn it into another Kaep complain manifest
Originally posted by thl408:
This is an alignment that looked very Chip Kelly like. Used to give the QB a very clear read. Chip runs a lot of packaged plays from this type of formation. Here, I think this is to isolate a 6v6 situation in the box as the 49ers run a read-option play.


Unlike a traditional running play where the QB hands off to the RB and is not a threat to block or run, in the read-option, the QB is a threat and adds a +1 to the number of offensive players that factor into the run play. This makes it a 6 defenders versus 6 offensive players (not counting the RB). The DE (#1) is unblocked and is 'occupied' by the QB. The 5 OLmen are even up against the other 5 box defenders.


Boone blocks his man into Martin, which will cause Martin to fall and give up penetration.


Bush looking like a youngster here. +8 yards.

the Seahawks run this too. I've pm'd you specifically regarding this formation
Originally posted by thl408:
There's been some discussion about whether Bridgewater missed out on a possible TD pass near the end of the 1st quarter.

1Q 3rd & 8
3 Verticals versus Cover 3
49ers show Cover 0 (no safety), but at the snap, Reid will quickly drop to his spot as middle deep safety. The only routes are the three WRs. Both wide outs run a hitch and go. The slot WR runs a Go.
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Not sure why Bridgewater didn't pull the trigger.

I'm going with the assumption that progressions aren't the most rigid thing and that Bridgewater could have elected to change where he looked first. Would he have made the throw if his first read was to check what Reid did off the snap as opposed to seeing what happened on the right of the formation?
Chip Kelly's double stacks formation
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Sep 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM ]
Don't know why Bridgwater hesitated to throw that. The receiver may looked wide open, but for a deep throw across the field, he's only open between the 25-20yd line. Reid had made the adjustment. If Bridgwater had forced the throw when the receiver is inside the 20, Reid would definitely able to make a play on the ball.

Bridgwater's timing was off. Had he thrown the ball on time that's a sure TD. Reid wouldn't have a chance on the ball. Maybe make the tackle. At least he didn't forced it like other young qb often do in the NFL.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Sep 17, 2015 at 3:25 PM ]
Great jobs with the breakdowns guys as usual. So ready to see this team & staff's schemes for week 2!
Originally posted by thl408:

+11 to Torrey - the intermediate route on a 3 level flood concept.

I don't know how anyone could even defend this play...
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
+11 to Torrey - the intermediate route on a 3 level flood concept.

I don't know how anyone could even defend this play...

It's a very nice little play. Very good for mobile QB, because their legs act as another option. Here is a similar play from the 1994 play book.



Torrey took what was the "Y" route on the 1994 play and our TE ran the deeper route. Of course the 1994 is ran to the left because Steve was the QB.
Originally posted by thl408:
As soon as I read the first sentence of this post I was hoping you were mentioning this play. Really good instincts from Wilhoite here. This was my main critique of him, that he doesn't fill the hole quick enough, instead, allowing blockers to get to the second level. Here he is aggressive in meeting the FB in the hole.

This is the classic TED positon...the "defensive FB" blowing up the hole allowing Bowman free to do his thing. And this is an example of how Wilhoite is a better fit for this position than Borland would have been (he's a classic MIKE like Bowman).
[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 17, 2015 at 5:24 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the second play from scrimmage.

Outside Zone left
This play just further shows how badass Hyde was this night. Totally missed this when watching it live. The key block to watch is the combo block by Celek (#88, red) and Staley (orange) on the DE.


Combo block. Who will move to the second level?


Both of them leave the block to move to the second level. The DE is like, "where they go?"


That DE is too slow. Also, can't tackle Hyde up high like that.


Throw in a spin move on the CB. +8 yards

I'm a bit behind, but is the intent here they tell hyde that he has to beat that DE? and a RB vs DE should never be a problem?
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Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the second play from scrimmage.

Outside Zone left
This play just further shows how badass Hyde was this night. Totally missed this when watching it live. The key block to watch is the combo block by Celek (#88, red) and Staley (orange) on the DE.


Combo block. Who will move to the second level?


Both of them leave the block to move to the second level. The DE is like, "where they go?"


That DE is too slow. Also, can't tackle Hyde up high like that.


Throw in a spin move on the CB. +8 yards

I'm a bit behind, but is the intent here they tell hyde that he has to beat that DE? and a RB vs DE should never be a problem?

It's a mistake for both Celek and Staley to leave the DE. Only one of them should be moving on to the second level. If I had to guess, I think Staley is the one that should keep blocking that DE while Celek moves on. You can see that when Celek moves on, he identifies his block and gets to it.
Martin moves to the second level and gently touches (shown above) the player he should nail. If Martin nails him, which he should have done, then Staley has no one to block. Which is okay because Staley should have stayed with the DE (blue).
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Throughout the offseason, we talked about how zone blocking OLmen need agility and quick feet. We also talked about how Staley was the one player no one worried about making the adjustment to a predominantly zone blocking scheme. Here is a play that puts Staley's agility and footwork on display.
2Q 1st & 10
Outside zone left.
Staley will look to execute a 'reach block' on the DE. What makes it doubly hard is how wide the DE is aligned.


At the snap, Staley explodes to his left.


The yellow line is pointing to Staley's left foot, which is now on the outside of the DE.


Staley pivots around and has now won the positioning battle on the DE.


Staley is able to seal off the DE from pursuing to the outside. Now it's 2v2 (red) on the edge (VD + Miller).


+12 yards. Staley's perfect reach block allows the Hyde to gain the edge.
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