Minnesota Vikings, week 1 coaches film analysis

Originally posted by SoCold:
Good players will look at tape like this and learn from it. Do you think Tom Brady was born great?

I'm not dogging on Kap he made some great plays. I also see him do so dumb things.

Tom Brady started off as a game manager.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by JDMathews49ers:

Quick observation. No matter what, some of you guys will find a way to criticize Kap on every play. "Brady would know in 1.5 seconds that it's not open to the left and hit the RB to the right." "If he takes off to the right and let the RB be the lead blocker it's a TD." For heavens sake, Kap can't win on the webzone. We're about 4 or 5 plays into this thread and folks are harking on "what ifs" already. Some of you guys will find a way to take the joy out of johnnydel's and thl408's hard work.

Good players will look at tape like this and learn from it. Do you think Tom Brady was born great?

I'm not dogging on Kap he made some great plays. I also see him do so dumb things.

Tom Brady was at The Catch, does that count?

And brady said to himself "I want to have that someday, a winning play I will be remembered for." And now he has "the kick", " "the interception" and all of the " * gates". Face it tommy boy, you'll always be 2nd fiddle to Joe and Giselle.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
THe D played well but Bridgewater played like dookie also. Big Ben gon' hit that.

A great defensive plan will make any QB look like crap.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

THe D played well but Bridgewater played like dookie also. Big Ben gon' hit that.

A great defensive plan will make any QB look like crap.

People always trying to minimize the performance of our players. It's not that our players played well, it's that the Vikings played bad...

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Good players will look at tape like this and learn from it. Do you think Tom Brady was born great?

I'm not dogging on Kap he made some great plays. I also see him do so dumb things.

Tom Brady started off as a game manager.

was just pointing out that Brady knows how to read the entire field on every play and knows where everyone is going to be. It's easy for him to find the best option on each play by reading the defense. Because he's worked so hard at it.

Originally posted by SoCold:

that's part of my point. Kap stares down his receivers from time to time. He looked left the entire time. My point is when he sees the DB turn his hips he should know throwing it left is not the best option. There's only 1 other defend to the right. If he looks right he has the option to run or try a pass to the RB.

so

Look left the entire time and throw the ball away because there is no safe play to the left.

or

Check out the other side of the field to see there are 2 decent options over there.

There are many options on every play. It's about finding the best ones.

Left was concept side, it was a sail concept. Usually in a sail concept the primary is the sail/corner route that VD ran. Kap had his primary read with man coverage and it was VD. Personally I'm fine with him taking that chance. VD could have helped him a bit by fanning out his route as that's usually an adjustment vs man coverage.

would you guys rather I said Joe Montana cause he used to read defenses the same way Tom does.

geez

Kap isn't great yet because he doesn't see the entire field. When he does he could be unreal.

I pretty much agree on all fronts. Here is my break down.

Offense looked sharper at all aspects. Technique at every level looked very good. Huge improvements across the board. Especially CK's pocket presence. You could actually see him going through his progressions and making good choices. There were many times where in years past he would have run first, but his new found patience resulted in much better offense. The offense creativity and packages looked excellent as well. Vikes d looked confused all night.

Defense! What fall off? This is he best the d has looked in years. They looked fast, they blitzed just about all night and disguised everything so well. I love all the man d we played. Secondary looked fantastic.

After watching the steeler game I think the Niners are going to rock the steelers. The steeler d is very bad, especially against te's. With our 3 te sets and VD split out in the slot the steelers don't have a chance.

As far as d goes against the steelers, I think we dominate this game if we stay aggressive and blitz. Steelers o line is in shambles. We just need to contain Bryant with creative combo coverage and force some Turnovers.

Would anyone have predicted the Niners starting 2-0 and possible leading the division with Seattle already losing a game to the Rams. Amazing! Niners playing at home for a SB!!!!!

And just to add more smiles to everyone's face imagine the draft we are set to have next year to add to this team with all the comp picks.

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by thl408:

Incomplete to VD, the intermediate route. The defender on VD has outside leverage and defeats VD's Corner route, making it a very tough throw. The point of this play is more high-low, flooding of one side of the field.

Notice the wide open Niner on the other side near the 10 yd line.

He already pointed out the RB open in the right flat and commented how the pressure may have forced his throw

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by SoCold:
Good players will look at tape like this and learn from it. Do you think Tom Brady was born great?

I'm not dogging on Kap he made some great plays. I also see him do so dumb things.

Tom Brady started off as a game manager.

was just pointing out that Brady knows how to read the entire field on every play and knows where everyone is going to be. It's easy for him to find the best option on each play by reading the defense. Because he's worked so hard at it.

Brady's also been in the same system for his entire career with the GOAT coach. Hell, Matt Cassell took them to 11-5.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Good players will look at tape like this and learn from it. Do you think Tom Brady was born great?

I'm not dogging on Kap he made some great plays. I also see him do so dumb things.

Tom Brady started off as a game manager.

was just pointing out that Brady knows how to read the entire field on every play and knows where everyone is going to be. It's easy for him to find the best option on each play by reading the defense. Because he's worked so hard at it.

Brady's also been in the same system for his entire career with the GOAT coach. Hell, Matt Cassell took them to 11-5.

And Mallet....

wtf is wrong with you people?
I'm not comparing Tom Brady to Kap.

I'm saying if Kap learns how to read the entire field like a great QB he could be incredible.

damn you guys lol
this is a thread about breaking down plays, please get off of Tom Brady's nuts.

This Coaching staff is on the right track with Kap - teach him to be a better pocket passer SLOWLY. Don't call 40 5 - 7 step drops in a game and expect him to have success all at once. That only allows the D to pin their ears back and rush a guy trying to learn how to be better in the pocket - not exactly a way to build confidence.

And I think Kap rose to the challenge. He wasn't Rodgers or Brees - but it would be silly to expect that over night.

WHAT HE DID SHOW ME WAS PROGRESS - Dilfer was right on this time, lol.

1. He kept his eyes downfield despite the rush
2. When he attacked the line of scrimmage - he kept the ball high and his eyes down field forcing the DBs stay back and honor the threat of him throwing. Then most importantly, he did throw successfully. Now that is on film for defenses to honor.
3. When he ran toward the sideline he didn't run full speed and throw at the sideline at the last second (A. Smith did this too, ughh) - he actually throttled down and was more poised to throw.
4. He scanned his progressions with HITCH STEPS - THIS IS KEY. It is a vastly under-appreciated aspect of going through a progression. You can't drop back and stop your feet, scan with your head only, and THEN adjust your feet to throw. Combined with a long throwing motion, having to adjust your feet takes too long. The hitch steps keep your reads and body in sync to throw quick when you see the right throw.

All of these things to me are the little things you see from success QBs - and make us as fans subconsciously see the difference between a good and bad QB - a "real NFL" QB. He won't do it perfectly going forward - there will be breakdowns and regression. But if CK and the Coaches can get him some success with it, CK's confidence in that style of play will grow and become more habitual. THEN he becomes a truly dangerous QB.

Originally posted by HearstFan:
This Coaching staff is on the right track with Kap - teach him to be a better pocket passer SLOWLY. Don't call 40 5 - 7 step drops in a game and expect him to have success all at once. That only allows the D to pin their ears back and rush a guy trying to learn how to be better in the pocket - not exactly a way to build confidence.

And I think Kap rose to the challenge. He wasn't Rodgers or Brees - but it would be silly to expect that over night.

WHAT HE DID SHOW ME WAS PROGRESS - Dilfer was right on this time, lol.

1. He kept his eyes downfield despite the rush
2. When he attacked the line of scrimmage - he kept the ball high and his eyes down field forcing the DBs stay back and honor the threat of him throwing. Then most importantly, he did throw successfully. Now that is on film for defenses to honor.
3. When he ran toward the sideline he didn't run full speed and throw at the sideline at the last second (A. Smith did this too, ughh) - he actually throttled down and was more poised to throw.
4. He scanned his progressions with HITCH STEPS - THIS IS KEY. It is a vastly under-appreciated aspect of going through a progression. You can't drop back and stop your feet, scan with your head only, and THEN adjust your feet to throw. Combined with a long throwing motion, having to adjust your feet takes too long. The hitch steps keep your reads and body in sync to throw quick when you see the right throw.

All of these things to me are the little things you see from success QBs - and make us as fans subconsciously see the difference between a good and bad QB - a "real NFL" QB. He won't do it perfectly going forward - there will be breakdowns and regression. But if CK and the Coaches can get him some success with it, CK's confidence in that style of play will grow and become more habitual. THEN he becomes a truly dangerous QB.

outstanding post

Excellent and i appreciate your analysis!