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Game # 2- The Good, Bad and Ugly

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Originally posted by Born49R:
I was shouting the same thing at the tv. I hate that lets bash it in mentality from coaches. As a h.s. j.v. I talked our QB into changing a play when the coach had called 2 straight plays like that and the defense was keying on our formation. He said I had better be right but there was no defender outside me and the RB trotted into the endzone with out getting touched. When I came off the field the coach wanted to know where the play came from and I just grinned and shrugged my shoulders . Now I realize pro football is very different but sometimes the bludgeon mentality just doesn't work.

Just look at what the Steelers did to us. They were on the goalline and 2 pt conversions running 5 wide, and made it look easy. That's how it's done.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Not an excuse but just part of the reason they got killed was that was a bit of unfair scheduling to make a west coast team play on Mon night, then go x-country to eastern TZ on a short week for a 10am kick vs team that's been off for 9 days.

Absurd scheduling for sure, especially with Pittsburgh already having 10 days off. It doesn't excuse the mental breakdowns we had today, but it does have an effect on guys coming out flat.

There is a reason West Coast teams have an abysmal record 10:00 am East Coast games. Now you make that team travel on a short week against a team with extra days rest. Absurd.


You'd think that if the scheduling computer spit that out then a human would pick up on it.
Lol Acker was listed as good with good coverage? ??? Dude got burnt like toast all game. Lol
Not mad, I knew we wouldn't beat Pittsburgh, I knew they would be too much, Brown is a beast, and Williams looked like a young back out there.

Boldin and Miller's drops hurt, other than the 75 yard TD to Torrey, which I missed, I dont think we went to him much. We should have attacked their secondary more, and earlier.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Born49R:
I was shouting the same thing at the tv. I hate that lets bash it in mentality from coaches. As a h.s. j.v. I talked our QB into changing a play when the coach had called 2 straight plays like that and the defense was keying on our formation. He said I had better be right but there was no defender outside me and the RB trotted into the endzone with out getting touched. When I came off the field the coach wanted to know where the play came from and I just grinned and shrugged my shoulders . Now I realize pro football is very different but sometimes the bludgeon mentality just doesn't work.

Just look at what the Steelers did to us. They were on the goalline and 2 pt conversions running 5 wide, and made it look easy. That's how it's done.

You mean you don't have an affinity for those play-limiting constant double-TE formations?
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Born49R:
I was shouting the same thing at the tv. I hate that lets bash it in mentality from coaches. As a h.s. j.v. I talked our QB into changing a play when the coach had called 2 straight plays like that and the defense was keying on our formation. He said I had better be right but there was no defender outside me and the RB trotted into the endzone with out getting touched. When I came off the field the coach wanted to know where the play came from and I just grinned and shrugged my shoulders . Now I realize pro football is very different but sometimes the bludgeon mentality just doesn't work.

Just look at what the Steelers did to us. They were on the goalline and 2 pt conversions running 5 wide, and made it look easy. That's how it's done.

You mean you don't have an affinity for those play-limiting constant double-TE formations?

So tired of it. It failed under Harbaugh, and will always fail. It's a different game now. You need to create space.
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Not an excuse but just part of the reason they got killed was that was a bit of unfair scheduling to make a west coast team play on Mon night, then go x-country to eastern TZ on a short week for a 10am kick vs team that's been off for 9 days.

Absurd scheduling for sure, especially with Pittsburgh already having 10 days off. It doesn't excuse the mental breakdowns we had today, but it does have an effect on guys coming out flat.

There is a reason West Coast teams have an abysmal record 10:00 am East Coast games. Now you make that team travel on a short week against a team with extra days rest. Absurd.


You'd think that if the scheduling computer spit that out then a human would pick up on it.

I have no issue playing Pittsburgh week 2, but it should have been a 4 PM EST start, or 1 PM PST start. It does seem unfair, but no matter who played Pittsburgh, it would be unfair, same for playing NE when they had 10 days rest.
I don't want to hear Fangio's name one more time. Last time I checked the Bears got torched today.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Born49R:
I was shouting the same thing at the tv. I hate that lets bash it in mentality from coaches. As a h.s. j.v. I talked our QB into changing a play when the coach had called 2 straight plays like that and the defense was keying on our formation. He said I had better be right but there was no defender outside me and the RB trotted into the endzone with out getting touched. When I came off the field the coach wanted to know where the play came from and I just grinned and shrugged my shoulders . Now I realize pro football is very different but sometimes the bludgeon mentality just doesn't work.

Just look at what the Steelers did to us. They were on the goalline and 2 pt conversions running 5 wide, and made it look easy. That's how it's done.

You mean you don't have an affinity for those play-limiting constant double-TE formations?

So tired of it. It failed under Harbaugh, and will always fail. It's a different game now. You need to create space.


Boom, create space. Bring in Steve Kerr.
Originally posted by Escobar:
also good:

Torrey Smith, 6, 120, 1

Kap connecting with him is the only positive from this game

Garbage time doesn't count. The Steelers obviously had already taken the foot off the pedal by then. Let's judge this offense when it mattered. That's 5 putrid quarters, 2 mediocre quarters, and 1 good quarter out of 8 played so far this year.
All that against a mediocre 7-9 team with a 2nd year QB and a Pittsburgh team that got blown out last week.
Originally posted by thl408:
I didn't know that. But when I see ABrown behind Acker and no one else in the picture, I put that on Acker. There was one play where Reid took a poor angle to double cover Brown, but that was one play. For the most part, Acker was getting owned left and right by Brown.

Ok, I just lost my response, I think.
Well we can agree to disagree on that. Almost all of the plays when Acker had Brown in man he was right in his shorts and the passes from Rburger were perfectly thrown. Hard to defend those.
I have to question a game plan that would leave a rookie on their best wr then. I don't understand letting their best player continually beat you deep. So either the game plan or the play by the veteran safeties was out of wack. To me, Reed had a terrible game and Bethea is just slow.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Not an excuse but just part of the reason they got killed was that was a bit of unfair scheduling to make a west coast team play on Mon night, then go x-country to eastern TZ on a short week for a 10am kick vs team that's been off for 9 days.

Absurd scheduling for sure, especially with Pittsburgh already having 10 days off. It doesn't excuse the mental breakdowns we had today, but it does have an effect on guys coming out flat.

There is a reason West Coast teams have an abysmal record 10:00 am East Coast games. Now you make that team travel on a short week against a team with extra days rest. Absurd.


You'd think that if the scheduling computer spit that out then a human would pick up on it.

I have no issue playing Pittsburgh week 2, but it should have been a 4 PM EST start, or 1 PM PST start. It does seem unfair, but no matter who played Pittsburgh, it would be unfair, same for playing NE when they had 10 days rest.


NE had to go on the road today, though, correct? But I agree, if Pitt is going to be home in this scenario, at the very least it needs to be a 4pm ET kick.
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Boom, create space. Bring in Steve Kerr.

Haha, I'd be all for it!!!!

Srsly tho, similar new age concepts in the NBA are happening in the NFL. High tempo, spacing, quick-strike offenses.
Originally posted by thl408:
I didn't know that. But when I see ABrown behind Acker and no one else in the picture, I put that on Acker. There was one play where Reid took a poor angle to double cover Brown, but that was one play. For the most part, Acker was getting owned left and right by Brown.

contradicton: he took a bad angle because he started off 4 yards from the line of scrimmage......
This to me is just one of those games in all of sports where one team can do no wrong and the other can do no right. Even our reliable vets looked like rookies playing half speed today and unsure of themselves.

Jekyll-and-Hyde week in the NFL.

Despite the blowout I have a feeling the Steelers just gave us a blue print to offense going forward.

Just praying McDonald, Hyde, Bell, etc. are OK.

Regroup, learn from this and kick the Cards ass next week. The coaches should learn a lot from this tape!
[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 20, 2015 at 4:22 PM ]
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