Minnesota Vikings, week 1 coaches film analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb-rDeVxBH8

this is the link to watch the game on youtube, not sure how long it'll be up, but its great for the ones that missed the game or portions of the game. I was at work so i didn't get to see everything.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

The biggest difference between a "sail" concept and a "flood" concept is, the mid level route is running a deep/mid square out on the flood and on the "sail" the mid route is running a corner route. Sorta splitting hairs, but, I do believe it's supposed to be more of a "flood" concept. I saw a lot of "flood" concepts during the game.

I think VD coulda helped the play a little bit by really squaring/fanning his route off a bit. Come to think of it, a sail kinda becomes more of a flood concept vs man.



Here is a 1995 Paul Hackett (then KC OC) example....shows that sail/corner route squaring off.

Here's another missed opportunity on that first drive - this is NOT an indictment on Kap, more the O-line. If they give him enough time on this play, he hits Boldin for what's most likely a walk-in TD. This is the last offensive play of the first drive.



The Vikings show a heavy pressure look by "sugaring" the "A" gaps. They show more than they bring though, they only rush with 5 and we keep a TE in to block, so we should be able to block this 6vs5. We're just going to run a simple man beating short "snag" route with a wheel route coming off that. The primary here is Reggie Bush coming out of the backfield as that puts a LB on him having to work through the "snag" rub route. Good playcall, but the corner and the pressure make this play.


You see how boldin's "snag" route walls off the LB and how difficult it makes it for him to cover Bush out of the backfield. The corner reads this though and starts to slide over to help early.


Kap is in mid-windup, but the corner started sliding over before he went into his throwing motion. I've highlighted how far back the center of the pocket was pushed, Staley - officially gets the "pressure given up" on this play, but, really, it's the interior that is to blame. Tackles are taught, on a speed rush, to drive the defender past the QB, not stonewall them, use their speed against them and drive them upfield so the QB can step up into the pocket. However, since the pocket has been pushed back, Kap can't step up to what will be a wide open Boldin on the play.


You see how Boldin ended up wide open - now again, I know the defense is reacting to the throw, but, at the same point, they would've still been in this position as the corner on Boldin left his man to cover Bush, pre-throw.


The pass falls incomplete and you can even see Boldin throw his arms up like, "dang man, I was open".

comes from GOOD teaching from the coaching staff

Originally posted by KegBert:
Wilhoites play stood out to me as well. I wasn't very impressed by his play last year and was expecting him to be a weak spot in our defense but he pleasantly surprised me by playing fast, sound football. Looked really good out their next to Bow.

comes from GOOD teaching from the coaching staff

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
The biggest difference between a "sail" concept and a "flood" concept is, the mid level route is running a deep/mid square out on the flood and on the "sail" the mid route is running a corner route. Sorta splitting hairs, but, I do believe it's supposed to be more of a "flood" concept. I saw a lot of "flood" concepts during the game.

I think VD coulda helped the play a little bit by really squaring/fanning his route off a bit. Come to think of it, a sail kinda becomes more of a flood concept vs man.



Here is a 1995 Paul Hackett (then KC OC) example....shows that sail/corner route squaring off.

definitely, it's up to the QB to make the call at the LOS for the mid route to square off against man coverage, definitely more difficult to defend the square out than the corner from that angle as the defender will most likely be playing with an inside tech.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Good players will look at tape like this and learn from it. Do you think Tom Brady was born great?

I'm not dogging on Kap he made some great plays. I also see him do so dumb things.

Also see Brady do dumb things too. You think he always makes the right decision? He has played in the same exact offense his entire career and he was more of a game manager his first few seasons. He didnt even break 4,000 yards until his 6th year starting in the league. This is Kap's 3rd full year and plays in a power run system.

Matt Cassell stepped right in for Brady in that system and won 10 games so it's obvious that offensive system in NE is very QB friendly. Brady has just been able to master it over the last decade of being in it. Give Kap time, he will get it.

He has also outplayed a lot of the top QBs in their head to heads already

Originally posted by Niners816:
I figured Torrey Smith was demanding safety help. Im glad the film shows just that. His productivity isn't necessarily measured in catches, it's measured in dictating coverage and opening stuff up for other. It's gonna be nice to have an X WR with speed again.

yeah i noticed a lot of short-intermediate passes where the TE was open and the safeties were way up field. definitely noticed how far back the safeties were on some of the runs. That is called respect in the deep passing game...finally!!!!

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Nice write up. Looking forward to this thread every week.


P.S. Sucks to hear about Martin. Without looking at him specifically, I just assumed he did a good job, since our run game was tight and CK had plent of time in the pocket.

Martin was a 20 year old rookie and a 21 year old second year. I am high on Martin as I think he has the highest ceiling at the center position. I think with proper coaching he could become the pivot for years to come. (dare to dream)

Originally posted by jonnydel:
definitely, it's up to the QB to make the call at the LOS for the mid route to square off against man coverage, definitely more difficult to defend the square out than the corner from that angle as the defender will most likely be playing with an inside tech.

Seem to recall players talking about reading the defense together rather than rely on audibles...is this an example of where that might work as the team develops chemistry?

Originally posted by 9erred:
Martin was a 20 year old rookie and a 21 year old second year. I am high on Martin as I think he has the highest ceiling at the center position. I think with proper coaching he could become the pivot for years to come. (dare to dream)

Agree but hope Kilgore comes back when he can. Martin needs another year to further develop physically. Wonder how much time he spent at the 9ers facility during the off season...or what work outs he did.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's a play we got real lucky on. It's the Vikings 3rd offensive lay of the game 3rd and 10. 9:-- 1st QTR.



Here, Minn goes with 3 wide, so we bring in our 'nickel' package with Tartt. Here, there just going to create a hi/lo stretch on the outside. Tartt is trying to to feign a blitz.



Tartt's feign brings him right to the line at the snap. We're playing a cover 2-man on this play, Tartt's responsibility then, is the TE.


Tartt's biggest mistake is that he moves from the TE too quickly, he check the TE - who was chipping the DE, and assumes he's staying in to block. So, when the TE releases out into the pattern, Tartt doesn't see it, he's cluing in on the QB.



By the time Tartt realizes the TE has released into the pattern he has to fight through the crossing pattern.



You see here how open the TE got, Tartt is trying to recover, but, it leaves a large opening for the TE to pick up the first down. Either due to the pressure from Lynch, or just because Bridgewater got focused on the deep route, not sure, he chooses to throw the deep out route.


Bridgewater throws the ball incomplete. It's a big play early on because it leads to a missed field goal. If he hits the TE they either pick up the 1st down or have a shorter FG.

Either way, we got away with one here, but, it may have been because of the pressure. However, against more elite QB's, this would end up bad for us. Need to tighten up here - rookie mistake(to be expected from a rookie though).

on this play I thought Teddy made a good choice on the throw just executed poorly, by NFL definitions Wright comes open and I'd think a better QB like Rodgers hits the target

Originally posted by thl408:
2nd drive of the game.

This is a play that shows how Kap doesn't quite trust Torrey the way Flacco did. Understandable since they haven't built a rapport with one another (yet). Torrey will run a Stop 9 route. This is where he fakes a Go route (9 route), gets the CB's hips turned upfield because they are scared of his speed, then stop and turn around - similar to a Curl. Here are three examples of Flacco connecting with Torrey on Stop9 routes.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page4/#post56
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page4/#post58
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/181749-offseason-all22-film-study/page4/#post59

From one of the links above:


3rd & 7
Strongside has Levels concept. Torrey running a backside Stop9 route with the CB in press alignment - exactly like the three examples above. This is a 5 step concept.
Versus Cover 1 blitz


Shotgun snap (2 steps) + 3 step dropback = 5 steps. The ball needs to come out right now. Torrey is pushing off to gain separation as he comes to a stop. Compare this with how Flacco throws this route. Kap is looking at Torrey, but Kap is unsure if Torrey can gain separation.


Trust. Torrey will gain separation. CBs are scared of his speed. The window closed already. Kap scrambles.


The trust will come. Kap gets whacked but picks up the first down.

I saw this yesterday too, didn't really make the connection to Torrey's chemistry to Flacco but I also thought Kap should had made that throw.

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by thl408:
2nd & 13
This is still the first drive of the game. Another three level, High-Low read. This is a zone busting concept, but the yellow Corner route can win versus man coverage.
Versus Cover1


Incomplete to VD, the intermediate route. The defender on VD has outside leverage and defeats VD's Corner route, making it a very tough throw. The point of this play is more high-low, flooding of one side of the field.

Rb in the flat, 4th read I guess, is open. Pass rush coming from LDE though, appears to hurry decision.

I suspect we start targeting those this week?

Great work guys.

it's nitpicking but hopefully something Kap/coaches recognize on film, if he takes that extra second (which he had) to find Bush that's possibly a TD.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's another missed opportunity on that first drive - this is NOT an indictment on Kap, more the O-line. If they give him enough time on this play, he hits Boldin for what's most likely a walk-in TD. This is the last offensive play of the first drive.



The Vikings show a heavy pressure look by "sugaring" the "A" gaps. They show more than they bring though, they only rush with 5 and we keep a TE in to block, so we should be able to block this 6vs5. We're just going to run a simple man beating short "snag" route with a wheel route coming off that. The primary here is Reggie Bush coming out of the backfield as that puts a LB on him having to work through the "snag" rub route. Good playcall, but the corner and the pressure make this play.


You see how boldin's "snag" route walls off the LB and how difficult it makes it for him to cover Bush out of the backfield. The corner reads this though and starts to slide over to help early.


Kap is in mid-windup, but the corner started sliding over before he went into his throwing motion. I've highlighted how far back the center of the pocket was pushed, Staley - officially gets the "pressure given up" on this play, but, really, it's the interior that is to blame. Tackles are taught, on a speed rush, to drive the defender past the QB, not stonewall them, use their speed against them and drive them upfield so the QB can step up into the pocket. However, since the pocket has been pushed back, Kap can't step up to what will be a wide open Boldin on the play.


You see how Boldin ended up wide open - now again, I know the defense is reacting to the throw, but, at the same point, they would've still been in this position as the corner on Boldin left his man to cover Bush, pre-throw.


The pass falls incomplete and you can even see Boldin throw his arms up like, "dang man, I was open".

I have tremendous respect for the work you and thl do on here (sorry if I'm leaving others out) so I'm feeling good about myself that I'm recognizing some of the same things you guys are. What I didn't see is your point that the interior blocking is more to blame on this play than Staley so that's something to go back and look at.

forget the RB, the target here after lookin off the FS should be the WR on top of the screen running a 15 yard - IN.. the guy is playing him ONE on ONE!!