Game # 2- The Good, Bad and Ugly

Good:
- Kaepernick with over 380 yards of combined offense was sick. He played well just like last week.

- 3 receivers with 60+ yards.

- Deandrew White looked clean on his couple catches.

- No mistakes on special teams.

Bad:

- Penalties in crucial situations sucked.

- Run defense started softening up at the end.

- Mike Davis was INCREDIBLY unimpressive.

- Not enough touches for Hayne when Hyde was out. Give the man a chance ffs.

UGLY:

- Oline had its worst performance I've seen since we played the Rams last year. Holy god they were awful. Like, really f***ing awful. Christ.

- Secondary got punked. Straight up. No sugar coating it. They got punched in the mouth. I hope Mangini figures this mess out. Complete flip flop from last week.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
2013 the defense balled out and almost took us all the way until we ran into another stout defense.

Bowman was playing out of his mind that year.

That's fine, the actual stats tell a different story.


By any meaningful comparison the 2011 defense was in a league of its own. That defense was just insane, I remember the second half of the NFC Conference Championship and I don't know that I've ever seen a better four man rush. Justin, Ray, Aldon, all those guys were playing on a higher level.


Yards given up per game, yards per attempt, sacks....etc all regressed from that point on.

Originally posted by TTown9ers:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
I don't think they switched positions necessarily. Just trying to show different looks. In the end, it didn't matter. Ben had all day to throw, and the blitz looks put us at a disadvantage.

When we blitzed, it didn't get home. When we bluffed blitz, the safeties had a tough time retreating back into coverage.

Just not a good gameplan, but front 7 deserves most of the blame imo. No pressure on Ben AT ALL.

I disagree, there wasn't much pass rush, but Ben wasn't holding on to the ball on most of those big plays. Guys were just running wide open. Our secondary looks awful.

Brown was wide open on several of those deep passes. Unacceptable.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
2013 the defense balled out and almost took us all the way until we ran into another stout defense.

Bowman was playing out of his mind that year.

That's fine, the actual stats tell a different story.


By any meaningful comparison the 2011 defense was in a league of its own. That defense was just insane, I remember the second half of the NFC Conference Championship and I don't know that I've ever seen a better four man rush. Justin, Ray, Aldon, all those guys were playing on a higher level.


Yards given up per game, yards per attempt, sacks....etc all regressed from that point on.

Yeah 2011 was historically good. So yeah it would be hard to replicate that. But 2013 was damn good also. 2012 was good until the Smith bros went down. That unit and the run game carried the team.

Deandrew White had some nice catches today,hopefully him and Bruce Ellington can be some under the radar beasts in the future in the receiving game

I haven't seen oline play that bad in years

Originally posted by Escobar:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by Escobar:
so is Eric Reid now the SS and Bethea the FS now?

Jeff Deeny just posted a GIF of Reid at the LOS and then backing way the f**k up on that first big Bryant catch (one of many)
https://twitter.com/PFF_Jeff

Reid looked winded all game, and I noticed him on STs coverage

bad coaching

I don't think they switched positions necessarily. Just trying to show different looks. In the end, it didn't matter. Ben had all day to throw, and the blitz looks put us at a disadvantage.

When we blitzed, it didn't get home. When we bluffed blitz, the safeties had a tough time retreating back into coverage.

Just not a good gameplan, but front 7 deserves most of the blame imo. No pressure on Ben AT ALL.

but why can't we just run the prevent D that has worked against GB 4x in a row?

I know Fangio is gone, but Mangini and Tomsula were on that staff and saw how well that D worked

That would have been the better approach imo, but even if we did, we couldn't get a 4-man rush. When we beat GB 4x in a row, it was the 4 man pass rush + 7 man coverage that gave them fits.

Today people will only factor in the coverage, which was bad, but the front 7 was worse.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah 2011 was historically good. So yeah it would be hard to replicate that. But 2013 was damn good also. That unit carried the team.

It was a good unit, but not nearly as dominant in terms of game-changing plays, limiting teams on the ground as 2011, that was one of the best defenses I've ever seen, that defense pretty much shutdown everybody. They had seven or eight games of holding teams to 10 points or less. They gave up over 30 points once and that was to the Saints in the Wild Card round. They gave up over 100 total yards rushing, just three times.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Yeah 2011 was historically good. So yeah it would be hard to replicate that. But 2013 was damn good also. 2012 was good until the Smith bros went down. That unit and the run game carried the team.

Yeah, when Justin and Aldon got hurt in the second half of that New England game the defense went to hell.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah 2011 was historically good. So yeah it would be hard to replicate that. But 2013 was damn good also. That unit carried the team.

It was a good unit, but not nearly as dominant in terms of game-changing plays, limiting teams on the ground as 2011, that was one of the best defenses I've ever seen, that defense pretty much shutdown everybody. They had seven or eight games of holding teams to 10 points or less. They gave up over 30 points once and that was to the Saints in the Wild Card round. They gave up over 100 total yards rushing, just three times.

Yeah i know. It was historically good. Meaning it would have been hard to replicate that. We didn't give up a rushing TD until like week 14 or somthing. Can't knock 2012 or 2013 because they didn't statisticalltt measure to 2011. They were still a top 3 unit.

Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah 2011 was historically good. So yeah it would be hard to replicate that. But 2013 was damn good also. 2012 was good until the Smith bros went down. That unit and the run game carried the team.

Yeah, when Justin and Aldon got hurt in the second half of that New England game the defense went to hell.

Yes thats what I said.

Originally posted by dmax:

I haven't seen oline play that bad in years

Yeah and ive been saying this before the season started, make a trade for a vetran RT

Originally posted by Constantine:

Originally posted by dmax:
I haven't seen oline play that bad in years

Yeah and ive been saying this before the season started, make a trade for a vetran RT

What about the issue at center? It was horrible to watch

Originally posted by Constantine:

Originally posted by dmax:
I haven't seen oline play that bad in years

Yeah and ive been saying this before the season started, make a trade for a vetran RT

Pears had an especially bad game. He made it look like we didn't have a RT playing in the game.

I've only seem the second half and from my (admittedly) limited understanding...it didn't look that unbalanced. As I say I haven't seen the drubbing of the first half, but, the 2nd half wasn't that bad, outscoring them.

Both teams had there chances and frankly neither were that impressive - both looked rusty making too many mistakes. Repeat, I'm talking about the second half.